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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1261 Post by Vecna » Sun May 24, 2020 9:32 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:24 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:17 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:12 pm
So either damo is scum or scum are total pricks and toying with us.
if damo isnt scum, scum were obviously idiots that activated the voting power for the wrong day somehow.

chaqa was trying to hide the damo townflip because it wasnt actually lylo if it was already used today.
Chaqa definitely looks bad for the move to BunnyGo, but damo could also be the JOAT. I do not see why a scum Chaqa would implicate himself there to save a town damo.
if damo did flip town with a doublevoter amongst the voters everyone would suddenly believe me. me and kgray would look good. all scum wouldve been on the wagon and theyd have to frame bozo to still be able to win.

but youre right, if damo isnt scum , they surely made a major error in judgement activating it early. If damo IS scum, hes sure lucky that chaqa went against all his reads and suddenly swapped with 1min to go.

its also possible scum is damo+ chaqa + neph and it was a SvS wagon

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1262 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 24, 2020 9:33 pm

If damo is the JOAT, the mafia were about to see the JOAT lynched and would be down 5-2 D4. Chaqa could have taken the chance to save damo there, hoping someone would follow him to BunnyGo.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1263 Post by damo666 » Sun May 24, 2020 9:36 pm

How am I alive? They could have lynched me easily. What the hell is going on?

I know I'm perceived as a less than high quality player but playing with my mind like this is just plain cruel.

Could Bozo Tom and Vecna be doing this for laughs?

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1264 Post by damo666 » Sun May 24, 2020 9:37 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:30 pm
Let’s have a moment of silence for worcej in the godthread after another no lynch because of a tie lol
😯

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1265 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 24, 2020 9:38 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:32 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:24 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:17 pm


if damo isnt scum, scum were obviously idiots that activated the voting power for the wrong day somehow.

chaqa was trying to hide the damo townflip because it wasnt actually lylo if it was already used today.
Chaqa definitely looks bad for the move to BunnyGo, but damo could also be the JOAT. I do not see why a scum Chaqa would implicate himself there to save a town damo.
if damo did flip town with a doublevoter amongst the voters everyone would suddenly believe me. me and kgray would look good. all scum wouldve been on the wagon and theyd have to frame bozo to still be able to win.

but youre right, if damo isnt scum , they surely made a major error in judgement activating it early. If damo IS scum, hes sure lucky that chaqa went against all his reads and suddenly swapped with 1min to go.

its also possible scum is damo+ chaqa + neph and it was a SvS wagon
Maybe, that was the consensus scum team.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1266 Post by Vecna » Sun May 24, 2020 9:52 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:36 pm
How am I alive? They could have lynched me easily. What the hell is going on?

I know I'm perceived as a less than high quality player but playing with my mind like this is just plain cruel.

Could Bozo Tom and Vecna be doing this for laughs?
I seriously feel that if Damo was town itd be crystal clear to him what had happened and why

fuck

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1267 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 24, 2020 10:16 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:33 pm
If damo is the JOAT, the mafia were about to see the JOAT lynched and would be down 5-2 D4. Chaqa could have taken the chance to save damo there, hoping someone would follow him to BunnyGo.
The only reason to activate JOAT extra vote yesterday was “use it or lose it”. Damo must be JOAT.

Now, I actually think kgray is scummy, but Chaq late move is towny. He couldn’t know he was tying the vote.

And anyone thinking I’m playing like my scum game instead of sitting back and trying to listen sucks at this game.

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#1268 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 24, 2020 10:16 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:16 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:33 pm
If damo is the JOAT, the mafia were about to see the JOAT lynched and would be down 5-2 D4. Chaqa could have taken the chance to save damo there, hoping someone would follow him to BunnyGo.
The only reason to activate JOAT extra vote yesterday was “use it or lose it”. Damo must be JOAT.

Now, I actually think kgray is scummy, but Chaq late move is towny. He couldn’t know he was tying the vote.

And anyone thinking I’m playing like my scum game instead of sitting back and trying to listen sucks at this game.
##vote Damo.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1269 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 24, 2020 10:17 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:36 pm
How am I alive? They could have lynched me easily. What the hell is going on?

I know I'm perceived as a less than high quality player but playing with my mind like this is just plain cruel.

Could Bozo Tom and Vecna be doing this for laughs?
I seriously feel that if Damo was town itd be crystal clear to him what had happened and why

fuck
Why do you think there’s any doubt?

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1270 Post by Tom Bombadil » Sun May 24, 2020 10:20 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:16 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:33 pm
If damo is the JOAT, the mafia were about to see the JOAT lynched and would be down 5-2 D4. Chaqa could have taken the chance to save damo there, hoping someone would follow him to BunnyGo.
The only reason to activate JOAT extra vote yesterday was “use it or lose it”. Damo must be JOAT.

Now, I actually think kgray is scummy, but Chaq late move is towny. He couldn’t know he was tying the vote.

And anyone thinking I’m playing like my scum game instead of sitting back and trying to listen sucks at this game.
So you think kgray is scummy and damo is JOAT?

How do you explain kgray voting damo D1 - especially since she also scumread xorx. She had ample cover to switch, plus it seems unlikely scum would bus JOAT

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1271 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 24, 2020 10:21 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:23 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:19 pm
inb4 I'm scum for causing a tie.

The way EoD was going, with it being so quiet and the complete disregard made me think damo could be town, and kgray's Neph/Bunny theory makes sense to me.

I need to reread.
So you are claiming either kgray or Vecna activated double vote? But why? I don't get it . They are toying with us.
Tell me kgray: did you not see his trolling posts YESTERDAY?! Do you see them today?

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#1272 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 24, 2020 10:24 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:36 pm
How am I alive? They could have lynched me easily. What the hell is going on?

I know I'm perceived as a less than high quality player but playing with my mind like this is just plain cruel.

Could Bozo Tom and Vecna be doing this for laughs?
I seriously feel that if Damo was town itd be crystal clear to him what had happened and why

fuck
:? What are you doing? This is not Town vecna.

Hey Bozo: my wagon is STILL (stop leaving me off your opinion poll!!)

Damo (JOAT), Vecna ( :? ), and kgray (why did any of you townread her? Seriously why? I’m asking you @Tom and @Bozo. You didn’t answer before)

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#1273 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 24, 2020 10:44 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:24 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:36 pm
How am I alive? They could have lynched me easily. What the hell is going on?

I know I'm perceived as a less than high quality player but playing with my mind like this is just plain cruel.

Could Bozo Tom and Vecna be doing this for laughs?
I seriously feel that if Damo was town itd be crystal clear to him what had happened and why

fuck
:? What are you doing? This is not Town vecna.

Hey Bozo: my wagon is STILL (stop leaving me off your opinion poll!!)

Damo (JOAT), Vecna ( :? ), and kgray (why did any of you townread her? Seriously why? I’m asking you @Tom and @Bozo. You didn’t answer before)
Sorry, I did not see where you ever gave a top 3. Lets start a new one for D4.

scum team prediction:
BunnyGo: damo, Vecna, kgray
bozo: damo, Chaqa, ?

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#1274 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 24, 2020 10:50 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:16 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:33 pm
If damo is the JOAT, the mafia were about to see the JOAT lynched and would be down 5-2 D4. Chaqa could have taken the chance to save damo there, hoping someone would follow him to BunnyGo.
The only reason to activate JOAT extra vote yesterday was “use it or lose it”. Damo must be JOAT.

Now, I actually think kgray is scummy, but Chaq late move is towny. He couldn’t know he was tying the vote.

And anyone thinking I’m playing like my scum game instead of sitting back and trying to listen sucks at this game.
It is possible the JOAT is someone who did not realize they should save the double vote until it was too late. Chaqa never seemed clear on the optimal use of the double vote.


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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1276 Post by Chaqa » Sun May 24, 2020 10:53 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:50 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:16 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:33 pm
If damo is the JOAT, the mafia were about to see the JOAT lynched and would be down 5-2 D4. Chaqa could have taken the chance to save damo there, hoping someone would follow him to BunnyGo.
The only reason to activate JOAT extra vote yesterday was “use it or lose it”. Damo must be JOAT.

Now, I actually think kgray is scummy, but Chaq late move is towny. He couldn’t know he was tying the vote.

And anyone thinking I’m playing like my scum game instead of sitting back and trying to listen sucks at this game.
It is possible the JOAT is someone who did not realize they should save the double vote until it was too late. Chaqa never seemed clear on the optimal use of the double vote.
Isn't that sorta backward, though? Wouldn't scum be the ones to understand it better? It wouldn't be the first time I didn't read a setup completely, even this game (see: vig flip)

Scumteam guess: 3/4 of (Vecna, Bunny, damo, Tom)

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#1277 Post by foodcoats » Sun May 24, 2020 11:01 pm

That's a very unfortunate result.

Off the cuff I struggle to see damo as the JOAT who fired the double suboptimally. The guy loves prime numbers and other types of numbers I've never even heard of. Why would he not be able to math this out? Why would damo as JOAT misuse the real value of that skill? There would have been no way to know they could achieve a tie D3, and using the double only to be lynched would be irrelevant; it would be better to fight like hell to get to D4 and hang on to it.

It also kind of assumes at least 2 of the 4 on Bunny are scum, and I'm not sure about that yet.

It seems more likely someone derped it up but saw an opportunity to tie and deny us info.

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#1278 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 24, 2020 11:07 pm

It is mylo at 5-3, so it is possible the mafia forced the tie to save a town damo for a mislynch today, where lynching him D3 would have made it lylo D4 at 4-3. However, the fact that the double vote was activate N2 points to damo as the JOAT.

I think Chaqa is implicated either way.

##VOTE Chaqa

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#1279 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 24, 2020 11:11 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:01 pm
That's a very unfortunate result.

Off the cuff I struggle to see damo as the JOAT who fired the double suboptimally. The guy loves prime numbers and other types of numbers I've never even heard of. Why would he not be able to math this out? Why would damo as JOAT misuse the real value of that skill? There would have been no way to know they could achieve a tie D3, and using the double only to be lynched would be irrelevant; it would be better to fight like hell to get to D4 and hang on to it.

It also kind of assumes at least 2 of the 4 on Bunny are scum, and I'm not sure about that yet.

It seems more likely someone derped it up but saw an opportunity to tie and deny us info.
That is a good point, damo would not have gained much by using the double vote D3, even if he was the likely lynch.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#1280 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 24, 2020 11:13 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:53 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:50 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:16 pm


The only reason to activate JOAT extra vote yesterday was “use it or lose it”. Damo must be JOAT.

Now, I actually think kgray is scummy, but Chaq late move is towny. He couldn’t know he was tying the vote.

And anyone thinking I’m playing like my scum game instead of sitting back and trying to listen sucks at this game.
It is possible the JOAT is someone who did not realize they should save the double vote until it was too late. Chaqa never seemed clear on the optimal use of the double vote.
Isn't that sorta backward, though? Wouldn't scum be the ones to understand it better? It wouldn't be the first time I didn't read a setup completely, even this game (see: vig flip)

Scumteam guess: 3/4 of (Vecna, Bunny, damo, Tom)
xorxes made it clear how the scum should best use the double vote, if the scum team were paying attention, but maybe there were not.

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