Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2461 Post by xorxes » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:08 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:56 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:46 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:36 pm


Neither rdrivera or brainbomb seem like very good choices either.
Why not? They both tend to live to the end game. He couldn't have anticipated they would become clears D1.
They both get lynched early sometimes as well.

OK. Maybe Chaqa doesn't know that, ask him.

Do you think it likely Chaqa is lying? Why would he do that as scum?

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#2462 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:08 pm

Chaqa prefers bozo to emc day 1. but lynches emc Day 2
bosox prefers emc day 1 but prefers chaqa day 2

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#2463 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:16 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:08 pm
Chaqa prefers bozo to emc day 1. but lynches emc Day 2
bosox prefers emc day 1 but prefers chaqa day 2
Chaqa had been one of my highest scumreads prior to his claim.

BoSox is one of my lowest scumreads. But he probably needs a second look.

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2464 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:18 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:08 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:56 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:46 pm


Why not? They both tend to live to the end game. He couldn't have anticipated they would become clears D1.
They both get lynched early sometimes as well.

OK. Maybe Chaqa doesn't know that, ask him.

Do you think it likely Chaqa is lying? Why would he do that as scum?
To avoid getting lynched.

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2465 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:27 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:02 pm
I'll not reveal who my lover is unless necessary to keep some chance of the two of us staying alive longer, but I'm sure someone could figure it out if they tried hard enough so...

The more I see from Bozo the more I dislike his play. I'll do a proper case (when did people start using the term ISO? I don't like it) on him today or tomorrow.
"ISO" and "case" do not mean the same things. ISO is short for isolated read - a read of that players posts in isolation. A case is a fully-argued reason why you scumread someone.

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#2466 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:27 pm

I voted for EMC out of self-preservation. As much as my lynch wouldn't be terrible for town, I'd still prefer to be alive than dead 99.9% of the time.

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2467 Post by xorxes » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:28 pm

Let's see what we have:

Clears:
Brainbomb
Rdrivera
Foxcastle
ItsHosuke

Roughly towniest to scummiest:

Xorxes
Chaqa
Damo
Worcej
Bozo
Foodcoats
Percy
Vapor
Bo_sox
Dargo
Espresso
Flash
Jamiet

So I guess my new entry is:

Jamiet-Flash-Espresso-Dargo-Bo

But I can see Vapor and/or Percy replacing someone there. I haven't really checked much for connections or inconsistencies yet.

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2468 Post by Vaporwave » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:30 pm

flash compact summary:

D1
generic stuff: traditional vote on bomb and scolding rivera for revealing too early

N1 offers a plausible excuse for his absence (rest and get healthy, flash) mentions being happy to join a bo wagon because bo pressured rivera to shoot
says sorry for keeping a random vote on bomb, believes Hosuke's claim, asks some questions

wonders why Fox hasn't advocated no-lynch D1

D2
votes Percy when that quick wagon happened early D2

asks Jamiet for context and is puzzled why he votes for Chaqa
scolds Percy for his vote

gets on Chaqa because there are no other viable wagons

is amazed that these are TvT

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2469 Post by Vaporwave » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:31 pm

I think Flash's content has no meat or potatoes

it's a soup without condiments

very safe

flash you've mentioned boredom, yet you don't expand much

Now's the time

It's impossible to towlean you based on your ISO

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#2470 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:31 pm

Hi Xorxes,

I'm town. Your read on me is sadly very wrong.

I'd offer to bet, but that's not really allowed now, is it?


Yours sincerely,

Jamie T

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#2471 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:33 pm

have we verified that fox and hosuke are real?
I saw fox mentioning kiwi pretty early just curious

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2472 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:34 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:31 pm
Hi Xorxes,

I'm town. Your read on me is sadly very wrong.

I'd offer to bet, but that's not really allowed now, is it?


Yours sincerely,

Jamie T
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tell jmo yer a bad widdle boy?

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2473 Post by xorxes » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:34 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:18 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:08 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:56 pm


They both get lynched early sometimes as well.

OK. Maybe Chaqa doesn't know that, ask him.

Do you think it likely Chaqa is lying? Why would he do that as scum?
To avoid getting lynched.
What use is avoiding getting lynched for a couple of days but condemning himself for later?

I suppose if they have the Lover as a fakeclaim they might as well burn it on someone that will be lynched anyway, so I suppose I can see a case for that. I still believe Chaqa though. Claim and the way he played it seems genuine.

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#2474 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:36 pm

well, scum like to lynch town. so theres likely a scum who tried to get emc on try 2. and a scum who tried to get emc on try 1.

maybe not both tries.

Espresso im lookin right at you buddy. 2 times on emc. any thoughts here?

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#2475 Post by xorxes » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:39 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:31 pm
Hi Xorxes,

I'm town. Your read on me is sadly very wrong.

I'd offer to bet, but that's not really allowed now, is it?


Yours sincerely,

Jamie T
I may very well be wrong. My read of you is mostly from that purportedly drunk post and your reaction after being voted, but I will reread the whole thing.

Could you do a sort of the unclears like I did?

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#2476 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:40 pm

flash certainly seems like scum in ISO and behavior.


flash2015
Day-2 25:06
page 96 / orig Why couldn't the scum team be something like Percy, bo, Xorxes, emc, worcej?

flash2015
Day-2 02:37
page 111 / orig I am not really keen on the ItsHosuke wagon...so I will have to find another wagon before the end of the day.

Why is there a wagon on Chaqa again
Flash took particular concern to me saying that espresso, worxej and vapor were scum.

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#2477 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:41 pm

seems like flash knew hosuke was town before he shouldve

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#2478 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:42 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:31 pm
Hi Xorxes,

I'm town. Your read on me is sadly very wrong.

I'd offer to bet, but that's not really allowed now, is it?


Yours sincerely,

Jamie T
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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2479 Post by EspressoPatronum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:42 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:36 pm
well, scum like to lynch town. so theres likely a scum who tried to get emc on try 2. and a scum who tried to get emc on try 1.

maybe not both tries.

Espresso im lookin right at you buddy. 2 times on emc. any thoughts here?
3 reasons:
1. I thought he was scum. His claim wasn't verifiable + his lurker play was scummy.
2. He was the best person to die in a mislynch situation. Failing #1, his anti-town play was worth cutting now bcz it wasn't going to help us late game.
3. The other two wagons were Hosuke and Chaqa... I didn't want either of them dead.

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2480 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:43 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:34 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:18 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:08 pm


OK. Maybe Chaqa doesn't know that, ask him.

Do you think it likely Chaqa is lying? Why would he do that as scum?
To avoid getting lynched.
What use is avoiding getting lynched for a couple of days but condemning himself for later?

I suppose if they have the Lover as a fakeclaim they might as well burn it on someone that will be lynched anyway, so I suppose I can see a case for that. I still believe Chaqa though. Claim and the way he played it seems genuine.
I see you answered your own question for me. If that was one of the fake scum roles someone had to take it, especially if you, damo, and Percy had already taken three of the other fake roles.

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