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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3361 Post by Tom Bombadil » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:19 am

BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:04 am
13 left - 8 Town and 5 scum

5 Town as I see it:
Me
Tom
EMC
Ghug
Nanook

so, 5 scum and 3 Town in the rest.

I am about to start classes, so if I die tonight, I think right now the scum are:

HR
Goldie
HB
Bo
Fox

I will only ascertain some of the above when HR flips scum tomorrow, and if I remain plugged to the Matrix.

Bismarck is scum. He just picked the 5 most recent visible players people recently scumread so that he doesn’t have to contribute anything original.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3362 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:20 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:19 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:04 am
13 left - 8 Town and 5 scum

5 Town as I see it:
Me
Tom
EMC
Ghug
Nanook

so, 5 scum and 3 Town in the rest.

I am about to start classes, so if I die tonight, I think right now the scum are:

HR
Goldie
HB
Bo
Fox

I will only ascertain some of the above when HR flips scum tomorrow, and if I remain plugged to the Matrix.

Bismarck is scum. He just picked the 5 most recent visible players people recently scumread so that he doesn’t have to contribute anything original.
Do you have any grander thoughts on the day?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3363 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:20 am

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Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:17 am
@HR: Are you saying you thought both the D1 and D3 wagons on EMC were coordinated from the Ship, or just the D1 one?
Only the D1 one, it obviously makes no sense whatsoever D3. It was the fact they all voted pretty much in unison that screamed synchronisation to me
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:17 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:14 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
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I agree with Ghug.

HR is making this up as he goes along.
Am I? This would be quite the elaborate lie to have done given you can easily go back and check when my townread on goldie faded (IE when Nanook got RB'd and therefore I thought he was the virus)

If I'm making this up, I've clearly put a lot of thought into doing so. Certainly ain't on the fly.
Did you still believe bunny was on the ship at that point?
Eh, I didn't really care. Once it became clear my theory was wrong, I didn't have any reason to try and work out whether X and Y was on the ship - And Bunny was quite clearly town regardless. Nice trap though ;)

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3364 Post by Tom Bombadil » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:21 am

I need to think and I will do so tomorrow. This just immediately stuck out to me.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3365 Post by BismarckAlive » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:22 am

ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:11 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:05 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:58 am


You don't have a u.
You do.
Can you explain why you voted me and then decided to townread me instead?
It was just a tossup between u and HR based on my initial reads at the time, and HR is it based on my final reads at the time. Nothing since has changed my mind on that.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3366 Post by BismarckAlive » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:23 am

ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:20 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:19 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:04 am
13 left - 8 Town and 5 scum

5 Town as I see it:
Me
Tom
EMC
Ghug
Nanook

so, 5 scum and 3 Town in the rest.

I am about to start classes, so if I die tonight, I think right now the scum are:

HR
Goldie
HB
Bo
Fox

I will only ascertain some of the above when HR flips scum tomorrow, and if I remain plugged to the Matrix.

Bismarck is scum. He just picked the 5 most recent visible players people recently scumread so that he doesn’t have to contribute anything original.
Do you have any grander thoughts on the day?
One more miskill to your list, Tom?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3367 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:23 am

BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:22 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:11 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:05 am


You do.
Can you explain why you voted me and then decided to townread me instead?
It was just a tossup between u and HR based on my initial reads at the time, and HR is it based on my final reads at the time. Nothing since has changed my mind on that.
A tossup why? Definite scum to definite town is quite a jump.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3368 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:23 am

BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:22 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:11 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:05 am


You do.
Can you explain why you voted me and then decided to townread me instead?
It was just a tossup between u and HR based on my initial reads at the time, and HR is it based on my final reads at the time. Nothing since has changed my mind on that.
Would you like to explain what those initial or indeed final reads at the time were remotely based on?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3369 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:24 am

BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:23 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:20 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:19 am



Bismarck is scum. He just picked the 5 most recent visible players people recently scumread so that he doesn’t have to contribute anything original.
Do you have any grander thoughts on the day?
One more miskill to your list, Tom?
You think Tom is scum now?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3370 Post by BismarckAlive » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am

ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:23 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:22 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:11 am


Can you explain why you voted me and then decided to townread me instead?
It was just a tossup between u and HR based on my initial reads at the time, and HR is it based on my final reads at the time. Nothing since has changed my mind on that.
A tossup why? Definite scum to definite town is quite a jump.
Only 3 possibilities in this game: scum, town, virus.
I have Latin blood - you are either one or the other.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3371 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am

BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:23 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:22 am


It was just a tossup between u and HR based on my initial reads at the time, and HR is it based on my final reads at the time. Nothing since has changed my mind on that.
A tossup why? Definite scum to definite town is quite a jump.
Only 3 possibilities in this game: scum, town, virus.
I have Latin blood - you are either one or the other.
You were so confident I was scum that you voted for me, and then you flipped to being so confident I'm town to list me with only you and three others. Why?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3372 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:27 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:19 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:04 am
13 left - 8 Town and 5 scum

5 Town as I see it:
Me
Tom
EMC
Ghug
Nanook

so, 5 scum and 3 Town in the rest.

I am about to start classes, so if I die tonight, I think right now the scum are:

HR
Goldie
HB
Bo
Fox

I will only ascertain some of the above when HR flips scum tomorrow, and if I remain plugged to the Matrix.

Bismarck is scum. He just picked the 5 most recent visible players people recently scumread so that he doesn’t have to contribute anything original.
Also if this is right then that might be the funniest thing that's happened this game

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3373 Post by BismarckAlive » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:27 am

ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:24 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:23 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:20 am


Do you have any grander thoughts on the day?
One more miskill to your list, Tom?
You think Tom is scum now?
No. I don't necessarily read my accusers as scum. I just think Tom is playing on the fly and not paying attention.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3374 Post by BismarckAlive » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:37 am

ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:23 am


A tossup why? Definite scum to definite town is quite a jump.
Only 3 possibilities in this game: scum, town, virus.
I have Latin blood - you are either one or the other.
You were so confident I was scum that you voted for me, and then you flipped to being so confident I'm town to list me with only you and three others. Why?
Again, in my mind then one of you and HR was scum. Not both. And then, after all the town deaths and vote analysis, I realised my mistake all along - it wasn't EMC being saved. Putting two and two together, EMC, Tom and u are town!cleared in my mind, leaving HR.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3375 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:46 am

BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:37 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am


Only 3 possibilities in this game: scum, town, virus.
I have Latin blood - you are either one or the other.
You were so confident I was scum that you voted for me, and then you flipped to being so confident I'm town to list me with only you and three others. Why?
Again, in my mind then one of you and HR was scum. Not both. And then, after all the town deaths and vote analysis, I realised my mistake all along - it wasn't EMC being saved. Putting two and two together, EMC, Tom and u are town!cleared in my mind, leaving HR.
So who *was* being saved?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3376 Post by Nanook » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:04 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:02 am
Hell, we can even go so far as to see whether I was right on at least one of them

@Nanook

Did Bunny know you & Damo were on the ship D1? Did you try to instruct him on votes?
We knew who he was, he didn’t know us. IIRC he thought it was damo and EMC for some amount of time but I’d have to check.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3377 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:17 am

Nanook wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:04 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:02 am
Hell, we can even go so far as to see whether I was right on at least one of them

@Nanook

Did Bunny know you & Damo were on the ship D1? Did you try to instruct him on votes?
We knew who he was, he didn’t know us. IIRC he thought it was damo and EMC for some amount of time but I’d have to check.
He joined the D1 emc wagon while thinking emc was on the ship? Yikes

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3378 Post by Nanook » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:33 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:17 am
Nanook wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:04 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:02 am
Hell, we can even go so far as to see whether I was right on at least one of them

@Nanook

Did Bunny know you & Damo were on the ship D1? Did you try to instruct him on votes?
We knew who he was, he didn’t know us. IIRC he thought it was damo and EMC for some amount of time but I’d have to check.
He joined the D1 emc wagon while thinking emc was on the ship? Yikes
I don’t remember timing he might’ve been off it by that point or not there yet.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3379 Post by Nanook » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:34 am

It’s also super irrelevant

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#3380 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:40 am

BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:37 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am
BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:26 am


Only 3 possibilities in this game: scum, town, virus.
I have Latin blood - you are either one or the other.
You were so confident I was scum that you voted for me, and then you flipped to being so confident I'm town to list me with only you and three others. Why?
Again, in my mind then one of you and HR was scum. Not both. And then, after all the town deaths and vote analysis, I realised my mistake all along - it wasn't EMC being saved. Putting two and two together, EMC, Tom and u are town!cleared in my mind, leaving HR.
But why is exactly one of me and HR scum? You're still leaving out the core of your logic.

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