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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#101 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:29 am

Neph? ND?
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#102 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:32 am

bo? Flav? TrPrado?
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#103 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:34 am

EP? food coats?
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#104 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:36 am

DemonRHK? Percy?
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#105 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:42 am

Moscow? et? Yav?
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#106 Post by xorxes » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 pm

If two Mafia from opposing factions are the last two, and neither has any relevant powers (such as Roleblock or a stolen knife or doctor bag etc) then again this would effectively be a draw. This is relatively unlikely, but possible. Players should bear in mind their victory condition and aim to avoid this outcome, of course.
It sounds like it should be a prisoner's dilemma: If they both hold their NK, they draw; if one holds and the other one shoots, the one who shoots wins; if they both shoot, both lose and town wins (because all mafia have then been eliminated).
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#107 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:21 pm

xorxes wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 pm

If two Mafia from opposing factions are the last two, and neither has any relevant powers (such as Roleblock or a stolen knife or doctor bag etc) then again this would effectively be a draw. This is relatively unlikely, but possible. Players should bear in mind their victory condition and aim to avoid this outcome, of course.
It sounds like it should be a prisoner's dilemma: If they both hold their NK, they draw; if one holds and the other one shoots, the one who shoots wins; if they both shoot, both lose and town wins (because all mafia have then been eliminated).
I think it’s even worse for them than prisoners dilemma, since it doesn’t end until someone does shoot.
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#108 Post by dargorygel » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:09 pm

I wish I hadn't signed up yet... so maybe damo would whisper MY name in the wind...

bozotheclown? peterlund?
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#109 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:55 pm

xorxes wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 pm

If two Mafia from opposing factions are the last two, and neither has any relevant powers (such as Roleblock or a stolen knife or doctor bag etc) then again this would effectively be a draw. This is relatively unlikely, but possible. Players should bear in mind their victory condition and aim to avoid this outcome, of course.
It sounds like it should be a prisoner's dilemma: If they both hold their NK, they draw; if one holds and the other one shoots, the one who shoots wins; if they both shoot, both lose and town wins (because all mafia have then been eliminated).
Oh Xorxes you are clever.
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#110 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:56 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:09 pm
I wish I hadn't signed up yet... so maybe damo would whisper MY name in the wind...

bozotheclown? peterlund?
I've heard Damo whispers your name while he dreams. Isn't that enough?

Or perhaps in his nightmares, idk
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#111 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:02 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:09 pm
I wish I hadn't signed up yet... so maybe damo would whisper MY name in the wind...

bozotheclown? peterlund?
bozo is already in
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#112 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:03 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 pm

If two Mafia from opposing factions are the last two, and neither has any relevant powers (such as Roleblock or a stolen knife or doctor bag etc) then again this would effectively be a draw. This is relatively unlikely, but possible. Players should bear in mind their victory condition and aim to avoid this outcome, of course.
It sounds like it should be a prisoner's dilemma: If they both hold their NK, they draw; if one holds and the other one shoots, the one who shoots wins; if they both shoot, both lose and town wins (because all mafia have then been eliminated).
I think it’s even worse for them than prisoners dilemma, since it doesn’t end until someone does shoot.
So it's auto town victory.
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#113 Post by worcej » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:40 pm

xorxes wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 pm

If two Mafia from opposing factions are the last two, and neither has any relevant powers (such as Roleblock or a stolen knife or doctor bag etc) then again this would effectively be a draw. This is relatively unlikely, but possible. Players should bear in mind their victory condition and aim to avoid this outcome, of course.
It sounds like it should be a prisoner's dilemma: If they both hold their NK, they draw; if one holds and the other one shoots, the one who shoots wins; if they both shoot, both lose and town wins (because all mafia have then been eliminated).
Yes you are clever, I think this will be how it plays out lol
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#114 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:21 pm

damo666 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:03 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 am


It sounds like it should be a prisoner's dilemma: If they both hold their NK, they draw; if one holds and the other one shoots, the one who shoots wins; if they both shoot, both lose and town wins (because all mafia have then been eliminated).
I think it’s even worse for them than prisoners dilemma, since it doesn’t end until someone does shoot.
So it's auto town victory.
One scum could play kingmaker since they could reasonably argue that they can’t win so they can play for other goals.
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#115 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:33 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:21 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:03 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:21 pm


I think it’s even worse for them than prisoners dilemma, since it doesn’t end until someone does shoot.
So it's auto town victory.
One scum could play kingmaker since they could reasonably argue that they can’t win so they can play for other goals.
How? (individually)
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#116 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:37 pm

damo666 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:33 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:21 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:03 pm


So it's auto town victory.
One scum could play kingmaker since they could reasonably argue that they can’t win so they can play for other goals.
How? (individually)
Tell the other scum to win. I don’t try a NK, they do. They win. I’m playing against my win condition, but I couldn’t win. So I let the other scum win rather than the town.
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#117 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:02 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:37 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:33 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:21 pm


One scum could play kingmaker since they could reasonably argue that they can’t win so they can play for other goals.
How? (individually)
Tell the other scum to win. I don’t try a NK, they do. They win. I’m playing against my win condition, but I couldn’t win. So I let the other scum win rather than the town.
I think that would constitute a contravention of rule 7.


They could agree to draw indefinitely and appeal to the GM for a draw. To save us from the possibility of an infinite game I think the GM should declare before the game starts what the result would be in this event. Any of the following seem reasonable (well, not unreasonable)

i) joint scum victory

ii) town victory

iii) victory for town and both scum

iv) victory for all

v) void game

@Jamie ?
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#118 Post by dargorygel » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:17 pm

damo666 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:02 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:37 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:33 pm


How? (individually)
Tell the other scum to win. I don’t try a NK, they do. They win. I’m playing against my win condition, but I couldn’t win. So I let the other scum win rather than the town.
I think that would constitute a contravention of rule 7.


They could agree to draw indefinitely and appeal to the GM for a draw. To save us from the possibility of an infinite game I think the GM should declare before the game starts what the result would be in this event. Any of the following seem reasonable (well, not unreasonable)

i) joint scum victory

ii) town victory

iii) victory for town and both scum

iv) victory for all

v) void game

@Jamie ?
Vi) victory for Victor/victoria
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#119 Post by Vaporwave » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:26 pm

I want this to be the greatest game of all time.

Let's not try to make strategies before the game starts, like advising mafia members to drop their panties for another mafia team or any of that sort of thing.

I lowkey want Jack the Ripper to win until I receive my card, but I plan to play to my wincon once I see on which side I'm supposed to lean
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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

#120 Post by BionicMole » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:11 pm

Hey everyone,

I love this theme and the cast of characters!

##CALL GM
I have a quick question about the Street Urchin hoping it hasn't been answered yet. So when he observes the person visiting him, what info will be passed on? Will he know if he was scanned or whatever?
Thanks in advance
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