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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 2:04 am
by ND
Okay, I can see this as a possibility.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 2:58 am
by teacon7
board game party over. It was fun.

RIP rdrivera.

##vote durga

@vapor what the hell. I thought you were the cop.

also, from skimming the thread so far, it looks like xorx wasn't doing town theatre, is doubling down on his convoluted case, and... didn't die N1 as he predicted. I'd insta-scumread him for that, but I just find it so strange that he'd bus the GF. I'll be responding to his case in long form because I imagine most of you just skimmed my wall of text.

I'll say it now because it's town should beware of two things:
a) tunneling, and
b) believing something because it keeps getting repeated.

think for yourself, and don't listen to volume over quality. that's enough for now.


@xorx, what do you think of durga?

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:08 am
by teacon7
This is the first post after EoD1.
Durga wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:03 pm
Nice one xorx
It's wrong.

Lots of people were responsible for the damo lynch. it's not wrong for durga to give him sole credit.

xorx found one thing based on similar wording.

bozo scumread him for other reasons first
rdrivera scumread him for other reasons first.
...they both even said so.

damo was in my lynch pool
damo was in vapor's lynch pool

...why does durga give xorx sole credit for this lynch?

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:10 am
by teacon7
VashtaNeurotic wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:05 pm
Welp, guess I need to reevaluate the game considering he was one of the few people I thought was town. Possible he was bussing ND but at least for next phase I'll discount that possibility (Though the godather is the most likely scum to bus as they are the most likely for towncred to not be undone by a scan).
I don't quite understand what vash is saying here.

@xorx, can you or one of the other experienced players explain this to us?
why would scum bus their godfather for towncred?

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:12 am
by teacon7
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:07 pm
OK, I'm dead tonight.

Doc probably don't save me, you could be needed to save the cop later, and I will die N2 if you do anyway. (Or maybe do save me, just to keep the scum guessing ;) )

Cop don't scan someone who will die early.

My top candidate for scum at the moment is teacon, but that's just a hunch.
My mega-EoN-reads addressed this post a bit, but I'll respond again.

I read this as xorx trying to feed a newbie scumteam misinformation. I figured he'd run a case on me all night, basically promising them he'd go after me D2. They'd keep him alive because they'd want the two of us fighting. In my thinking for all of N1, both myself and xorx were town.

It turns out I was wrong.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:15 am
by teacon7
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:07 pm
OK, I'm dead tonight.

Doc probably don't save me, you could be needed to save the cop later, and I will die N2 if you do anyway. (Or maybe do save me, just to keep the scum guessing ;) )

Cop don't scan someone who will die early.
Okay leaving out the part about me, what do these bolded parts mean?

Really.

@xorx, who were you thinking of there, who was likely to die early and therefore shouldn't get scanned?

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:20 am
by teacon7
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:07 pm
OK, I'm dead tonight.

Doc probably don't save me, you could be needed to save the cop later, and I will die N2 if you do anyway. (Or maybe do save me, just to keep the scum guessing ;) )

Cop don't scan someone who will die early.
It reads kinda like a "don't scan me, I'm going to die."

... which is fine for xorx to say if he's really about to die.

But since he didn't die, you have to wonder - did he get scanned?

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:46 am
by Durga
teacon7 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 2:58 am
board game party over. It was fun.

RIP rdrivera.

##vote durga

@vapor what the hell. I thought you were the cop.

also, from skimming the thread so far, it looks like xorx wasn't doing town theatre, is doubling down on his convoluted case, and... didn't die N1 as he predicted. I'd insta-scumread him for that, but I just find it so strange that he'd bus the GF. I'll be responding to his case in long form because I imagine most of you just skimmed my wall of text.

I'll say it now because it's town should beware of two things:
a) tunneling, and
b) believing something because it keeps getting repeated.

think for yourself, and don't listen to volume over quality. that's enough for now.


@xorx, what do you think of durga?
Yikes wtf why would you say that line

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:46 am
by Durga
I can't tell if Teacon is panicked or bad.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:47 am
by Durga
##vote vashta

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:00 am
by ND
Drugna, the only one panicked is you as your behavior has demonstrated.

Although I don't know why Teacon would save that about vapor.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:04 am
by Durga
ND wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:00 am
Drugna, the only one panicked is you as your behavior has demonstrated.

Although I don't know why Teacon would save that about vapor.
No I just straight up fucking hate you.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:34 am
by ND
Durga wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:04 am
ND wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:00 am
Drugna, the only one panicked is you as your behavior has demonstrated.

Although I don't know why Teacon would save that about vapor.
No I just straight up fucking hate you.
The feeling is mutual.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:38 am
by EspressoPatronum
Durga wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:47 am
##vote vashta
What are your thoughts on teacon? And can you give more insight into the Vashta vote?

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:40 am
by Durga
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:38 am
Durga wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:47 am
##vote vashta
What are your thoughts on teacon? And can you give more insight into the Vashta vote?
Yeah on Monday, I'm going to bed now and to a wedding tomorrow.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:43 am
by EspressoPatronum
##VOTE teacon for now.

Was waiting to see teacon's response before I voted. Then waited to see xorxes' reply to the "fake news N1" story. Teacon hasn't convinced me yet, but I owe it to him to give his long post another look tomorrow. Will reevaluate after that.

I'm interested in seeing more of what @Percy and @Vash have to say.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:31 am
by ND
Durga wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:40 am
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:38 am
Durga wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:47 am
##vote vashta
What are your thoughts on teacon? And can you give more insight into the Vashta vote?
Yeah on Monday, I'm going to bed now and to a wedding tomorrow.
extreme avoidance right here.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 6:36 am
by ND
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:43 am
##VOTE teacon for now.

Was waiting to see teacon's response before I voted. Then waited to see xorxes' reply to the "fake news N1" story. Teacon hasn't convinced me yet, but I owe it to him to give his long post another look tomorrow. Will reevaluate after that.

I'm interested in seeing more of what @Percy and @Vash have to say.
Lol well vashta is either scum or the laziest mofo who ever signed up to play a game of mafia. If mafia he needs to be exited with drugns post haste. If lazy his opinion is worth about as much as a cup of piss.
Percy is never on and I'm starting to grow a bit suspicious.
But more peeps need to give more opinion. Fair.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 6:40 am
by ND
Durgno basically just said she wasnt going to be playing due to Irl. Sure. Or extreme avouidance due to the wagon. Most ppl can still check a phone even when busy.

I freaking guarantee she coasts this phase. Doesn't contribute shit. Pops in one hour before deadline says some snide and useless trash then either gets lynched or vanishes not to be seen again until sometime mid to late d3.

Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:00 am
by bozotheclown
VashtaNeurotic wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:56 am
Hi everyone. I'm finally back and free (and read up on this game).

So I haven't played since the 20s or 30s (well I think I replaced into a game at the end, called the scum team but got lynched, but I don't count that). Anyway when it comes to scumreads, ND tops them. I've played with town ND and scum ND, and while both of them are usually active and annoying to read, town ND is usually more proactive and less defensive than this ND has been. Also his posts have been a whole lot of fluff and claims almost entirely based upon people going after him and the like. And regardless of whether he's town or not, his post will likely clog up the thread with a really low signal:noise ratio that isn't worth keeping around.

##VoteND

When it comes to other scum reads I feel bozo might fit the bill as his first post was hopping on the EMC wagon with no prior posts and not even adressing emc for a while (except to say he thought he was scum) with a few brief responses to ideas and voting for damo for voting for ND on a post being contradictory which isn't. (The post in question being damo saying "ND likes to change styles from game to game but when he's like this he's scum." which clearly just indicates that while damo understands ND may change up his posting style from game to game, the way he is posting (i.e the lack of actual content) is a usual scum ND tactic.

Not really anyone else strikes me as scummy scummy but I could be mistaken.

When it comes to townreads I trust Espresso and his clear and concise interrogation of ND as well as other thoughts. ALso for me damo reads like someone who while not excessively active is given his relevant thoughts when he can with little fluff.

Also I find that spammers are almost always a negative for town (regardless of alignment) and worse than lurkers (though lurking is bad...funny that I'm saying that). As it's similar to how misinformation is actively worse than lack of information. While lack of substance is bad, spamming confuses and adds chaos to the town trying to solve the game.

Anyway that's what I got for now. Any questions?
This Vashta post looks particularly bad now, for pushing the ND lynch and the strong defense of damo at a time when I was the only one voting for damo.