Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Fox, @Squigs, @Durga: If you have questions for me, please ask now. I won't be here for EOD and the ~18 hours leading to it, so we better get it out of the way soon.

Why you so scared?

[Nephthys]

I'm only on page 105 in my catch up so far, but I promised questions:
1. Did Trprado's analysis on you and the accompanying questions make sense? or were there a lot of false assumptions in it?
2.Who all is using new reading methods? If you are, please share if it doesn't ruin the method.
3. Has anyone been posting full reads lists (Besides TrPrado)? I feel like we should do that...

This is trying to fit in 101. Any townperson would read the last 15 pages before contributing. Things can change quickly and to do things just because theyve been promised...

Any Townsperson with TIME would. I was unexpectedly busy for the past couple days.Also as a Town, I don't want to make promises I don't keep as that makes me suspicious looking, and a Town gets lynched. I also wanted these questions to restructure the way we're looking at the game, to try and make some headway.

@Foxcastle, I know it looks like I'm publicly Pr hunting but I'm not. I would explain what I'm doing to actually confuse the Scum team, but that would obviously ruin it, and give scum a lot of helpful information. After the game I'd be happy to explain myself( Or if all Prs die).

@Percy, theres only one left now. Wanna share?

It's about one of the town Prs left, sooo no.

You originally stated you would only do it when they were all dead now it only relates to the one left? That's scummy af

[Percy Williams]

Scum team:

Xorxes, Flavius, Damo, ND, teacon, and maybe et?

I think that holds up.

Why et? He has seemed really town this game to me, albeit due to language barrier, a little hard to understand sometimes.

[Nephthys]

Nice to see xorx has neither evolved, nor managed to convince us of lynching his ONE scum read.

because yes, i totally buy that town xorx has one scum read that he hasn't immensely tunnelled and pushed.

that being said

@neph damo got caught IMMEDIATELY as scum last game. i'm willing to bet he's decided lurking is a better option for him

Fair, I still want your interpretation of when I shifted him to town.

i don't understand what you're asking of me

ISO me. At some stage I posted damo was hard town. Look at the posts he made just prior to that and tell me what you think.

I would do it but I'm on mobile

[Balki Bartokomous]

Scum team:

Xorxes, Flavius, Damo, ND, teacon, and maybe et?

I think that holds up.

Why et? He has seemed really town this game to me, albeit due to language barrier, a little hard to understand sometimes.

I'm just trying to fill a full team. It's process of elimination. I didn't think ND was scum either, but I'm not sure why I mentally lumped him with town other than his participation in the ALL CAPS yell off. I dunno.

You fill a full team with who we have left.

[Durga]

Fair, I still want your interpretation of when I shifted him to town.

i don't understand what you're asking of me

ISO me. At some stage I posted damo was hard town. Look at the posts he made just prior to that and tell me what you think.

I would do it but I'm on mobile

i don't have time sorry i'm heading to a different city v soon

[Balki Bartokomous]

i don't understand what you're asking of me

ISO me. At some stage I posted damo was hard town. Look at the posts he made just prior to that and tell me what you think.

I would do it but I'm on mobile

i don't have time sorry i'm heading to a different city v soon

It's on page 125.

[ND]

I just got home. I'll do some reading and catch up tonight.

[xorxes]

Can someone link to a recent Xorx scum game?

Does he try hard as scum, or just kinda play passive and scared?

It depends on how much time I have. I won my last scum game if I'm not mistaken (or maybe it was the one before last, it was the one where I ended up in lylo with brainbomb and rivera).

And this game's EOD time have meant I missed all the live EODs and most of the important action that happens before them, plus the huge amount of posts means I've been mostly catching up.

[Nephthys]

Scum team:

Xorxes, Flavius, Damo, ND, teacon, and maybe et?

I think that holds up.

Why et? He has seemed really town this game to me, albeit due to language barrier, a little hard to understand sometimes.

I'm just trying to fill a full team. It's process of elimination. I didn't think ND was scum either, but I'm not sure why I mentally lumped him with town other than his participation in the ALL CAPS yell off. I dunno.

You fill a full team with who we have left.

Be careful of force fitting a team. Better to naturally fill a team and then find scummy players after

[xorxes]

I think you missed the point where I think Percy will flip scum and reveal at least half the scum team.

Can you give me three bullet points on why you think Percy is scum? And I thought you said that a Xorx flip unravels more.

- PR hunting and BA hunting
- Above with little attempts at solving
- Hedgy play with the other whom I believe to be sum

A xorxes flip provides more although I think Percy is more likely. A Percy flip increases my xorx read which then allows me to be fully happy lynching him. I suppose I would lunch xorx today but would prefer percy.

You think I'm bussing Percy? I'm fine with that.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Neph, here are the Damo posts around where you read him as town. I don't really see what you see. He has mostly avoided the game, and constantly says he is not caught up. I don't think that his slight participation is very readable at all. That may be NAI, but I don't see how you can townread him for it.

Why would a VT EP encourage et to claim?

If et town claims (irrelevant if true or not) EP is lynched and et presumably NKd.

If et is scum and claims EP still gets lynched and et escapes until the real PR cc thus exposing their identity.

How can this be good play from vt EP?

I suppose it could bad vt play from EP but then he deserves to be lynched imo.

How surprisingly Damo and Prado think alike.....

It could be scum v scum but then it hardly matters does it?

In this artificial 1v1 set up where the most likely situation is Town v Town then yes.

You're suggesting End is wrong here? It's 1v1. The End wouldn't come into play until sufficient votes. I don't see what's wrong with it.

Oh alright then ##UNEND while it's evenly balanced.

I must say that I think it's weird that those not having voted by the Judge call cannot vote no lynch whereas those having already voted can just sit back and not vote effectively voting for no lynch.


Either no lynch should be an option or everybody should have to vote for one of the two.

Yeah prob a bit unfair to change the rules midstream but it seems a bit unfair that no lynch is not possible. Could try and tie it I suppose. Anyway GMs have made their decision. I just wanted to moan.

Guys, its a miracle,

I'm actually caught up!!

Yeah when you miss a chunk it's a nightmare getting back up to date.

[xorxes]

Can someone link to a recent Xorx scum game?

Does he try hard as scum, or just kinda play passive and scared?

passive and lurky iirc. he told me once he won't play diplomacy with me because he hates lying and can't do it and is super bad at it and the only part of mafia he likes is the puzzle solving which he can't do as scum

I'm sure I said everything else but I don't remember saying I was bad at it.

[Squigs44]

Xorxes, I'm not sure I really have questions for you. Nothing you have done has been contradictory or illogical, you just haven't made any good plays. You haven't found any new interesting takes. You haven't gotten into any confrontations. I could try to iso you and come up with a question or two but it's not Xorxes answers I need, it's Xorxes initiative I need.

[ChippeRock]

While waiting for some leadership, I would like to test Chip, if he can die without dead posting and destroying the game and the fun for others (He is not too fun in this game at the moment either). And to see if he ever is going to be allowed to take part in future games. He failed to promise me this simple thing in the sign up thread, so let's ##VOTE Chip

So, you want to policy lynch me on Day 3? While we're in this state? Unless you think I'm scum, that's a horrible reason to lynch me.

Also, why are you waiting for "some leadership"? Don't you have any of your own thoughts and opinions? Why don't you make a case for somebody being scum and try getting them lynched?

[Squigs44]

Can you give me three bullet points on why you think Percy is scum? And I thought you said that a Xorx flip unravels more.

- PR hunting and BA hunting
- Above with little attempts at solving
- Hedgy play with the other whom I believe to be sum

A xorxes flip provides more although I think Percy is more likely. A Percy flip increases my xorx read which then allows me to be fully happy lynching him. I suppose I would lunch xorx today but would prefer percy.

You think I'm bussing Percy? I'm fine with that.

What?

[Balki Bartokomous]

I'm just trying to fill a full team. It's process of elimination. I didn't think ND was scum either, but I'm not sure why I mentally lumped him with town other than his participation in the ALL CAPS yell off. I dunno.

You fill a full team with who we have left.

Be careful of force fitting a team. Better to naturally fill a team and then find scummy players after

Well, I think it's hard to fill a team of 6 given a lot of the pairs that don't make sense. So, while it's hard to lynch so many in a row without making a mistake, we can use the number of scum outstanding to our advantage. We all should be thinking about this in terms of full scumteams. That is the one advantage we have at MYLO with so many scumbuckets still outstanding.

[Durga]

Those posts by damo are not townie. They are in fact really worthless and don't contribute to anything.

[Durga]

Oh God this thread was so much nicer without chippe :'(

[Durga]

- PR hunting and BA hunting
- Above with little attempts at solving
- Hedgy play with the other whom I believe to be sum

A xorxes flip provides more although I think Percy is more likely. A Percy flip increases my xorx read which then allows me to be fully happy lynching him. I suppose I would lunch xorx today but would prefer percy.

You think I'm bussing Percy? I'm fine with that.

What?

He's fine with that cuz they need like one mislynch right?

Come on. Town xorx doesn't throw the game like this.

I also don't remember town xorx defending himself. He usually just proves he's town by his actions.