Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

I find it unlikely that Damo or Connor are Ba. The Ba's Rincon is to be alive in the last three players. This means the Ba needs Things to be in balance, as they need the Town to need them, and need to make sure the Mafia don't win too quickly. Especially with all the Town players starting to hunt for Ba, the Ba has no reason to kill in Damo/Connor. Not doing so 1.occupies us as we decide which one to kill or both. 2. If combined with a Town kill, makes us need the BA, as us figuring it out means the Mafia know and can roadblock him, but if we need him to be able to kill Mafia to win, we won't root him out. I believe HE was killing someone they thought was town, but not choosing an actual Townclear, as they knew scum would lynch from that pile.

This is a pretty solid analysis on the situation.

[Percy Williams]

There are only three reasons BA would have killed Peter instead of damo/Connor.

1) Either damo or Connor is BA. They knew if they killed the other, they would be the lynch today.
2) The BA thought one of damo/Connor was mafia but not both, and was unsure which it was. They were more certain of Peter mafia than either damo or Connor
3) The BA is an idiot

I have my counter case above.

[Squigs44]

It's possible that BA tracked peterlund N1 and once I claimed IC they knew he was scum.

Yeah, although why would they kill TrPrado N2 then? I would think they would either kill Peter N2 or scan again, not kill someone they haven't scanned. I'm still thinking BA scanned TrPrado N1

[Squigs44]

I feel like it's really scummy that you're even saying this. It's totally wifom

It means they think you're a liability to town

Oh? Does it? Are you in their scum qt and have they told you that?

No, but why else would they leave you alive?

[Durga]

It's possible that BA tracked peterlund N1 and once I claimed IC they knew he was scum.

Yeah, although why would they kill TrPrado N2 then? I would think they would either kill Peter N2 or scan again, not kill someone they haven't scanned. I'm still thinking BA scanned TrPrado N1

Doesn't really matter either way.

[Durga]

It means they think you're a liability to town

Oh? Does it? Are you in their scum qt and have they told you that?

No, but why else would they leave you alive?

For people to say this kind of stuff and disregard my reads obviously.

Secondly, I'm sure me fighting with Chippe is bringing them great joy. I'm not sure I'd kill me either.

##vote Foxcastle

[FlaviusAetius]

Wtf just happened?

Why did they kill Neph over Durga?
Why did BA kill Peter?
Why is Flav completely disregarding the fact that damo and Connor both claimed RB yesterday?

Is one of damo/Connor BA?

:shrugs: didnt see it

[Foxcastle]

I like Percy's analysis of BA killing Peterlund.

Also, if you think I'm scum, you should now consider how I supported the possibility of a policy lynch on MF on Day 1. It doesn't clear me of course, but you should take into account.

##VOTE DAMO

[Squigs44]

I find it unlikely that Damo or Connor are Ba. The Ba's Rincon is to be alive in the last three players. This means the Ba needs Things to be in balance, as they need the Town to need them, and need to make sure the Mafia don't win too quickly. Especially with all the Town players starting to hunt for Ba, the Ba has no reason to kill in Damo/Connor. Not doing so 1.occupies us as we decide which one to kill or both. 2. If combined with a Town kill, makes us need the BA, as us figuring it out means the Mafia know and can roadblock him, but if we need him to be able to kill Mafia to win, we won't root him out. I believe HE was killing someone they thought was town, but not choosing an actual Townclear, as they knew scum would lynch from that pile.

You think BA was trying to kill town? Town is losing, so that would unbalance it. The keeping town occupied argument actually makes sense though

[Squigs44]

##vote damo

[Foxcastle]

Okay I think the only thing that explains Fox's self vote at EoD was if he was setting up for Teacon to be mislynched after Fox was lynched. I can't fathom why else he would do that.

Actually, I was tunneling on Teacon without a good enough reason, but I kept my vote on him because it was important to have an EOD worth analyzing. We'd already lost D2 to the judge, I didn't want to lose useful data from D3 with an easy Xorxes pile-on that would have resulted in less information.

[Percy Williams]

I find it unlikely that Damo or Connor are Ba. The Ba's Rincon is to be alive in the last three players. This means the Ba needs Things to be in balance, as they need the Town to need them, and need to make sure the Mafia don't win too quickly. Especially with all the Town players starting to hunt for Ba, the Ba has no reason to kill in Damo/Connor. Not doing so 1.occupies us as we decide which one to kill or both. 2. If combined with a Town kill, makes us need the BA, as us figuring it out means the Mafia know and can roadblock him, but if we need him to be able to kill Mafia to win, we won't root him out. I believe HE was killing someone they thought was town, but not choosing an actual Townclear, as they knew scum would lynch from that pile.

You think BA was trying to kill town? Town is losing, so that would unbalance it. The keeping town occupied argument actually makes sense though

I think the Ba would want it temporarily unbalanced against Town, that way we NEED the BA to win. Kind of a "shoot me, and the TNT strapped to me goes off." situation.

[Squigs44]

I find it unlikely that Damo or Connor are Ba. The Ba's Rincon is to be alive in the last three players. This means the Ba needs Things to be in balance, as they need the Town to need them, and need to make sure the Mafia don't win too quickly. Especially with all the Town players starting to hunt for Ba, the Ba has no reason to kill in Damo/Connor. Not doing so 1.occupies us as we decide which one to kill or both. 2. If combined with a Town kill, makes us need the BA, as us figuring it out means the Mafia know and can roadblock him, but if we need him to be able to kill Mafia to win, we won't root him out. I believe HE was killing someone they thought was town, but not choosing an actual Townclear, as they knew scum would lynch from that pile.

You think BA was trying to kill town? Town is losing, so that would unbalance it. The keeping town occupied argument actually makes sense though

I think the Ba would want it temporarily unbalanced against Town, that way we NEED the BA to win. Kind of a "shoot me, and the TNT strapped to me goes off." situation.

That's really not optimal for the BA, but idk what the BA was thinking or what situation the BA is in. I think I was wrong and neither damo nor Connor are BA though, so the BAs motives don't matter much right now.

[Percy Williams]

I'm going to ##VOTE Damo
One of Damo/Connor is scum, and Damo's looking a whole lot worse.

[connorcompton]

me and damo possibilities:

1. We're both Mafia, so neither are BA.

2. One is Mafia, the other was roleblocked town.
In that case, no, not BA.

3. One is roleblocked town, the other is fake rb-claiming BA.
Then the Mafia would know who BA is, and roleblock them. Not Possible

3. One is mafia, the other is fake rb-claiming BA.
Then the Mafia would know who BA is, and roleblock them. Not Possible.

Not necessarily. Mafia could have held their RB on a town/BA scenario to try to have the BA kill town then get lynched. This is unlikely, but so are the other scenarios.

So:

5) One is roleblocked town, the other is fake rb-claiming BA.
The Mafia know who the BA is, they're not killing them yet.

Still think 2's most likely. I'm putting 93.5% on that.

[Percy Williams]

@Foxcastle can we get a new spreadsheet removing Durga, and calculating for three scum? Or are you out of good omens episodes ?

[Foxcastle]

@Foxcastle can we get a new spreadsheet removing Durga, and calculating for three scum? Or are you out of good omens episodes ?

I am beginning to think you could be scum, Percy.

[Percy Williams]

@Foxcastle can we get a new spreadsheet removing Durga, and calculating for three scum? Or are you out of good omens episodes ?

I am beginning to think you could be scum, Percy.

Wow, as soon as I show up and start participating, finally giving my town team the help they need, and get scum read for pulling my own weight!

[Durga]

Right so... Do you have any words of defence damo

[Durga]

##vote damo