Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Squigs44]

anyone wanna lynch neph? i'm like 85% he's scum

Nephs playing? You could possibly persuade me. What's the case, just that he's a lurker?

no, i posted why a few pages back. empty posts that say garbage with the intent of trying to provide something. fake reasons to scum read someone, drops a vote on teacon and dips, has been lurking for like the past hour and hasn't posted. this is really our best bet tbh

I'll trust you here

##vote Nephthys

[Durga]

anyone wanna lynch neph? i'm like 85% he's scum

If you want people to lynch other people, you should probably to provide a detailed justification on why that person is scum.

Are you reading the thread Chippe? Cuz she did, this just makes it look like you want to throw shade for the sake of casting doubts

chippe is part of my fanclub of men obsessed with attacking me!!

[bozotheclown]

I never said I thought he would be modkilled, only that he would be breaking a rule, and the GM responded to someone's question saying he had not broken any rules. The game is setup so that ChippeRock can't prove he is VT, that does not mean that ChippeRock can't prove he is not VT by making fake claims.

If this were the case the game would be broken as I explained, which Worcej said it was not broken. You're trying to game the mechanics in a way similar to Chippe.

I strongly disagree, ChippeRock is the one who openly gamed the role PMs, I just do not think we should ignore him because of it.

[Durga]

##vote Neph

guys go read why i think this if you haven't already, and go read Neph's iso

[FlaviusAetius]

I'll be away for a bit.

Is there really nobody else who suspects Flavius right now?

The nervous defensive posts I have in mind are:

Here, here, here, and here.

But perhaps what pings me more is this:

Ok but Squigs just said that the other player in his game was super accurate with giving early reads, I'm in the middle of giving mine

Here is what Squigs actually said about #squigssdude:

I leaned many new tactics over on MU for solving. I wanted to try some of them in this game. There is a guy over there who makes reads on the first post of every player in every game and is better than random accurate

I just wonder whether the #squigssdude radar was proving to be extra prescient in the early stages, and it psyched Flavius out a bit.

Teacon already told you about last game. I told you about last game.
Stop acting like you don't know, lists are very very important to finding out whose scum. I wanted EVERYONE to give a list of gut reactions like this dude did

[TrPrado]

Flavius:
Why do you seem so opposed to the bozo wagon when you seem to think he's scum?

[Nephthys]

neph you're on, care to grace us with your thoughts? if there are any

Sadly not yet, just skimming to see if there's anything wild happening. I have an 18 hour shift starting soon so hopefully will have time to put together something ASAP

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.14

FlaviusAetius(6) - Balki Bartokomous, Dargorygel, Foxcastle, Moscowfleet, Tom Bombadil, TrPrado
bozotheclown(5) - Percy Williams, et, Damo666, Carl Tuckerson, Connorcompton
Nephthys(2) - Squigs44, Durga
ChippeRock(2) - bozotheclown, EspressoPatronum
TrPrado(2) - FlaviusAetius, ChippeRock
CruaaderReynauld(2) - ND, Teacon7
teacon7(1) - Nephthys
Percy Williams(1) - xorxes
Foxcastle(1) - Rdrivera2005
No‑Lynch(1) - CruaaderReynauld

Flavius is set for lynching.

You have 40 minutes remaining.

[bozotheclown]

@connorcompton: Can you give me examples of my comments that were useless?

I've looked through your posts. except your first, (which may be an attempt to put focus away from 'lurkers') I'm fairly sure EVERY ONE is about Chippe and the Fiasco that has ended some time ago. We've all moved on. please do the same.

That is not giving me any examples of useless comments. Are you saying any comment about ChippeRock is by default useless?

[ChippeRock]

If you want people to lynch other people, you should probably to provide a detailed justification on why that person is scum.

Are you reading the thread Chippe? Cuz she did, this just makes it look like you want to throw shade for the sake of casting doubts

chippe is part of my fanclub of men obsessed with attacking me!!

Because only men would attack you right? I'm obviously a sexist intent on getting rid of any women in this game.

[bozotheclown]

I've looked through your posts. except your first, (which may be an attempt to put focus away from 'lurkers') I'm fairly sure EVERY ONE is about Chippe and the Fiasco that has ended some time ago. We've all moved on. please do the same.

Why should I move on if I think ChippeRock is scum?

Coming up with one read and focusing on it until you die or get your way is petty and ridiculous. I honestly think you cannot both be town and trying to win, I've had enough.

##VOTE bozotheclown

Do you really think someone pushing their top scum read is scum indicative?

[ChippeRock]

anyone wanna lynch neph? i'm like 85% he's scum

If you want people to lynch other people, you should probably to provide a detailed justification on why that person is scum.

Are you reading the thread Chippe? Cuz she did, this just makes it look like you want to throw shade for the sake of casting doubts

Her argument on Neph really isn't convincing in my opinion - even if it's the best damn read she's made all game (since she actually elaborated on it).

[FlaviusAetius]

Squigs does not like playing scum, worries about playing scum, but does not create new personas for playing scum. Does create new personas for playing town. The thing with checking his gut because some other guy was slightly better than average doesn't strike me as... I dunno. I don't want to say it's scummy, because I could see him coming off his third place in the MU championship with a nice confidence boost and picking that up and running with it. However, it does require town-Squigs to think that he is also going to be better than average, and I think that's different from his more cautious town meta. However, scum-Squigs could just run with it, because obviously.

Hey Squigs, what roles did you play in the MU championship, what roles did you really excel with to get to third, and do you think you're riding a confidence boost here in M46?

In champs we played a setup where everyone was a PR, no VT's. I was Jack of all Trades, but only got to use a Voyeur which was useless, so I might as well have been a VT. I was actually pretty surprised I got third in that game. I got mislynched D2 after a bunch of crazy shenanigans including claims and people voting me after townreading me. I got lynched mostly because I got bored and did this thing where I tried to build a scum-team using primarily wagon formations, and didn't explain my methodology very well, people got confused and didn't like my word choice. Oh, that and town sucked. We got swept by mafia.

So no, no confidence boost, it was a pretty awful game. I would say my emotion coming into this game is excited though. I haven't played a webdip game in a while and I like them better than the champs game.

You literally said that the guy who did the gut reads was better than normal and now your calling him bad??

[ChippeRock]

Why should I move on if I think ChippeRock is scum?

Coming up with one read and focusing on it until you die or get your way is petty and ridiculous. I honestly think you cannot both be town and trying to win, I've had enough.

##VOTE bozotheclown

Do you really think someone pushing their top scum read is scum indicative?

Having 1 fucking read is - which just happens to be a scumread.

[Nephthys]

anyone wanna lynch neph? i'm like 85% he's scum

Nephs playing? You could possibly persuade me. What's the case, just that he's a lurker?

no, i posted why a few pages back. empty posts that say garbage with the intent of trying to provide something. fake reasons to scum read someone, drops a vote on teacon and dips, has been lurking for like the past hour and hasn't posted. this is really our best bet tbh

Fake reasons?

I think I've posted one reason for all of my reads total. You seem a little force fitting here

Also I've been up 20 minutes...

[FlaviusAetius]

Lists aren't actually very helpful, especially when they don't contain any explanations or context.

We already specifically discussed this with Squigs about why IT IS HELPFUL

I don't remember this conversation. I think that was someone else. Why do you keep mis-remembering things about me?

I dont have time now to go back and show you the quote but, basically we talked about how lists are how you find scum, its common sense really

[Durga]

Nephs playing? You could possibly persuade me. What's the case, just that he's a lurker?

no, i posted why a few pages back. empty posts that say garbage with the intent of trying to provide something. fake reasons to scum read someone, drops a vote on teacon and dips, has been lurking for like the past hour and hasn't posted. this is really our best bet tbh

Fake reasons?

I think I've posted one reason for all of my reads total. You seem a little force fitting here

Also I've been up 20 minutes...

it would only be "force fitting" (whatever that is) if both bozo and flav were scum and i was trying to save them both.

[TrPrado]

Squigs does not like playing scum, worries about playing scum, but does not create new personas for playing scum. Does create new personas for playing town. The thing with checking his gut because some other guy was slightly better than average doesn't strike me as... I dunno. I don't want to say it's scummy, because I could see him coming off his third place in the MU championship with a nice confidence boost and picking that up and running with it. However, it does require town-Squigs to think that he is also going to be better than average, and I think that's different from his more cautious town meta. However, scum-Squigs could just run with it, because obviously.

Hey Squigs, what roles did you play in the MU championship, what roles did you really excel with to get to third, and do you think you're riding a confidence boost here in M46?

In champs we played a setup where everyone was a PR, no VT's. I was Jack of all Trades, but only got to use a Voyeur which was useless, so I might as well have been a VT. I was actually pretty surprised I got third in that game. I got mislynched D2 after a bunch of crazy shenanigans including claims and people voting me after townreading me. I got lynched mostly because I got bored and did this thing where I tried to build a scum-team using primarily wagon formations, and didn't explain my methodology very well, people got confused and didn't like my word choice. Oh, that and town sucked. We got swept by mafia.

So no, no confidence boost, it was a pretty awful game. I would say my emotion coming into this game is excited though. I haven't played a webdip game in a while and I like them better than the champs game.

You literally said that the guy who did the gut reads was better than normal and now your calling him bad??

Why did you take him at face value?

[FlaviusAetius]

@Flavius, by now you have no doubt seen at least one of the perhaps dozen requests in this game thread for you to tell us why you identified Balki as smart and experienced before I had said basically anything. You seem intent on avoiding those questions. Seems pretty clear you are afraid of them.

##vote Flavius again.

@Squigs, you should join me here. Votes matter.

I changed my mind on Flavius

I explained ALL OF THIS

[Foxcastle]

##CALL GM: Is Cruaader Reynaurd still in the game or has be been banned?