M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4981 Post by kgray » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:59 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:56 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:47 pm

And I don't know. Fox was town so I believe he honestly thought Balki was scum. However, I think that scum-Balki in the other games could have easily used the same argument that town-Balki would use, so I'm not convinced that this makes Balki scum here.
That was not quite the argument though. Town!Balki suspected town!Fox in one game because of some personality trait of Fox. Then scum!Balki used the same argument against town!Fox in a subsequent game. And now in this game Balki used again the same argument, even with the same expressions, that he used as scum, even though by now Balki already knew that that was not a scumtell for Fox.
Okay, fair enough. But my point about Balki probably not being nonPZ scum remains, and this does not change my reads of you and damo. I will keep this in mind if the game is still going after today's lynch.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4982 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:01 pm

@Bozo:

Please look at my analysis on Xorxes. It's important.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4983 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:06 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:59 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:40 pm

So why embellish then if it wasn't relevant?
I slightly misread Rdrivera's tone. I did not seek to embellish anything. You are ascribing scummy motivations to me in an effort to diminish my case, without engaging with its substance.

This convinces me that my central point is sound.

Your bussing behaviour when you bussed Moscowfleet aligns closely to your vote for Bob in this game.
OK, I accept that you didn't embellish on purpose, but it is relevant to your case because it makes it seem as if the Bob wagon was inevitable.

It doesn't align that closely because Moscow was already a wagon and likely to be lynched, whereas Bob would not have become a wagon if it wasn't for me. I had several other people I could have voted for.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4984 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:08 pm

kgray wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:59 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:56 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:47 pm

And I don't know. Fox was town so I believe he honestly thought Balki was scum. However, I think that scum-Balki in the other games could have easily used the same argument that town-Balki would use, so I'm not convinced that this makes Balki scum here.
That was not quite the argument though. Town!Balki suspected town!Fox in one game because of some personality trait of Fox. Then scum!Balki used the same argument against town!Fox in a subsequent game. And now in this game Balki used again the same argument, even with the same expressions, that he used as scum, even though by now Balki already knew that that was not a scumtell for Fox.
Okay, fair enough. But my point about Balki probably not being nonPZ scum remains, and this does not change my reads of you and damo. I will keep this in mind if the game is still going after today's lynch.
It won't be still going if you lynch me...

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4985 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm

Attention current kgray voters.

Quite possible we are the entire town team. Stay where you are. We have won.

If there is a town not on kgray be wary from a late switch from kgray to the competing wagon which despite the current Xorxes wagon will probably be me. You should then realise that I am town and kgray scum so be ready to move.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4986 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm

BunnyGo still has not provided a reasonable explanation for what he meant here:
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:49 pm
OK, just finished rereading my own previous rereads on damo. I don't know how I forgot all that. Fine kgray, hat tip to you if you're scum. ##vote Damo
From his latest answer it seems he is saying he reread his reads of damo from before D5 and decided damo was more likely to be scum than kgray, despite kgray being his top scum read all of D5 and almost all of D6, and that this reread and change of opinion occurred within a 2 minute interval after this post:
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:47 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:46 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:45 pm
Fine, ##VOTE Kgray.
Why? Just Bozo's weak "case" ?
If you haven't read my many posts on kgray, then I'm not repeating them here for you.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4987 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm

Guys, I can’t really hang around online for the next hour. I can glance occasionally from my phone.

@Bunny, you said you prefer to lynch Damo over Kgray. I am sure we can do that. Kgray and Jamiet would join us.

So let’s lynch Damo.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4988 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:11 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:06 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:59 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:40 pm

So why embellish then if it wasn't relevant?
I slightly misread Rdrivera's tone. I did not seek to embellish anything. You are ascribing scummy motivations to me in an effort to diminish my case, without engaging with its substance.

This convinces me that my central point is sound.

Your bussing behaviour when you bussed Moscowfleet aligns closely to your vote for Bob in this game.
OK, I accept that you didn't embellish on purpose, but it is relevant to your case because it makes it seem as if the Bob wagon was inevitable.

It doesn't align that closely because Moscow was already a wagon and likely to be lynched, whereas Bob would not have become a wagon if it wasn't for me. I had several other people I could have voted for.
You're claiming too much credit for the Bob wagon. I had voted Bob (and moved off) before you, and Rdrivera had said he wanted to join a Bob wagon if one started.

Plus, your reason for voting Bob was weak and OMGUSsy, and you never, ever pushed the wagon after you started it.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4989 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:12 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm
Guys, I can’t really hang around online for the next hour. I can glance occasionally from my phone.

@Bunny, you said you prefer to lynch Damo over Kgray. I am sure we can do that. Kgray and Jamiet would join us.

So let’s lynch Damo.
Xorxes is the correct lynch.

Did you read my analysis?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4990 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:12 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm
Guys, I can’t really hang around online for the next hour. I can glance occasionally from my phone.

@Bunny, you said you prefer to lynch Damo over Kgray. I am sure we can do that. Kgray and Jamiet would join us.

So let’s lynch Damo.
LOL As predicted by my Xpost.

What further proof is required?

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#4991 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:13 pm

@Bozotheclown are you listening to me?

May I have just a moment of your attention, please?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4992 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:13 pm

Going offline for a bit. I’ll be back before EOD. I’m Town. I’ll vote Xorx or Damo. Please join me.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4993 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:14 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:13 pm
Going offline for a bit. I’ll be back before EOD. I’m Town. I’ll vote Xorx or Damo. Please join me.
VOTE FOR XORXES THEN

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4994 Post by kgray » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:14 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:12 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm
Guys, I can’t really hang around online for the next hour. I can glance occasionally from my phone.

@Bunny, you said you prefer to lynch Damo over Kgray. I am sure we can do that. Kgray and Jamiet would join us.

So let’s lynch Damo.
Xorxes is the correct lynch.

Did you read my analysis?
Jamie I agree, but you, Balki and I have to vote together and hope that whichever of bozo/Bunny is town joins us.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4995 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:14 pm

This is hilarious. Scum team like a puppy trying to catch its own tail.

Caught hook, line and sinker.

PANIC abounds

This is fun.

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#4996 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:14 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:13 pm
@Bozotheclown are you listening to me?

May I have just a moment of your attention, please?
Yes, I have read your analysis, give me a minute to respond.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4997 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:15 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:14 pm
This is hilarious. Scum team like a puppy trying to catch its own tail.

Caught hook, line and sinker.

PANIC abounds

This is fun.
I'm town, though, yes?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4998 Post by kgray » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:16 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:14 pm
This is hilarious. Scum team like a puppy trying to catch its own tail.

Caught hook, line and sinker.

PANIC abounds

This is fun.
This post REEKS of scum predicting that town isn't going to decide to vote together, and celebrating an early victory.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4999 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:17 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:11 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:06 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:59 pm


I slightly misread Rdrivera's tone. I did not seek to embellish anything. You are ascribing scummy motivations to me in an effort to diminish my case, without engaging with its substance.

This convinces me that my central point is sound.

Your bussing behaviour when you bussed Moscowfleet aligns closely to your vote for Bob in this game.
OK, I accept that you didn't embellish on purpose, but it is relevant to your case because it makes it seem as if the Bob wagon was inevitable.

It doesn't align that closely because Moscow was already a wagon and likely to be lynched, whereas Bob would not have become a wagon if it wasn't for me. I had several other people I could have voted for.
You're claiming too much credit for the Bob wagon. I had voted Bob (and moved off) before you, and Rdrivera had said he wanted to join a Bob wagon if one started.

Plus, your reason for voting Bob was weak and OMGUSsy, and you never, ever pushed the wagon after you started it.
I never claimed credit for pushing the wagon, only for starting it. I did push rivera a little bit, by putting him on the spot, but that's all.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#5000 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:18 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:15 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:14 pm
This is hilarious. Scum team like a puppy trying to catch its own tail.

Caught hook, line and sinker.

PANIC abounds

This is fun.
I'm town, though, yes?
If you are you have a funny way of showing it.

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