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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3761 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:36 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:34 pm
It's not, HB. Any wagon with less than 7 on it is not immune to a scum rush
Because we've been batting 1.000 all game anyway.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3762 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm

EMC's characterization of me is wrong and he's putting way too much stock in his mis-remembering of my spreadsheets.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3763 Post by ghug » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm

Y'all wanna hammer?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3764 Post by Ezio » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm

EMC ok cool. You townread Fox for meta reasons, which makes you less interested in that wagon. That's cool.

Can you please post your cases why scumread Jamiet/HR?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3765 Post by Ezio » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm

ghug wrote:
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Y'all wanna hammer?
Fuck you and fuck hammers.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3766 Post by ghug » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm
EMC's characterization of me is wrong and he's putting way too much stock in his mis-remembering of my spreadsheets.
Distance distance distance.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3767 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:38 pm

On Jamie:
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:29 am
Jamie has been more chill and laid back and less game-schemey so far, the former of which is good and NAI while the latter, not sure, maybe I missed something.
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:16 pm
Jamie is different this game but I haven't a clue whether it's due to his alignment or due to the fact that his period of sobriety is apparently over, lol
This sums up the largest doubt I have on my scumread. It's entirely possible that the shift in play comes down to just this, since the past two/three times he's undergone a change in his play, it correlated to his IRL habits.
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:54 pm
I think Jamie is possibly scum for lacking his usual tendency of question tunneling, and not broadening out. I think gold might've been town testing for something but his misinterpretation on D1 and subsequent info argument I find scummy as he isn't an inexperienced player by any regard and would know better than to genuinely peddle that as town lmao.
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Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:56 pm
Have you just ignored all Jamie's posts from tonight?
His scumread on you appears to be based off of me. I'm questioning why he hasn't bothered interacting with me more if he does scumread me so much lol
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ghug wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:56 pm
Jamie is scum for not tunneling and for not broadening out?

What misinterpretation on D1?
As in, some variations of town!Jamie share with bozo the characteristic of temporarily tunneling on a single player, then questioning them to hell and high water, and moving on to the next player that catches their attention. Usually by now Jamie should've gone through around four or five players, but this is gut recall and not checked with bot so take with large grain of salt. Bozo is a bit more flexible than Jamie in this regard, but general vibe stands.

He's been more focused on emotive reactions than game questioning which somewhat comes off as him intentionally playing as real as he can to his town self

Although, true, it can be explained by IRL circumstances, since his meta shifts almost always correlate strongly with that for him, but...

Misinterpretation as in mentioning 3P was intentional speculation. tbh I actually reclarified that to include 3P rather than just say "not!town vibes" specifically to set standard for players who haven't played with my terminology quirks lmao. That backfired.
e.m.c^42 wrote:
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e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:49 pm
But I guess I'll build on previous reads and make em more detailed
I have some reason to believe that Jamie's scumread and anger at me is played up to recall his town aggressiveness, and not all that genuine. He's mimicking Bungo's points, which he didn't really engage with when they were being made the first time around. If these are his actual thoughts why did he wait until now?

Objectively speaking I am not the most absent player this game, nor the more lurky-meta prone player, yet he doesn't get pissy at the others.

His scumread is valid enough in a general sense, considering it's based off of the logic that I've been, well, not here. However some parts don't really match up to what I know he knows of my meta. Activity is near NAI and I'm almost always calm. My reads are always soft and not absolute. These are pretty consistent things that I think anyone who's played more than a few games with me would know.
When he's scum, he plays up his emotional reactions for townreads, since it's easier than mimicking scumhunting. He prefers to channel genuine irritation at things instead, be it poor play or (I suspect this game) my flopping absence. I'm seeing more of his emotional reactions than any actual questioning or scumhunting.

He's asked me on my opinion of his HR read, which I did give, but apparently it came too late lmao. But that's about it on questioning.

Doesn't he usually extensively question his scumreads?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3768 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:38 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm
Y'all wanna hammer?
Your mom.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3769 Post by ghug » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:38 pm

Ezio wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm
Y'all wanna hammer?
Fuck you and fuck hammers.
The urge to end vote you right now is strong.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3770 Post by goldfinger0303 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:40 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm
EMC's characterization of me is wrong and he's putting way too much stock in his mis-remembering of my spreadsheets.
But he's ..town reading you?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3771 Post by ghug » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:41 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:40 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:37 pm
EMC's characterization of me is wrong and he's putting way too much stock in his mis-remembering of my spreadsheets.
But he's ..town reading you?
Dadadadadistance

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3772 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:42 pm

On HR:

Admittedly, weakest of all three, as his neutrality (which I previously townread him for) could just as easily be scum-induced rather than being level-headed town. So, I'm not sure.
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:48 pm
I kind of townread HR because of how he has been consistent in attempted objectivity when it would've been much easier as scum to just go with concensus.
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:19 pm
re: Jamie's case on HR. I can see it in the sense that his mild detachment-neutrality is scum-based rather than town, due to it not being as alignment indicative as other styles of play.

I don't think the fact that he didn't explicitly townread me until trying to save is scummy, as I didn't realise I townread rivera until it was close and the wagons were up.

I kind of do not read as much aggression in his posts as you are claiming, but perhaps that's just fault on me? Some parts have merit but overall he would be a third or fourth option vote for me atm.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3773 Post by Ezio » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:43 pm

Ok thanks EMC. Anything else you wanna tell us before EoD?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3774 Post by ghug » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:43 pm

Ezio wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:43 pm
Ok thanks EMC. Anything else you wanna tell us before EoD?
Did you give me your thoughts on bo?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3775 Post by ghug » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:44 pm

Emc if you're town, what's your plan for not losing the game in the next 15 minutes?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3776 Post by Ezio » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:44 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:43 pm
Ezio wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:43 pm
Ok thanks EMC. Anything else you wanna tell us before EoD?
Did you give me your thoughts on bo?
He's the towniest town who ever towned on this town.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3777 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:44 pm

EMC bringing some good information. I want to hear why they should be saved and what value they bring to getting a win for town.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3778 Post by Hellenic Riot » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:46 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:44 pm
EMC bringing some good information. I want to hear why they should be saved and what value they bring to getting a win for town.
He just scumread me for something he townread me for earlier. How on earth is that 'good information'?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3779 Post by Ezio » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:47 pm

EMC this is your last chance to save yourself. Time to pull a hail mary play.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3780 Post by ghug » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:48 pm

Ezio wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:44 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:43 pm
Ezio wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:43 pm
Ok thanks EMC. Anything else you wanna tell us before EoD?
Did you give me your thoughts on bo?
He's the towniest town who ever towned on this town.
You were supposed to say he's the worst.

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