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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:46 am
by Nanook
I don’t understand what that is either 🤷‍♀️

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:47 am
by Tom Bombadil
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:45 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:44 am
And if rivera is town, it sure seems like ghug could be scum testing the waters to see how plausible it is to line rdrivera up as a wagon. It could be a wagon to get some momentum, so it would be a logical choice for scum to pick
What if angry jaded rdrivera is theater and he's scum?
Then I'm wrong?

If you are asking specifically how it relates to ghug, then I would say ghug seems towny. But as I said, that seemed pretty organic bitterness from rdr

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:50 am
by BunnyGo
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:43 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:38 am


Let me ask you a question:



You're Aussie, right? Kiwi?
Nope. Why do you ask?
Time zone suspicions. But also I find they use the same language differently.

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:50 am
by bo_sox48
Being super angry and doing nothing with it never seems genuine to me but you do you man

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 am
by Tom Bombadil
Being "super angry" and jaded are two different things, and I think you are misconstruing me when you decided to change my words.

This quote is not "super angry"

"So, do you think scum are stupid and that's why we have seven dead townies until now. Brilliant logic."

Its sarcastic and frustrated in a way that feels natural for rdrivera. I would have been suspicious if he was actually super angry and said something like "you are such an idiot, we are losing this game and its your fault for being dense."

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 am
by Hamilton Brian
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:44 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:43 am
Nanook wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:29 am
Inb4 “nanook posted at night he must be scum!”
I don't like a lot of your style, but there might be something to it. Not for me, but if it works for you...

You're definitely not in my top 3 scumreads, but you're not totally town yet, either.

BTW, that list I made last night...crumple that sucker up and throw it in the fire. It's out-of-date.
What... what is this?
What's not to understand? There's a lot of how Nanook has come across in this game and I'm not crazy about it. There's also the laugh about him getting a post in at night when there was SO MUCH air time given to his not justifying sufficiently why he wouldn't post at night, and some contradictions in his rationale posts.

But, when they posted that they might be reacting in such a heavy way toward certain posters and that it was their reflection that indicated how they felt about them (scum/town), there's something to it.

Again, I am wholly mystified.

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:58 am
by Nanook
Idk if it’s just me but I do not understand at all what you’re trying to say there

Like not even a little bit

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:04 am
by BunnyGo
Is nobody scumreading Jamie after all this?

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:05 am
by bo_sox48
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 am
Being "super angry" and jaded are two different things, and I think you are misconstruing me when you decided to change my words.

This quote is not "super angry"

"So, do you think scum are stupid and that's why we have seven dead townies until now. Brilliant logic."

Its sarcastic and frustrated in a way that feels natural for rdrivera. I would have been suspicious if he was actually super angry and said something like "you are such an idiot, we are losing this game and its your fault for being dense."
You said angry and jaded, I said super angry and jaded. Super is my word, and I only used it after closely paraphrasing you once before. You need to loosen up a bit if you think I’m trying to spend multiple posts building up to misquote you as opposed to offering my own take on things.

To stick to the point, if you read his interactions with HR and quantify that against what at least I am accustomed to seeing out of quiet, cool rdrivera is’s super angry. It’s cool if we agree to disagree. It doesn’t feel natural to me and I think you’re wrong. That’s all I’m saying.

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:06 am
by Hamilton Brian
Nanook wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:58 am
Idk if it’s just me but I do not understand at all what you’re trying to say there

Like not even a little bit
Maybe get me when I'm sober. I have a hell of a time expressing myself at the best of times. I'll try again in the morning.

However, like a constant drum: EMC=Gold=Bunny. Hit those three, the other 2 will follow.

Now I sound like the guy who screamed out of the window in Network. Probably an outdated reference for you young ones.

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:06 am
by bo_sox48
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 am
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:44 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:43 am


I don't like a lot of your style, but there might be something to it. Not for me, but if it works for you...

You're definitely not in my top 3 scumreads, but you're not totally town yet, either.

BTW, that list I made last night...crumple that sucker up and throw it in the fire. It's out-of-date.
What... what is this?
What's not to understand? There's a lot of how Nanook has come across in this game and I'm not crazy about it. There's also the laugh about him getting a post in at night when there was SO MUCH air time given to his not justifying sufficiently why he wouldn't post at night, and some contradictions in his rationale posts.

But, when they posted that they might be reacting in such a heavy way toward certain posters and that it was their reflection that indicated how they felt about them (scum/town), there's something to it.

Again, I am wholly mystified.
Why did you choose to quote the post you did in order to express your wholly mystified-ness?

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:16 am
by Hamilton Brian
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:06 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 am
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:44 am


What... what is this?
What's not to understand? There's a lot of how Nanook has come across in this game and I'm not crazy about it. There's also the laugh about him getting a post in at night when there was SO MUCH air time given to his not justifying sufficiently why he wouldn't post at night, and some contradictions in his rationale posts.

But, when they posted that they might be reacting in such a heavy way toward certain posters and that it was their reflection that indicated how they felt about them (scum/town), there's something to it.

Again, I am wholly mystified.
Why did you choose to quote the post you did in order to express your wholly mystified-ness?
Flimsy on the keyboard?

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:29 am
by ghug
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:04 am
Is nobody scumreading Jamie after all this?
I am kinda sketched out by how absent he's been. Hopefully he'll undo that in the next few (real) days.

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:32 am
by goldfinger0303
My god I don't know why it took me so long to realize, but Nanooks "naked" votes are finance references. When you cover your position, you hedge it. He's saying it's an un-hedged vote.

Jesus I'm embarrassed it took me that long.

As for Hamilton's bizarre theory of a Bunny-emc-gold scumteam, please look at the actual context of the vote wagons and you'll see how much of a non-starter that is. And for TheFlyingBoat? Yeah he was a scumread of mine. I had a theory on scum lurking in lone wagons - which was true in most of my past games. Turns out it wasn't this time, that's on me.

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:07 am
by Nanook
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:32 am
My god I don't know why it took me so long to realize, but Nanooks "naked" votes are finance references. When you cover your position, you hedge it. He's saying it's an un-hedged vote.

Jesus I'm embarrassed it took me that long.

As for Hamilton's bizarre theory of a Bunny-emc-gold scumteam, please look at the actual context of the vote wagons and you'll see how much of a non-starter that is. And for TheFlyingBoat? Yeah he was a scumread of mine. I had a theory on scum lurking in lone wagons - which was true in most of my past games. Turns out it wasn't this time, that's on me.
I mean

That might be the origin, idk, the guy I picked it up from has a history in finance I think

AFAIK it just means “a vote without a case/justification attached at the time of vote.”

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:37 am
by damo666
@bo you asked me re rdr and HR

I think there could very well be theatre at play and they both are scum. I doubt they are both town.

Jamie's absence unusual. Maybe he has an excuse but we should monitor.

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:42 am
by Temasek22
RIP TFB some late movement it appears on the bot. Will quickly try and catch up brb

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:11 am
by BunnyGo
Temasek22 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:42 am
RIP TFB some late movement it appears on the bot. Will quickly try and catch up brb
https://tenor.com/view/blazing-saddles- ... if-5985933

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:49 am
by rdrivera2005
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:43 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:04 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:41 am


You sound smug
I am starting to think that a Ghug-HR-Tom scumteam is a possibility.
Thanks for answering literally everything ghug asked you and some things he didn't ask you. Can you answer me?
Can you point me to the question? Or at least the page? Or I will answer only in the afternoon as am a bit busy this morning to go search.

Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:55 am
by rdrivera2005
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 am
Being "super angry" and jaded are two different things, and I think you are misconstruing me when you decided to change my words.

This quote is not "super angry"

"So, do you think scum are stupid and that's why we have seven dead townies until now. Brilliant logic."

Its sarcastic and frustrated in a way that feels natural for rdrivera. I would have been suspicious if he was actually super angry and said something like "you are such an idiot, we are losing this game and its your fault for being dense."
You are right, I am not angry, I am frustrated. I tried my best to look obvtown yesterday when I had more town to play and people still call me scummy. I am still unable to push my reads as people only take seriously "slips" or big walls with a lot of words and quotes, which I can't do as I play almost 100% on my phone.