Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Foxcastle]

foxcastle, xorx, squigs, and 2-3 of the 4 "nulls" from above. Neph is a special case that I don't know how to handle, but he's on the team when I put together a scumteam in my head, he's on it. .

Who do you think TrP scanned on N1?

[Nephthys]

Neph, here are the Damo posts around where you read him as town. I don't really see what you see. He has mostly avoided the game, and constantly says he is not caught up. I don't think that his slight participation is very readable at all. That may be NAI, but I don't see how you can townread him for it.

Why would a VT EP encourage et to claim?

If et town claims (irrelevant if true or not) EP is lynched and et presumably NKd.

If et is scum and claims EP still gets lynched and et escapes until the real PR cc thus exposing their identity.

How can this be good play from vt EP?

I suppose it could bad vt play from EP but then he deserves to be lynched imo.

How surprisingly Damo and Prado think alike.....

It could be scum v scum but then it hardly matters does it?

In this artificial 1v1 set up where the most likely situation is Town v Town then yes.

You're suggesting End is wrong here? It's 1v1. The End wouldn't come into play until sufficient votes. I don't see what's wrong with it.

Oh alright then ##UNEND while it's evenly balanced.

I must say that I think it's weird that those not having voted by the Judge call cannot vote no lynch whereas those having already voted can just sit back and not vote effectively voting for no lynch.


Either no lynch should be an option or everybody should have to vote for one of the two.

Yeah prob a bit unfair to change the rules midstream but it seems a bit unfair that no lynch is not possible. Could try and tie it I suppose. Anyway GMs have made their decision. I just wanted to moan.

Guys, its a miracle,

I'm actually caught up!!

Yeah when you miss a chunk it's a nightmare getting back up to date.

True. It was mainly the first post. I just found the logic very clear to follow. Perhaps I was pre-emptive on my town read of him.

[Squigs44]

Xorxes I made a short post about Percy's play, with the conclusion that Percy is not the best lynch today. Convince me I'm wrong.

[teacon7]

I like how xorx shows up when he's got votes on him. classy guy.

I'm still waiting for an explanation for why we shouldn't vote foxcastle today (durga? hello? why not?). That was one of my last thoughts for yesterday and I still think he'd be a fine lynch. I like either him or xorx for a lynch today.

##vote foxcastle

I'd gonna be annoying if connor gets modkilled for not posting. I'd understand it on a personal level (it's a big game; he's new), but it's frustrating for the game. I guess if he's scum it'd be okay. It's not like we have any way of knowing though.

@peter: what do you make of moscow's play? Were you surprised to find out your alignment?

@xorxes - why are you so subdued this game?

[xorxes]

Besides the timing of EOD, Xorxes, why do you think your play has been so different from previous games?

The huge volume day one that kept me catching up from behind most of the time. The judge day two that meant we had to choose between two town (unless et is scum, which is still possible).

[Nephthys]

I don't understand this discussion between Neph and Percy. What is Percy talking about? What is he hiding?

He stated him asking about PRs was to confuse scum.
He said that when they were all dead he would explain.
I asked him to elaborate on it now as only the inno is left (they should claim imo)
He stated it related specifically to the inno

I find this odd. Especially as it was so long ago and there are two other PRs in the open. I don't see what we have to lose by him elaborating, especially as its mylo

[Foxcastle]

I think we can catch scum today, after which we might have a shot at carving out another day for a mislynch. At which point we might need to mislynch me. But a better play might be for Balki to kill me once we have the room to do it. Otherwise, scum is just keeping me around for the doubt factor later in the game.

[Nephthys]

You're not the innocent child. If you are, you should absolutely reveal because you are under a lot of suspicion and this isn't helping.

Secondly, the scum team isn't going to kill the innocent child for a long time. So you're not harming them.

Thirdly, please explain what you're talking about regarding the thing you're hiding. Stop hiding it.

Please @ whoever this is to. Innocent Child should absolutely not reveal, because if they did, than that confirms Neph is either scum or Judge - which is certainly not in town's best interests (unless Balki turns out to be scum). Though the Innocent Child won't get killed in a very long time, there are still other consequences to him revealing.

m8 I'll out myself and have already, I'm the fucking judge.

[Foxcastle]

I think we can catch scum today, after which we might have a shot at carving out another day for a mislynch. At which point we might need to mislynch me. But a better play might be for Balki to kill me once we have the room to do it. Otherwise, scum is just keeping me around for the doubt factor later in the game.

Oops, meant to make this a direct response to teacon above.

[Nephthys]

Did teacon actually just put me as scum...

[ChippeRock]

I like how xorx shows up when he's got votes on him. classy guy.

I'm still waiting for an explanation for why we shouldn't vote foxcastle today (durga? hello? why not?). That was one of my last thoughts for yesterday and I still think he'd be a fine lynch. I like either him or xorx for a lynch today.

##vote foxcastle

I'd gonna be annoying if connor gets modkilled for not posting. I'd understand it on a personal level (it's a big game; he's new), but it's frustrating for the game. I guess if he's scum it'd be okay. It's not like we have any way of knowing though.

@peter: what do you make of moscow's play? Were you surprised to find out your alignment?

@xorxes - why are you so subdued this game?

@teacon, as I recall peter already answered your question (at least the 2nd one). It's very surprising you don't know this...

[Nephthys]

##vote xorxes

[ChippeRock]

Did teacon actually just put me as scum...

It's not a horrible read, you're either town PR or scum PR - guess which one is statistically more likely?

[xorxes]

Whythough? Please Explain how chippe seems scummy.

Percy, do you think Chippe sincerely believes he can proove he is a VT, do you think he was reaction testing, something else?

I believe he either
1.believes he can prove he is VT,
2. is Town Pr trying to Make Scum believe he is VT (which depending on his role could make one other player inclined to promote that image)
3.or is the Blind assasin, trying to keep everyone off his case.

This is the post that got me started on Percy.

He seems to know that Chippe is not scum. Apparently Chip's behavior shows he can't be scum, but could be BA.

[Nephthys]

Did teacon actually just put me as scum...

It's not a horrible read, you're either town PR or scum PR - guess which one is statistically more likely?

If I'm alive tomorrow I can mechanically clear myself. I am not a discussion topic today and anyone who tries to discuss me is scum until proven otherwise.

[ChippeRock]

Did teacon actually just put me as scum...

It's not a horrible read, you're either town PR or scum PR - guess which one is statistically more likely?

If I'm alive tomorrow I can mechanically clear myself. I am not a discussion topic today and anyone who tries to discuss me is scum until proven otherwise.

Why can't you be a discussion topic? Why is anybody that tries discussion you instantly become scummy? What the fuck is your logic here??

[ND]

So I have been doing a bit of catching up today. I wouldn’t lynch Balki today and there has been a strong counter argument (to my argument about Fox) to Fox backed by some evidence. It doesn’t rule him out totally, but I personally am not going to consider him further today.

That leave some of my previous scumreads: ET, Conner, Xorxes. A few others to a lesser extent Teacon, Moscow(Peter), and Flav/Chippie. I think that one of Flav or Chippie has to be scum. I have noted Flav and what I argue to be buddying attempts previously. I am leaning way more towards Flav than Chippie though. Teacon is different this game. Totally different than M1007 when I solidly townread him. Peter hasn’t done much. ET has been very scummy imo I've pointed this out in my re-read of him and his behavior since isn't town indicative at all. Conner is no where to be seen. Xorxes has been playing a quiet game and others have pointed out his play.

I am going to consider each of those players before voting. So, that’s basically my thinking and where I am at right now. I'm not going to be hasty about this considering the position we are in. It's time for me to re-read these candidates and the game.

[Nephthys]

It's not a horrible read, you're either town PR or scum PR - guess which one is statistically more likely?

If I'm alive tomorrow I can mechanically clear myself. I am not a discussion topic today and anyone who tries to discuss me is scum until proven otherwise.

Why can't you be a discussion topic? Why is anybody that tries discussion you instantly become scummy? What the fuck is your logic here??

I am the judge.

Tomorrow I can use my power.

I state who it will be before I use it.

GM announces the two candidates.

That mechanically confirms me as the judge.

Why would you waste time discussing me now. Balki has stated that I ama PR and I have confirmed this. If I am not the judge then the real judge will use their power and I will be a candidate and be lynched.

You are wasting time if you discuss lynching me today.

[teacon7]

@peter: what do you make of moscow's play? Were you surprised to find out your alignment?

@teacon, as I recall peter already answered your question (at least the 2nd one). It's very surprising you don't know this...

I still haven't read the part where peter subbed in. It's likely he talked about it there? I've got like ~70 pages of reading to catch up on.

[teacon7]

Neph - Discussing it isn't scummy. It might be a waste of time, but it's not scummy. I did say I wasn't going to lynch you today, and I also said that you weren't confirmed as anything until mechanically cleared. Chippe's right in this: you're statistically more likely to be scumPR than townPR.