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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:13 pm
by foodcoats
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:11 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:08 pm
Honestly i think they're both scum and emc was doc and they're going for dubs.
I am actually quite open to this idea, but please see my above post. As much as I hate to, I think we’re best delaying the Maniac question for another day until the Mind Stone can clear it up by revealing Espresso or Maniac
Im banishing my brain, it's fox ep maniac sulit.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:13 pm
by foodcoats
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:13 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:11 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:08 pm
Honestly i think they're both scum and emc was doc and they're going for dubs.
I am actually quite open to this idea, but please see my above post. As much as I hate to, I think we’re best delaying the Maniac question for another day until the Mind Stone can clear it up by revealing Espresso or Maniac
Im banishing my brain, it's fox ep maniac sulit.
They are the scummiest players over 8 phases.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:17 pm
by damo666
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:03 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:24 pm
##unvote

pointless voting Maniac now because if he is doc he dies tonight (in which case sorry Maniac) and we lynch EP tomorrow.

We must vote outside EP Maniac.

##vote sulit
No they RB him and kill you or Jaime.

Good point. We can't wait because they RB whoever is doc and kill Jamie. Problem is I dunno which way to jump.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:18 pm
by Chaqa
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:13 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:11 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:08 pm
Honestly i think they're both scum and emc was doc and they're going for dubs.
I am actually quite open to this idea, but please see my above post. As much as I hate to, I think we’re best delaying the Maniac question for another day until the Mind Stone can clear it up by revealing Espresso or Maniac
Im banishing my brain, it's fox ep maniac sulit.
Oh shit, you might be right on 3/4 of this for sure. Here’s what I’m thinking:

If EMC was the Doctor, and mafia knew this somehow, they would janitor AND roleblock him to ensure a kill as the doctor is most likely to self-save in night 1. This would leave Fox free to claim RB and get towncred, and let Maniac/E.P. Both claim doctor.

We need a little more to lock onto this theory for sure, but it’s not the most impossible thing.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:20 pm
by foodcoats
Also we can't clear both of them with the stone

Hang maniac scan EP

I think Fox is some nonRB role, would claim RB so if we ever scanned the RB Fox would look better and get a pass

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:21 pm
by damo666
damo666 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:17 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:03 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:24 pm
##unvote

pointless voting Maniac now because if he is doc he dies tonight (in which case sorry Maniac) and we lynch EP tomorrow.

We must vote outside EP Maniac.

##vote sulit
No they RB him and kill you or Jaime.

Good point. We can't wait because they RB whoever is doc and kill Jamie. Problem is I dunno which way to jump.
I forgot about mind Stone. Perhaps we can wait. Join me on sulit and hope he hasn't got Mind stone.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:24 pm
by damo666
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:20 pm
Also we can't clear both of them with the stone

Hang maniac scan EP

I think Fox is some nonRB role, would claim RB so if we ever scanned the RB Fox would look better and get a pass
Whoever has mind stone picks one to reveal. If reveal is scum mindstone the other at first opportunity.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:30 pm
by foodcoats
damo666 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:24 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:20 pm
Also we can't clear both of them with the stone

Hang maniac scan EP

I think Fox is some nonRB role, would claim RB so if we ever scanned the RB Fox would look better and get a pass
Whoever has mind stone picks one to reveal. If reveal is scum mindstone the other at first opportunity.
It's a problem of tempo.

We must hang one doc and scan the other. Otherwise we get one kill/clear but either must trust the other or wait to scan the survivor. Then we're scanning both doc claimants rather than other suspects.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:31 pm
by Chaqa
I went back and reread every single one of EMC’s posts twice. IMO, there is absolutely nothing hinting at him being the Doctor or anything that could be used by the Reality Stone to reveal he’s the doctor.

Based on this, I’m tossing the Maniac and Espresso are both scum theory out the window, and giving Foxcastle a soft town clear in my head. As well as that, I think knowing now that Damo is Gamora, my reasoning for clearing Rivera from
SK is misplace. Current read:

Scum: Sulit, Maniac, Foodcoats, KalEl/Kitsune
SK: Rivera

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:31 pm
by foodcoats
Obviously losing the doctor sucks if we hang the wrong one but neither EP nor Maniac has played protown. EP for gallivanting away at every opportunity and defending rather than hunting and maniac for sowing endless confusion.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:32 pm
by Chaqa
I wasn’t sure to sheep Damo but having come up with some logical reasons of my own I’m down to stay on Sulit.

The unfortunate thing is due to the space stone, we do need to hammer all of our lynches from here on. It sucks.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:34 pm
by foodcoats
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:31 pm
I went back and reread every single one of EMC’s posts twice. IMO, there is absolutely nothing hinting at him being the Doctor or anything that could be used by the Reality Stone to reveal he’s the doctor.

Based on this, I’m tossing the Maniac and Espresso are both scum theory out the window, and giving Foxcastle a soft town clear in my head. As well as that, I think knowing now that Damo is Gamora, my reasoning for clearing Rivera from
SK is misplace. Current read:

Scum: Sulit, Maniac, Foodcoats, KalEl/Kitsune
SK: Rivera
Think about their play at a higher level not just mechanics and details. Scum can get lucky, we did when we got PR Vecna N1 in Neph's game for example.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:36 pm
by foodcoats
Obviously I could be totally off but scum NK'd me N1 for playing intuitively in the gladiator game, i should've done the same here and railed fox D1, i can't believe i let that go

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:36 pm
by Chaqa
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:34 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:31 pm
I went back and reread every single one of EMC’s posts twice. IMO, there is absolutely nothing hinting at him being the Doctor or anything that could be used by the Reality Stone to reveal he’s the doctor.

Based on this, I’m tossing the Maniac and Espresso are both scum theory out the window, and giving Foxcastle a soft town clear in my head. As well as that, I think knowing now that Damo is Gamora, my reasoning for clearing Rivera from
SK is misplace. Current read:

Scum: Sulit, Maniac, Foodcoats, KalEl/Kitsune
SK: Rivera
Think about their play at a higher level not just mechanics and details. Scum can get lucky, we did when we got PR Vecna N1 in Neph's game for example.
That’s because I picked up on Vecna being a PR, it wasn’t random.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:37 pm
by Jamiet99uk
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:36 pm
Obviously I could be totally off but scum NK'd me N1 for playing intuitively in the gladiator game, i should've done the same here and railed fox D1, i can't believe i let that go
Scumslip.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:37 pm
by foodcoats
##VOTE Maniac

I think this is better than sulit because this doc question needs to get solved and it can't be without a lynch, if we wait another cycle to clear both with the stone it's probably too late

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:47 pm
by damo666
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:37 pm
##VOTE Maniac

I think this is better than sulit because this doc question needs to get solved and it can't be without a lynch, if we wait another cycle to clear both with the stone it's probably too late
Why Maniac rather than EP?

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:49 pm
by Foxcastle
Sorry all, I’m out of town on a hiking trip this weekend. Limited engagement but trying to keep up.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:52 pm
by foodcoats
damo666 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:47 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:37 pm
##VOTE Maniac

I think this is better than sulit because this doc question needs to get solved and it can't be without a lynch, if we wait another cycle to clear both with the stone it's probably too late
Why Maniac rather than EP?
I believe EP more. EP should be scanned.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:02 pm
by Chaqa
This looks like Foodcoats collapsing under pressure. Maybe I was wrong about him.

I think anyone asking us to wait for scans at this point is disingenuous. The stone isn’t active again until Night 6.

Food, Sulit both def scum.

Last 2 in Maniac, Neph, KalEl, Kitsune.

Re: Neph and Kit - Kit warped Bunny our of the game and then Neph pushed HARD for his lynch. I wonder if they are teammates who thought Bunny to be a PR or the SK?