Mini-Mafia M1014

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#761 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:56 pm

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Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:31 pm
Gold, every detailed post of your reread that I bothered to read has you pointing at me being town, but then you say I look less townie. What's the disconnect?

On damo, I found him pretty useless last game, but he also ended up as an outed PR pretty quickly. I tend to read players being intentionally obtuse as a town tell, but that wanes a little when they know they're on the chopping block (he's been pretty clearly at least the second choice for a while). Another thing that makes me lean town a little bit was his readiness to clear gold when bozo pointed out that fake townslip. I think that's both evidence of a townie mindset and a pretty questionable choice to make as scum when it seems pretty certain his path to victory would come through a gold flip. The latter point also wanes a little when he seems to have dropped the townread.

I'm feeling better about Durga as town given the way today is going. Slightly more worried about Brian, but that can be sorted out tomorrow if it has to be.

I'm still not entertaining the possibility that bozo was town. It's hard not to question it, but even the little respect I have for bozo tells me that he wouldn't have been that fucking stupid, and all the signs point to it really being him. I think seriously considering the possibility is likely scum indicative, as scum worry about appearing to have more information than they should.

Gold's repeated reminders that we should have listened to him day one on HB don't resonate well, especially as he isn't even actively pushing that. I'm gonna call the big reread fully NAI, given that gold seems fairly hungry in general and probably needs a big effort to get out of dying today regardless of who he is. I still think his day 1 is the worst. ##VOTE gold
I mentioned "Ghug gives no reason for his reads, and while they make sense I don't see his history of engaging with the people to form those reads." Because the more I look the more I see that there's no real effort you show to how you reach your views. You ask the right questions, but never really truly push someone.

My reminders about being right on HB are meant merely to reflect that fact that HB is still learning the game and is making consistency errors and poor logical deductions. Therefore our ability to both read him and rely on him are compromised.

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#762 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:18 pm

Page 12

HB gives an excuse to Durga for their poor memory
Durga questions gold on what tunnels gold referred to in rant on p.11 (Poor wording choice on my part. Nobody was tunneling, it was just a defining conversation)
Gold votes damo because they didn't weigh in on HB. Cites distancing
Durga notes damos absence, defends looking into HB
Gold continues to argue to deal with HB.
HB defends, saying is not a liability to town.
Durga votes bozo because of lack of engagement and poor questions
Yoyo gives reads of town for ghug, gold, Moscow. Scum reads Durga. Null on HB. Wants more from damo, bozo, rdrivera
bozo defends his reaction test, questioning, and engagement. Says Yoyo is fishing for town reads and votes yoyo. Comments on previous HB conversation saying he doesn't believe HB conveniently forgot.
ghug jokes. Questions HB on how he views people pushing him for knowing scum partners (the only people really doing this are bozo and Durga)
rdrivera says Yoyo had decent reads, acted towny.
damo says HB "slip" is lazytown or scumfakery. Continues to townread HB. Wants to kill gold or Yoyo .
HB latches on to rdrivera's comment on Yoyo's timing of posting reads when pressure on him had evaporated.

Summary: I think if we don't win the game here today, these discussions around HB (take collectively) are something to look back on because everyone commented on it. Other things. Pressure started popping up on damo here and was ignored completely. ghug mainly jokes and overblows the number of people questioning HB on his previous game line of questioning. This page is kinda cementing for me that bozo was not town as well.

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#763 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:57 pm

I can’t believe the amount of work you’ve put into this. I’ll feel bad about the kill if it does go that way.

You might be on to something about my play in the future. Stay out of the way, don’t be a distraction, think before posting.

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#764 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:58 pm

##vote gold

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#765 Post by Durga » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:59 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:59 pm
Durga wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:34 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:46 pm
Bozo is not a good wagon.

I'm still waiting on the Yoyo wagon to see what's going to happen.

Obviously my self-vote was a joke you incompetent fools.
Hold on - goldie said this PAGES AFTER I posted the thing that apparently made goldie realize that yoyo was PR
I've explained this Durga. I thought he could be PR. Was doing a test to see if he'd come back at EOD and lurk. Which is what he did. This post is me blatantly saying that I'm doing a test
I don't get the test, and I don't get how it has something to do with his wagon as opposed to him

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#766 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:02 pm

Scum would come back and post immediately if they saw they were top wagon.

PR would wait until the last minute to claim.

Yoyo was online for a solid 10 minutes before he posted, just watching.

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#767 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:03 pm

And then when yoyo posted and did not claim, I voted for him

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#768 Post by Durga » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:04 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:49 pm
Ok with ghug voting gold I'm abandoning the slight ghug/gold pairing possibility.

Gold has obviously worked hard today but I don't find it particularly AI. If you are town gold I'm sorry all your work has been in vain but I cannot move my vote. The MF post is just so convincing.

My only worry is that if I'm wrong HB will be the NK and whoever is scum out of ghug and durga will convince the other to vote me and we will lose. So it's kind of an all in gamble and my all in says gold is scum.

I should be on very close to EOD but prob not before.
I don't like this hiding behind a dead townie's reasoning thing you're doing. And why is HB being the nk gonna make a difference, it's not like he's defending you

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#769 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm

Well, I likely won't be online more because I've gotten a ton of looks from family today for being on the computer.

Maybe I would've been more productive if I had done ISOs, but I'm comfortable enough now knowing that bozo was scum to leave it to town on the last day to get the information needed.

ghug and damo's absence has been pretty damning, if you ask me.

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#770 Post by Durga » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm

I guess the important part Goldie, is how intense you avoided voting for bozo even when you supposedly thought yoyo was PR

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#771 Post by ghug » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:08 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm
Well, I likely won't be online more because I've gotten a ton of looks from family today for being on the computer.

Maybe I would've been more productive if I had done ISOs, but I'm comfortable enough now knowing that bozo was scum to leave it to town on the last day to get the information needed.

ghug and damo's absence has been pretty damning, if you ask me.
I reread say one night one, gold, out of desire to solve rather than desperation. I was around last night when nobody else was, and I'm here now. Do you have something you want to talk about?

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#772 Post by ghug » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:08 pm

Durga wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm
I guess the important part Goldie, is how intense you avoided voting for bozo even when you supposedly thought yoyo was PR

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#773 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:14 pm

Durga wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm
I guess the important part Goldie, is how intense you avoided voting for bozo even when you supposedly thought yoyo was PR
Maybe I was clouded in judgement because I don't like the "vote lurkers" policy, and bozo was a JOAT last game while not acting especially towny. Damo seemed a better play. I don't have an explanation that you'll find acceptable, I'm afraid.

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#774 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:16 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:08 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm
Well, I likely won't be online more because I've gotten a ton of looks from family today for being on the computer.

Maybe I would've been more productive if I had done ISOs, but I'm comfortable enough now knowing that bozo was scum to leave it to town on the last day to get the information needed.

ghug and damo's absence has been pretty damning, if you ask me.
I reread say one night one, gold, out of desire to solve rather than desperation. I was around last night when nobody else was, and I'm here now. Do you have something you want to talk about?

Do you think we're in lylo.

Do you have enough info to solve this tomorrow. Because unless we're in lylo, the game will not end.

I'm afraid I don't have time for much more defense or questioning. And I'm beginning to feel I rather wasted my time doing what I did

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#775 Post by ghug » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:18 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:16 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:08 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm
Well, I likely won't be online more because I've gotten a ton of looks from family today for being on the computer.

Maybe I would've been more productive if I had done ISOs, but I'm comfortable enough now knowing that bozo was scum to leave it to town on the last day to get the information needed.

ghug and damo's absence has been pretty damning, if you ask me.
I reread say one night one, gold, out of desire to solve rather than desperation. I was around last night when nobody else was, and I'm here now. Do you have something you want to talk about?

Do you think we're in lylo.

Do you have enough info to solve this tomorrow. Because unless we're in lylo, the game will not end.

I'm afraid I don't have time for much more defense or questioning. And I'm beginning to feel I rather wasted my time doing what I did
No.

I have all the info I'm going to have, realistically. I'm really hoping it's you or damo, cause I have a hard time imagining it justifying killing either of the other two over you two.

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#776 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:23 pm

I tend to agree with you because I think it's damo. But just in case,do a full re-read. HB can be pretty NAI

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#777 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:25 pm

@damo - I know you won't move your vote. But now, before the flip, who will you vote for tomorrow?

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#778 Post by Hellenic Riot » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:31 pm

Day Three Vote Count 2.0:

goldfinger0303 (3): damo666, ghug, Hamilton Brian
damo666 (2): Durga, goldfinger0303

Currently GOLDFINGER0303 is set to be daykilled.

You have 29 minutes remaining.

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#779 Post by ghug » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:40 pm

Fun EoD

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Re: Mini-Mafia M1014

#780 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:56 pm

Anticlimactic, for sure. Still not feeling 100% but I didn’t not have any especially fine-tuned counters.

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