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This. So much this. Here we have a very articulate summary of the problem.foodcoats wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:10 pmGET.LADLE
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If the GMs of this game are banning a player they played with in the last game for playing against "the spirit of the game" in that game...
...but the GMs of the last game specifically approved the actions of the player in question, thusly making it officially not angleshooting or against the spirit of that game...
...are the GMs of this game the ones actually playing against "the spirit of the game?"
Okay, I am going to make a point here: This is why I was critical of you in the QT - you say rude stuff and provoke people with these snide remarks. If you don't like playing with several people here, go back to the other websites you bragged about awhile ago. Clearly they are not perfect because you're back here with us again.
This is what is happening right now.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:09 amAnd then the other half the guests also dont play because they like that dudeTom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 amThink of it like the GMs are the hosts of a party and a bunch of people are showing up to their house for the shindig. The hosts spend a bunch of time cleaning the house, cooking flavorful food and making sure everything is ready for a good party that everyone will enjoy.
Then they find out that half of the guests don’t like one guy who wants to come. They guy isn’t a felon or anything, he’s just unpleasant and rude to the other guests. The hosts don’t want their guests to have a bad time, or their party to be ruined, so they decide not to invite him. Maybe when Bob down the street hosts a party then Bob can invite whoever he wants.
So what are they gonna do?
I will tell you, abide by a central rule in Mafia, inclusivity.
You can't be mad when I crash your wedding then.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:40 pmThis is what is happening right now.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:09 amAnd then the other half the guests also dont play because they like that dudeTom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 amThink of it like the GMs are the hosts of a party and a bunch of people are showing up to their house for the shindig. The hosts spend a bunch of time cleaning the house, cooking flavorful food and making sure everything is ready for a good party that everyone will enjoy.
Then they find out that half of the guests don’t like one guy who wants to come. They guy isn’t a felon or anything, he’s just unpleasant and rude to the other guests. The hosts don’t want their guests to have a bad time, or their party to be ruined, so they decide not to invite him. Maybe when Bob down the street hosts a party then Bob can invite whoever he wants.
So what are they gonna do?
I will tell you, abide by a central rule in Mafia, inclusivity.
Instead of getting in the business of excluding people out of games, just include everyone. Blanket central rule. That way this nonsense doesn't happen
With the stories you would have, I'd let you crash it and even sleep with the maid of honor.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:43 pmYou can't be mad when I crash your wedding then.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:40 pmThis is what is happening right now.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:09 am
And then the other half the guests also dont play because they like that dude
So what are they gonna do?
I will tell you, abide by a central rule in Mafia, inclusivity.
Instead of getting in the business of excluding people out of games, just include everyone. Blanket central rule. That way this nonsense doesn't happen
Absolute fucking nonsense, Tom.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:43 pmYou can't be mad when I crash your wedding then.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:40 pmThis is what is happening right now.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:09 am
And then the other half the guests also dont play because they like that dude
So what are they gonna do?
I will tell you, abide by a central rule in Mafia, inclusivity.
Instead of getting in the business of excluding people out of games, just include everyone. Blanket central rule. That way this nonsense doesn't happen
I'm playing on more than one site dear. And this is really rich coming from you. Clearly I don't have to not play here cuz y'all are just quitting anyway.worcej wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:36 pmOkay, I am going to make a point here: This is why I was critical of you in the QT - you say rude stuff and provoke people with these snide remarks. If you don't like playing with several people here, go back to the other websites you bragged about awhile ago. Clearly they are not perfect because you're back here with us again.
Do you not like password protected dip games? Because its the same thing.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:48 pmAbsolute fucking nonsense, Tom.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:43 pmYou can't be mad when I crash your wedding then.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:40 pm
This is what is happening right now.
Instead of getting in the business of excluding people out of games, just include everyone. Blanket central rule. That way this nonsense doesn't happen
Weddings are invitational.
Are you saying webDip Mafia games should become invite-only? Only the GM's friends are allowed to play?
This is not what we should be aiming for.
I absolutely oppose invitational Mafia becoming the norm, damn right I do.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:51 pmDo you not like password protected dip games? Because its the same thing.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:48 pmAbsolute fucking nonsense, Tom.
Weddings are invitational.
Are you saying webDip Mafia games should become invite-only? Only the GM's friends are allowed to play?
This is not what we should be aiming for.
Call it invitational if you want, but I think the GMs have a right to exclude players when it causes other players to avoid the game because they want an enjoyable experience. There are plenty of mafia games here. And plenty of regular GMS that will allow him (you, ND, worcej, myself etc.)
It would be a pretty fundamental change to the way we've always done things in webDip Mafia...