M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

FYI I added xorxes to the QT.

I don’t think it was a good move in retrospect but meh. If it makes him inform me and Jamie of his role it’s worth.

I think we should postpone the xorxes vs. Rivera and Vecna vs. brain a day and lynch Squigs.

I don’t understand your fascination with trying to avoid lynching known scum.

[foodcoats]

The most bizarre thing is that Xorxes claim to have a guilty on me and Temasek claims to have a clear on me and I don´t have a clue on what they are talking about. I didn´t get a single message that someone visited me, even though I will probably not get one unless someone try to kill me.

Just to be clear: I do not claim to have a guilty on you. I claim that if all you have to claim is bulletproof, then you're lying, and therefore I conclude that you must be scum.

Whoa, whoah, whoooaaahhh.

Seriously back-pedalling here by Xorxes.

He earlier claimed to have a result on Rdrivera.

Look:

Xorx are you a gun cop or something

I don't want to reveal exactly what my ability is, but I can guarantee that the result I got means rivera is scum given his claim.

This is oddly fallacious for you, Jamie. A "result" can be many things, a "guilty" implies an alignment-cop scan result.

[Chaqa]

Curious about why xorxes is almost last to hardclaim since this was p5

His reluctance to claim has struck me as odd given how pro-massclaim he was earlier.

I have already explained that massclaim only made sense D1 before scum had time to talk. It doesn't help now. It probably doesn't hurt either if anyone wants to claim their role for whatever reason. In my case, it may be worth keeping it a secret for one more day. I will tell you my full role tonight in the QT.

@xorx - can you relay it using the QT? Like, maybe the first letter of certain posts or something?

[BunnyGo]

FYI I added xorxes to the QT.

I don’t think it was a good move in retrospect but meh. If it makes him inform me and Jamie of his role it’s worth.

I think we should postpone the xorxes vs. Rivera and Vecna vs. brain a day and lynch Squigs.

Why did you add Xorxes?

Why are you so sure Neph is now town?

Why Squigs?

Why why why all of these things?

Didn’t he explain all this to you in the orgy?

[Chaqa]

FYI I added xorxes to the QT.

I don’t think it was a good move in retrospect but meh. If it makes him inform me and Jamie of his role it’s worth.

I think we should postpone the xorxes vs. Rivera and Vecna vs. brain a day and lynch Squigs.

I don’t understand your fascination with trying to avoid lynching known scum.

He isn't "known" scum unless we believe xorxes. I'm just very cautious atm.

[Jamiet99uk]

FYI I added xorxes to the QT.

I don’t think it was a good move in retrospect but meh. If it makes him inform me and Jamie of his role it’s worth.

I think we should postpone the xorxes vs. Rivera and Vecna vs. brain a day and lynch Squigs.

Why did you add Xorxes?

Why are you so sure Neph is now town?

Why Squigs?

Why why why all of these things?

Didn’t he explain all this to you in the orgy?

He might have tried, but there was something in his mouth.

[Temasek22]

Knowing my role I'm fairly certain rdr is town based on previous interactions.

The counter wagon is ##vote xorx I think?

How does your role infer to his?

I meant alignment, oh well. Previous interactions as in what his interactions with Sarah.

[Jamiet99uk]

FYI I added xorxes to the QT.

I don’t think it was a good move in retrospect but meh. If it makes him inform me and Jamie of his role it’s worth.

I think we should postpone the xorxes vs. Rivera and Vecna vs. brain a day and lynch Squigs.

I don’t understand your fascination with trying to avoid lynching known scum.

Who is "known scum" please, and on what basis?

[xorxes]

I also don't like how on N3 Xorxes was happy to assume the Jailor was a scum role, but as soon as Neph declared himself Town Jailor, Xorxes just smiled and nodded and swallowed this as perfectly fine and didn't feel the need to ask any questions about it and just concentrated on pushing Rdrivera instead.

Things have happened in between. In any case, Neph is nowhere close to a top townread. I know that rivera is scum. I don't really know what Neph is. I find his explanations for jailing decisions reasonable. My argument that there can't be two town roleblockers still bothers me a bit, but I'm happy to think about it later after we see what scum role rivera has.

[foodcoats]

Knowing my role I'm fairly certain rdr is town based on previous interactions.

The counter wagon is ##vote xorx I think?

How does your role infer to his?

I meant alignment, oh well. Previous interactions as in what his interactions with Sarah.

Now this sounds like a terrible lie. "Knowing my alignment?" Who has ever said that in the history of Mafia?

[foodcoats]

Temasek is claiming they wrote that said, "Knowing my alignment, I think rdr is town based on the way rdr treated me/Sarah."

This literally makes no sense at all.

##VOTE Temasek

[Temasek22]

Bad wording on my part. But xorx has an interesting reaction, I take my vote off him for now. ##unvote

Speaking of role, I have barely any intel given that Sarah hasn't done much and I misread role PM at start which led to an action that gave little information. In a while I'll probs be able to actually do something.

[Jamiet99uk]

I also don't like how on N3 Xorxes was happy to assume the Jailor was a scum role, but as soon as Neph declared himself Town Jailor, Xorxes just smiled and nodded and swallowed this as perfectly fine and didn't feel the need to ask any questions about it and just concentrated on pushing Rdrivera instead.

Things have happened in between. In any case, Neph is nowhere close to a top townread. I know that rivera is scum. I don't really know what Neph is. I find his explanations for jailing decisions reasonable. My argument that there can't be two town roleblockers still bothers me a bit, but I'm happy to think about it later after we see what scum role rivera has.

But we don't, and you are refusing to provide us with the information to back up your claim.

Why should anyone believe you, Xorxes?

[xorxes]

The most bizarre thing is that Xorxes claim to have a guilty on me and Temasek claims to have a clear on me and I don´t have a clue on what they are talking about. I didn´t get a single message that someone visited me, even though I will probably not get one unless someone try to kill me.

Just to be clear: I do not claim to have a guilty on you. I claim that if all you have to claim is bulletproof, then you're lying, and therefore I conclude that you must be scum.

Whoa, whoah, whoooaaahhh.

Seriously back-pedalling here by Xorxes.

He earlier claimed to have a result on Rdrivera.

Look:

Xorx are you a gun cop or something

I don't want to reveal exactly what my ability is, but I can guarantee that the result I got means rivera is scum given his claim.

That's not backpedalling, I'm saying the same thing. The result I have is not a guilty scan. It is something else, incompatible with his claim of only being bulletproof.

[Chaqa]

How does your role infer to his?

I meant alignment, oh well. Previous interactions as in what his interactions with Sarah.

Now this sounds like a terrible lie. "Knowing my alignment?" Who has ever said that in the history of Mafia?

Eh, word-ism reads are a bad idea. People used to lynch me because of the way I speak too.

[Chaqa]

Temasek is claiming they wrote that said, "Knowing my alignment, I think rdr is town based on the way rdr treated me/Sarah."

This literally makes no sense at all.

##VOTE Temasek

I read that to mean:
"Knowing I'm town, rivera's push on me makes no sense as scum"

Alternatively could be:
"Knowing I'm scum, I need to make sure we don't lynch scum teammate rivera"

So... both town or both scum.

[foodcoats]

I also don't like how on N3 Xorxes was happy to assume the Jailor was a scum role, but as soon as Neph declared himself Town Jailor, Xorxes just smiled and nodded and swallowed this as perfectly fine and didn't feel the need to ask any questions about it and just concentrated on pushing Rdrivera instead.

Things have happened in between. In any case, Neph is nowhere close to a top townread. I know that rivera is scum. I don't really know what Neph is. I find his explanations for jailing decisions reasonable. My argument that there can't be two town roleblockers still bothers me a bit, but I'm happy to think about it later after we see what scum role rivera has.

But we don't, and you are refusing to provide us with the information to back up your claim.

Why should anyone believe you, Xorxes?

If you want to set aside the question of lynching rdr, that's fine, but Jamie, please explain how this is coming from scum!xorxes.

[Chaqa]

Xorx - if you can relay to me, Jamie, and food what you have to back this up, that would go a long way in convincing the other town members.

[foodcoats]

Temasek is claiming they wrote that said, "Knowing my alignment, I think rdr is town based on the way rdr treated me/Sarah."

This literally makes no sense at all.

##VOTE Temasek

I read that to mean:
"Knowing I'm town, rivera's push on me makes no sense as scum"

Alternatively could be:
"Knowing I'm scum, I need to make sure we don't lynch scum teammate rivera"

So... both town or both scum.

Yes, but it also began as "knowing my role." Also, why would scum!rdr's push on town!Sarah not make sense? Scum push all the time. Good pushes make good mislynches.

[Jamiet99uk]

Things have happened in between. In any case, Neph is nowhere close to a top townread. I know that rivera is scum. I don't really know what Neph is. I find his explanations for jailing decisions reasonable. My argument that there can't be two town roleblockers still bothers me a bit, but I'm happy to think about it later after we see what scum role rivera has.

But we don't, and you are refusing to provide us with the information to back up your claim.

Why should anyone believe you, Xorxes?

If you want to set aside the question of lynching rdr, that's fine, but Jamie, please explain how this is coming from scum!xorxes.

If Scum Xorxes believes that Rdrivera is bulletproof, then he needs to get him mislynched because they can't kill him at night. Simples.