Mafia 57 Matrix

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi YoyoyoyoyoyogoO

[Jamiet99uk]

I bet one low poster / sub is scum.

I think EMC is scum.

I think HR is scum and is now bussing EMC.

I suspect Goldfinger or Ghug is scum for their misdirection antics.

Foxcastle is bad and his main saving grace is Ghug pushing him.

[BismarckAlive]

I bet one low poster / sub is scum.

I think EMC is scum.

I think HR is scum and is now bussing EMC.

I suspect Goldfinger or Ghug is scum for their misdirection antics.

Foxcastle is bad and his main saving grace is Ghug pushing him.

I think EMC is Town, so scum HR voting him is PAR for course.
I don't think ghug is scum, but Goldie could be.
Foxcastle also could be.

[Jamiet99uk]

EMC, since you are here, have you read my case on HR?

What do you think of it?

Let me try to approach this from view where I don't scumread you and will get back to you on that.

HEY EMC, DID YOU GET BACK TO ME?

No you fucking did not. The above post was on Sunday evening, my time.

It is now early on Wednesday morning, my time.

EMC has not posted in about 50 hours now.

I am happy with my vote on him.

I repeat my D1 statement that he should have been banned from this game for his recent non-participations and modkills. This crap harms the game for everyone and it strikes me that EMC is a deeply selfish and narcissistic person for continuing to sign up when he can almost never participate to a reasonable extent.

I don't mean to be unkind but here we are and YET AGAIN he is a deadweight in this game for long periods (interspersed, I admit, with bouts of activity). This fact, combined with the apparent panic to save him on D1 and D3, makes him the best lynch for sure now.

If EMC is town, I challenge him to come out here, tell us clearly who his top scumreads are, and push one of them. All I've seen in six fucking days is a mild, hedgy, OMGUS scumread on me. That is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

EMC IF YOU THINK I'M SCUM, COME OUT HERE AND FIGHT ME.

I AM NOT SCUM, and you are NOT HELPING TOWN therefore you are HELPING SCUM WIN irrespective of your alignment, which I nonetheless conclude is SCUM, SCUM, SCUM.

[Jamiet99uk]

I declare here and now that unless EMC is handed a ban for the next game, I will ban him from the next game that I GM in.

He has harmed the experience of dozens of people across multiple games and it cannot be allowed to go on. I will personally see to it.

[ghug]

I bet one low poster / sub is scum.

I think EMC is scum.

I think HR is scum and is now bussing EMC.

I suspect Goldfinger or Ghug is scum for their misdirection antics.

Foxcastle is bad and his main saving grace is Ghug pushing him.

Seriously are there any "misdirection antics" besides my noting that I'd also joked about being scum?

[ghug]

FWIW I'm very happy with this day being Fox vs. emc.

[Jamiet99uk]

I bet one low poster / sub is scum.

I think EMC is scum.

I think HR is scum and is now bussing EMC.

I suspect Goldfinger or Ghug is scum for their misdirection antics.

Foxcastle is bad and his main saving grace is Ghug pushing him.

Seriously are there any "misdirection antics" besides my noting that I'd also joked about being scum?

I cannot now settle on a read on you because you swing between reasonable analysis and completely unhelpful, derailing shitposts. Your attitude is weird and I can't tell what your motivations are.

[BismarckAlive]

##vote Hellenic Riot

[ghug]

I bet one low poster / sub is scum.

I think EMC is scum.

I think HR is scum and is now bussing EMC.

I suspect Goldfinger or Ghug is scum for their misdirection antics.

Foxcastle is bad and his main saving grace is Ghug pushing him.

Seriously are there any "misdirection antics" besides my noting that I'd also joked about being scum?

I cannot now settle on a read on you because you swing between reasonable analysis and completely unhelpful, derailing shitposts. Your attitude is weird and I can't tell what your motivations are.

Have you ever known me to not shitpost?

I get that you don't like it, and normally a little disagreement there is fine, but you're the only person I strongly townread at this point, and we need to get this right five times in a row.

If you look past the shitposting, is there still significant reason to think I'm scum?

[BismarckAlive]

FWIW I'm very happy with this day being Fox vs. emc.

Fox vs HR I am cool with.

[goldfinger0303]

I'm not sure what my misdirection antics are either. I've just been trying to educate HB a little today.

Jamiet, ghug - you are my top town reads left alive. I think the three of us should decide one person to push, and stick together. If we are not mutually each others top town reads, work with your top two town reads and consolidate on one person.

There are five scum left. If we spread out on too many wagons, they can blitz at last second. We should make sure that's not possible. I currently am pretty comfortable on Fox.

I think bo/Ezio can also reasonable be considered town after the ship reveals - I think Nanook was off kilter in scumreading him, because scum were already hitting the ship hard before bo even came aboard, and didn't change tactics after. Perhaps we form a bloc with them as well.

I still think emc is unlikely to be scum, given the D1 and D3 histories.

I think there's likely scum in the yoyo/therul and temasek/peterlund spots. I would consider moving there as well.

[Jamiet99uk]

Seriously are there any "misdirection antics" besides my noting that I'd also joked about being scum?

I cannot now settle on a read on you because you swing between reasonable analysis and completely unhelpful, derailing shitposts. Your attitude is weird and I can't tell what your motivations are.

Have you ever known me to not shitpost?

I get that you don't like it, and normally a little disagreement there is fine, but you're the only person I strongly townread at this point, and we need to get this right five times in a row.

If you look past the shitposting, is there still significant reason to think I'm scum?

Why is it bothering you so much how I react to you?

I am not voting for you.

I am voting for a scumread, EMC, that you just said you were happy with as a wagon.

So let's allow that to play out, let's both shout at the low posters to pull their fucking socks up, and lets see what we can find in the remainder of today?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not sure what my misdirection antics are either. I've just been trying to educate HB a little today.

Jamiet, ghug - you are my top town reads left alive. I think the three of us should decide one person to push, and stick together. If we are not mutually each others top town reads, work with your top two town reads and consolidate on one person.

There are five scum left. If we spread out on too many wagons, they can blitz at last second. We should make sure that's not possible. I currently am pretty comfortable on Fox.

I think bo/Ezio can also reasonable be considered town after the ship reveals - I think Nanook was off kilter in scumreading him, because scum were already hitting the ship hard before bo even came aboard, and didn't change tactics after. Perhaps we form a bloc with them as well.

I still think emc is unlikely to be scum, given the D1 and D3 histories.

I think there's likely scum in the yoyo/therul and temasek/peterlund spots. I would consider moving there as well.

Tell me about Hellenic Riot.

I would move to him from EMC if you and Ghug do likewise.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not sure what my misdirection antics are either.

FWIW, this is because of you claiming scum.

It's shitty play and invites unhelpful WIFOM.

[ghug]

Jamie, I'm bothered because it's "we need to stick together time".

HR is probably my third choice for a wagon, maybe fourth behind Ezio. I'd be open to late consolidation on him, and agree that we should all be voting together, but I'd like there to remain multiple options early so that we can force people to actually voice opinions. We're not going to win this game with just the information we have already.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie, I'm bothered because it's "we need to stick together time".

HR is probably my third choice for a wagon, maybe fourth behind Ezio. I'd be open to late consolidation on him, and agree that we should all be voting together, but I'd like there to remain multiple options early so that we can force people to actually voice opinions. We're not going to win this game with just the information we have already.

I don't want to vote Ezio today. Of the subs I'd vote Yoyoyozo before Peterlund before Ezio.

My top choices are EMC or HR, Foxcastle third.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie, I'm bothered because it's "we need to stick together time".

BTW, I agree with this.

So if you want me to "stick together" with you, please don't purposefully antagonise me at crucial moments? Can you just restrain your inner asshole when it matters?

[ghug]

Jamie, I'm bothered because it's "we need to stick together time".

BTW, I agree with this.

So if you want me to "stick together" with you, please don't purposefully antagonise me at crucial moments? Can you just restrain your inner asshole when it matters?

My intent has not been to antagonize you. I brought up that I'd claimed scum because I disagreed with it as a reason to scumread Fox, even though I am in favor of scumreading Fox.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie, I'm bothered because it's "we need to stick together time".

BTW, I agree with this.

So if you want me to "stick together" with you, please don't purposefully antagonise me at crucial moments? Can you just restrain your inner asshole when it matters?

My intent has not been to antagonize you. I brought up that I'd claimed scum because I disagreed with it as a reason to scumread Fox, even though I am in favor of scumreading Fox.

At the moment I had decided to vote for Foxcastle, you decided to alert me to a reason not to trust you, a reason not to vote Foxcastle.

Great work.