Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

This is wrong because thinking Hosuke was scum was dumb. What scum comes into game and jokes away their fake claim?

A newbie.

[bozotheclown]

Hosuke obviously should not have claimed when he did as town or scum, I think it was a mistake he made as a new player. However, he was much more likely to mistakenly claim his real role as town than mistakenly fake claim a role as scum. However, even if you did not believe Hosuke, there was no reason to push it D2.

I agree, that's how I started D2.

I changed my mind when it became the only option (in my mind at the time) to save damo and Percy.

I don't think outing Fox was a huge deal, and the gains from catching scum Hosuke was worth the risk of outing the second mason.

This is wrong because thinking Hosuke was scum was dumb. What scum comes into game and jokes away their fake claim?

I agree. I think both Hosuke's claim and emc's claim were more believable than Percy's claim and damo's claim.

[Foxcastle]

This is wrong because thinking Hosuke was scum was dumb. What scum comes into game and jokes away their fake claim?

A newbie.

Not even.

[Foxcastle]

I'm excited to push Xorxes from here on out. This is not town play.

[bozotheclown]

I believe he is the lover too. But he better die with one of the obvious next few kills, or else he becomes a suspect. At least I can take him out of the lynch pool.

Why do you believe Chaqa when you did not believe emc was the tree stump? And why do you and damo agree on everything this game?

I believe Chaqa because he said he will die soon. If he doesn't die with rivera or brainbomb (or perhaps with myself but then it won't be an issue I will have to deal with) then I will suspect him. But I believe him for now.

I doubt he would be my lover because he probably chose someone who usually lives long and that's not me. rivera would be my best guess but could be brainbomb.

Neither rdrivera or brainbomb seem like very good choices either.

[Percy Williams]

I've made it to the flip, shame about lynching EMC, but I hope we can use it to refocus on catching scum (i.e. Bozo).

[xorxes]

A clear on Day 5 is nice. A clear on Day 6 is nicer.

Yes, and I will take part of the blame for outing you. You may want to take part of the blame as well, maybe you could do nothing to make Hosuke participate more effectively, but maybe you could have offered me some other options to save Percy and damo than pushing Hosuke. I did not do what you wanted but you did not do what I wanted either.

What is this? No. Just no. There's no way I'm to blame for you spending your time pushing a mason claim to defend Percy and Damo's claim. I'm not your mafia mommy telling you how to go find scum. You don't get your reputation by needing hand-holding to go find scum. And I did suggest you go find other scum rather than spending your time defending Percy and Damo. The only person to blame for not taking my advice is you.

You're practically a clear, so I'm not going to spend a lot of time arguing with you. I've said my piece about what I did and why.

If you think I'm scum, lynch me. I'm the innocent child. You will be doing scum a huge favor.

If you think damo is scum, go ahead and lynch him. I think you will be doing scum a huge favor.

If you think Percy is scum, lynch him. You may be right. I'm much less sure about Percy than about damo. If your're wrong, you will be doing scum a huge favor.

If those are your only scumreads, or the strongest with no other options, go ahead and lynch one of those. Now that you are a clear I probably won't be able to stop you and if you are right you are right.

[brainbomb]

Okay well, good luck guys.
I have never been in a game where I caught zero scum.

But I guess ive failed miserably

[Vaporwave]

I've made it to the flip, shame about lynching EMC, but I hope we can use it to refocus on catching scum (i.e. Bozo).

I love how this game is full of derping

pls update your list for me, I'm on board with bozo

what do you think about Jamie?

[xorxes]

Why do you believe Chaqa when you did not believe emc was the tree stump? And why do you and damo agree on everything this game?

I believe Chaqa because he said he will die soon. If he doesn't die with rivera or brainbomb (or perhaps with myself but then it won't be an issue I will have to deal with) then I will suspect him. But I believe him for now.

I doubt he would be my lover because he probably chose someone who usually lives long and that's not me. rivera would be my best guess but could be brainbomb.

Neither rdrivera or brainbomb seem like very good choices either.

Why not? They both tend to live to the end game. He couldn't have anticipated they would become clears D1.

[xorxes]

I've made it to the flip, shame about lynching EMC, but I hope we can use it to refocus on catching scum (i.e. Bozo).

Can you explain the case on bozo?

Something that is bothering me about you Percy is that you don't seem very interested in finding out who is which role. I think when you are town you are always trying to figure out who the PRs are. What happened this time?

[Percy Williams]

I've made it to the flip, shame about lynching EMC, but I hope we can use it to refocus on catching scum (i.e. Bozo).

I love how this game is full of derping

pls update your list for me, I'm on board with bozo

what do you think about Jamie?

I've been on the fence about Jamiet, give me a moment to do an ISO on him. Here's a more current read list:

Town
Rdriver
Brainbomb
EMC
Damo
Itshosuke
Foxcastle
Chaqa


Scum
Bozotheclown


I know I didn't add more scum yet, but I did add more Town.

[bozotheclown]

I can understand they may seem obvious to you because you knew (presumably) that Hosuke is town. From the point of view of someone who didn't know Hosuke was town, they don't seem obvious at all.

And what is the scum motivation of forcing you to reveal? Do you really think scum care that much who the other mason was when they already have a long list of others to kill anyway?

A clear on Day 5 is nice. A clear on Day 6 is nicer.

Yes, and I will take part of the blame for outing you. You may want to take part of the blame as well, maybe you could do nothing to make Hosuke participate more effectively, but maybe you could have offered me some other options to save Percy and damo than pushing Hosuke. I did not do what you wanted but you did not do what I wanted either.

I gave you another option to save Percy and damo by getting the Chaqa wagon going. You posted at a time when the vote was Hosuke 4, Chaqa 3, Percy 2, damo 2. Why didn't you change your vote from Hosuke to Chaqa at that time, if the only reason you were voting for Hosuke was because you thought he was the only "real" option to save Percy and damo?

[bozotheclown]

I believe Chaqa because he said he will die soon. If he doesn't die with rivera or brainbomb (or perhaps with myself but then it won't be an issue I will have to deal with) then I will suspect him. But I believe him for now.

I doubt he would be my lover because he probably chose someone who usually lives long and that's not me. rivera would be my best guess but could be brainbomb.

Neither rdrivera or brainbomb seem like very good choices either.

Why not? They both tend to live to the end game. He couldn't have anticipated they would become clears D1.

They both get lynched early sometimes as well.

[Foxcastle]

Why did Dargo basically drop off the face of the earth for D2. Minimum effort.

[bozotheclown]

I've made it to the flip, shame about lynching EMC, but I hope we can use it to refocus on catching scum (i.e. Bozo).

I love how this game is full of derping

pls update your list for me, I'm on board with bozo

what do you think about Jamie?

I've been on the fence about Jamiet, give me a moment to do an ISO on him. Here's a more current read list:

Town
Rdriver
Brainbomb
EMC
Damo
Itshosuke
Foxcastle
Chaqa


Scum
Bozotheclown


I know I didn't add more scum yet, but I did add more Town.

If you list 4 more scum I can include you in the tabulation.

[xorxes]

I've been on the fence about Jamiet, give me a moment to do an ISO on him. Here's a more current read list:

Town
Rdriver
Brainbomb
EMC
Damo
Itshosuke
Foxcastle
Chaqa


Scum
Bozotheclown


I know I didn't add more scum yet, but I did add more Town.

The green ones are not reads, those are clears (or will be soon). Chaqa is in my mind almost a clear as well because of his verifiable claim.

So really you have one townread and one scumread. I agree with the townread, disagree with the scumread.

[Chaqa]

I'll not reveal who my lover is unless necessary to keep some chance of the two of us staying alive longer, but I'm sure someone could figure it out if they tried hard enough so...

The more I see from Bozo the more I dislike his play. I'll do a proper case (when did people start using the term ISO? I don't like it) on him today or tomorrow.

[xorxes]

Yes, and I will take part of the blame for outing you. You may want to take part of the blame as well, maybe you could do nothing to make Hosuke participate more effectively, but maybe you could have offered me some other options to save Percy and damo than pushing Hosuke. I did not do what you wanted but you did not do what I wanted either.

I gave you another option to save Percy and damo by getting the Chaqa wagon going. You posted at a time when the vote was Hosuke 4, Chaqa 3, Percy 2, damo 2. Why didn't you change your vote from Hosuke to Chaqa at that time, if the only reason you were voting for Hosuke was because you thought he was the only "real" option to save Percy and damo?

By that time I was very interested in sorting out the mason issue, because I had convinced myself that all the fishy business was because Hosuke was scum and we were not going to have a second mason come out. I had lost by then my strong townread of Fox that I had had D1.

[brainbomb]

Chaqa
Night-1 24:00
page 59 / orig ##vote bozo
Page 61 : g=47&part=Night%201&user=Chaqa

Chaqa
Night-1 23:39
page 61 / orig I was just following Rivera’s lead. I had no clue I was causing a tie. My bad guys :/

Chaqa
Night-1 23:36
page 61 / orig Oh, vote stealing shenanigans. Let me reread this quick.

Wagon Day 1 Voters
e.m.c^42 (7) Foxcastle EspressoPatronum xorxes foodcoats bo_sox48 bozotheclown Vecna

bozotheclown (6)
worcej e.m.c^42 damo666 Percy Williams rdrivera2005 chaqa



Wagon Day 2 Voters
Wagon # Voters
e.m.c^42 (6) Foxcastle Jamiet99uk EspressoPatronum flash2015 xorxes Chaqa

Chaqa (5) bozotheclown rdrivera2005 Vaporwave foodcoats bo_sox48





EMC voters who did not vote him day 2
foodcoats
bo
bozo

Bozo voters Day 1 who are voting with bozo Day 2
None (Rivera)

Off wagon voters who were off wagon both days
dargorygel

EMC voters who did not vote him day 1 but joined day 2
Jamie
Flash
Chaqa