Mafia 57 Matrix

[BunnyGo]

Sorry, got stuck on a family call for the last few minutes of EOD.

So Bunny, why did you think Flash was scum? You barely mentioned him at all during Day 1.

That's true. There wasn't a lot to mention. He and summit came on last minute. Neither looked good on that.

Had summit been an option, I'd have gone for him instead.

But you thought Damo might be an option?

As I explained in my post on my calculus, Damo was one of my few townreads. I'd have probably stayed on EMC if that was my only choice.

[BunnyGo]

@emc

I am having a hard time parsing Jamiet here.

I think that he is advocating not declaring Chosen One

This post, along with all of the convo regarding the 3rd party let me to be convinced that damo is not VT, and likely not town.

Can you elaborate? It looked to me like he was providing a Jamie to English translation service.

[BunnyGo]

##CALL GM

what's going to happen to the MaccaSek slot?

[bozotheclown]

It is hard to make anything from that EOD without knowing if any of the top wagons were scum. summit, damo, emc, and flash were all at significant risk of being killed. It is interesting the BunnyGo voters were not around. TFB, Chaqa, worcej, and Temasek avoided placing any meaningful vote.

[DemonRHK]

@emc

I think that he is advocating not declaring Chosen One

This post, along with all of the convo regarding the 3rd party let me to be convinced that damo is not VT, and likely not town.

Can you elaborate? It looked to me like he was providing a Jamie to English translation service.

It was painfully obvious to anyone with even one game of experience Jamie was telling me and ghug to shut the fuck up and stop narrowing down the pool of possible PRs for scum.

The whole 'most important role' bit would club anyone with a VT PM right the fuck over the head with it's obviousness...

...unless you never got that PM to read it. Got somethin' to say there bunny?

[BunnyGo]

@emc



This post, along with all of the convo regarding the 3rd party let me to be convinced that damo is not VT, and likely not town.

Can you elaborate? It looked to me like he was providing a Jamie to English translation service.

It was painfully obvious to anyone with even one game of experience Jamie was telling me and ghug to shut the fuck up and stop narrowing down the pool of possible PRs for scum.

The whole 'most important role' bit would club anyone with a VT PM right the fuck over the head with it's obviousness...

...unless you never got that PM to read it. Got somethin' to say there bunny?

Just that I think your making something of a nothingburger.

I don’t think Damo is that incompetent. I’ve been scum with him twice recently, he pays attention.

[rdrivera2005]

Sorry for missing EOD, but I don't think I would have changed my vote.

Will read the EOD now to understand why Flash was lynched.

[damo666]

@emc



This post, along with all of the convo regarding the 3rd party let me to be convinced that damo is not VT, and likely not town.

Can you elaborate? It looked to me like he was providing a Jamie to English translation service.

It was painfully obvious to anyone with even one game of experience Jamie was telling me and ghug to shut the fuck up and stop narrowing down the pool of possible PRs for scum.

The whole 'most important role' bit would club anyone with a VT PM right the fuck over the head with it's obviousness...

...unless you never got that PM to read it. Got somethin' to say there bunny?

So why did rdr ask for an explanation of Jamie's post then? He is a very experienced player to boot.

[damo666]

Can you elaborate? It looked to me like he was providing a Jamie to English translation service.

It was painfully obvious to anyone with even one game of experience Jamie was telling me and ghug to shut the fuck up and stop narrowing down the pool of possible PRs for scum.

The whole 'most important role' bit would club anyone with a VT PM right the fuck over the head with it's obviousness...

...unless you never got that PM to read it. Got somethin' to say there bunny?

Just that I think your making something of a nothingburger.

I don’t think Damo is that incompetent. I’ve been scum with him twice recently, he pays attention.

Just mildly incompetent, eh Bunny? lol

[Hamilton Brian]

It is hard to make anything from that EOD without knowing if any of the top wagons were scum. summit, damo, emc, and flash were all at significant risk of being killed. It is interesting the BunnyGo voters were not around. TFB, Chaqa, worcej, and Temasek avoided placing any meaningful vote.

I did check in but had nothing to say that would have impacted the decision-making that went in to eliminating flash. I didn't see any need to change my vote on BunnyGo.

[DemonRHK]

Can you elaborate? It looked to me like he was providing a Jamie to English translation service.

It was painfully obvious to anyone with even one game of experience Jamie was telling me and ghug to shut the fuck up and stop narrowing down the pool of possible PRs for scum.

The whole 'most important role' bit would club anyone with a VT PM right the fuck over the head with it's obviousness...

...unless you never got that PM to read it. Got somethin' to say there bunny?

So why did rdr ask for an explanation of Jamie's post then? He is a very experienced player to boot.

Who knows. If you forced me to hazard a guess, either rdr was wanting something from Jamie in writing in the event he tried to make a case against him later or a rare honest lost in translation between Jamie's Olde English and rdr being ESL.

[BunnyGo]

It was painfully obvious to anyone with even one game of experience Jamie was telling me and ghug to shut the fuck up and stop narrowing down the pool of possible PRs for scum.

The whole 'most important role' bit would club anyone with a VT PM right the fuck over the head with it's obviousness...

...unless you never got that PM to read it. Got somethin' to say there bunny?

Just that I think your making something of a nothingburger.

I don’t think Damo is that incompetent. I’ve been scum with him twice recently, he pays attention.

Just mildly incompetent, eh Bunny? lol

Exactly, like me.

[Hamilton Brian]

I am still trying to sort out that vote movement with BunnyGo's, and goldfinger3030's, explanations.

@goldfinger3030, I am going to go back in the threads to see if you clearly indicate why you feel BunnyGo and Jamie are 2 of your top 3 townreads.

[Tom Bombadil]

Hm. Sorry flash.

At least we got interesting wagon movement.

[rdrivera2005]

Can you elaborate? It looked to me like he was providing a Jamie to English translation service.

It was painfully obvious to anyone with even one game of experience Jamie was telling me and ghug to shut the fuck up and stop narrowing down the pool of possible PRs for scum.

The whole 'most important role' bit would club anyone with a VT PM right the fuck over the head with it's obviousness...

...unless you never got that PM to read it. Got somethin' to say there bunny?

So why did rdr ask for an explanation of Jamie's post then? He is a very experienced player to boot.

I was not sure Jamiet was telling them not to claim VT or if he didn't get the reference, which would be very unusual to Jamiet. He clarified later that he went people to not claim VT. What is weird on this?

[rdrivera2005]

Having read EOD, I really dislike Bunny play at it. He jumped in a summit wagon as soon as it formed and his vote on Flash out of the blue after pushing that emc is a good lynch even if he is town doesn't make any sense.
The resistance to a Damo wagon reinforces my read on him, but I might be tunneling.

[Hamilton Brian]

@emc, after the vote, have you had a change in opinion on any of your reads? What do you make of your wagon that reduced just in time for your safety?

[damo666]

It was painfully obvious to anyone with even one game of experience Jamie was telling me and ghug to shut the fuck up and stop narrowing down the pool of possible PRs for scum.

The whole 'most important role' bit would club anyone with a VT PM right the fuck over the head with it's obviousness...

...unless you never got that PM to read it. Got somethin' to say there bunny?

So why did rdr ask for an explanation of Jamie's post then? He is a very experienced player to boot.

I was not sure Jamiet was telling them not to claim VT or if he didn't get the reference, which would be very unusual to Jamiet. He clarified later that he went people to not claim VT. What is weird on this?

OK fine. I was just responding to Demon's point. I think we've done this to death now.

[goldfinger0303]

@goldfinger3030, I am going to go back in the threads to see if you clearly indicate why you feel BunnyGo and Jamie are 2 of your top 3 townreads.

I clearly listed they were my top town reads. I never eliquated why I felt that way on Jamiet, but all of his posts around the chosen one stuff were very townish to me and a lot of others.

[Hamilton Brian]

Having read EOD, I really dislike Bunny play at it. He jumped in a summit wagon as soon as it formed and his vote on Flash out of the blue after pushing that emc is a good lynch even if he is town doesn't make any sense.
The resistance to a Damo wagon reinforces my read on him, but I might be tunneling.

Taking this a bit further, early on Bunny alluded to Damo possibly being town because they were "role-playing." Emphasized that Damo plays disinterested when scum (that was the main basis for them reading Damo as town).

So it goes back to those voters. Why did they think Damo was scum? Do they continue to stand by that assertion? Does this implicate BunnyGo if the answer remains yes?