M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#781 Post by xorxes » Sat May 18, 2019 4:59 pm

teacon7 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:32 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:19 pm
Vote Count 1.4

ND (4) — damo666, EspressoPatronum, Durga, VashtaNeurotic
damo666 (4) — bozotheclown, rdrivera2005, xorxes, ND
Percy Williams (2) — Vaporwave, teacon7
Vaporwave (1) — MoscowFleet
Durga (1) — Percy Williams
It's disappointingly quiet rn.

In my experience, scum rarely pile on the same wagon at EoD. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen it happen. So look at this list and take notes.
Note: If teacon is scum, Vapor could very well be scum with him.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#782 Post by Vaporwave » Sat May 18, 2019 5:05 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:59 pm
teacon7 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:32 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:19 pm
Vote Count 1.4

ND (4) — damo666, EspressoPatronum, Durga, VashtaNeurotic
damo666 (4) — bozotheclown, rdrivera2005, xorxes, ND
Percy Williams (2) — Vaporwave, teacon7
Vaporwave (1) — MoscowFleet
Durga (1) — Percy Williams
It's disappointingly quiet rn.

In my experience, scum rarely pile on the same wagon at EoD. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen it happen. So look at this list and take notes.
Note: If teacon is scum, Vapor could very well be scum with him.
explain a link between us. teacon is currently my main suspect

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#783 Post by Vaporwave » Sat May 18, 2019 5:06 pm

ND, I think you're biased with Durga just like I'm biased with Moscow and think he's the 3rd scum (he's prob not)

I will however look over Durga on D3 before giving a final opinion

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#784 Post by xorxes » Sat May 18, 2019 5:07 pm

xorxes wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:44 pm
teacon, you should be either pushing hard for Percy or vote for whichever of ND or damo you find scummier.
teacon7 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:45 pm
alright. ##vote damo.


BUT attendant to this circumstance:
I'm mildly unsettled that durga tried to start two other wagons in the last hour or so of the day. one on xorx, another on percy. Why is she keen to abandon ND? why not move to damo to break the tie?
He can't vote for ND, he has said already he will vote for damo over ND if it comes to that. But he makes a last ditch effort for someone to notice how scummy it looks that Durga wants to abandon the ND wagon but doesn't move to damo. If he thought Durga might be protecting damo, why would he be so hesitant to vote for damo?

Or maybe he is right and it is Durga? You all will have to decide tomorrow.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#785 Post by Vaporwave » Sat May 18, 2019 5:08 pm

My plan with ND was to wait...to see if he would wise up!

If not, I would have wanted him lynched, but he changed completely, he became a trustworthy and brave man in the 2nd half of D1

Also, it's thanks to ND's weird and ballsy behavior that we got damo, at least there's credit to him, it ain't just xorxes

ND let himself be an easy target, damo felt into his trap and bam! he got eaten

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#786 Post by bozotheclown » Sat May 18, 2019 5:11 pm

Other possible scum:

Percy: Low activity, stayed off the top wagons.

Vashta: Low activity, jumped on the easy ND wagon, defended damo. Almost too obvious.

Durga: Pushed ND wagon, did not like the xorxes push on damo.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#787 Post by xorxes » Sat May 18, 2019 5:15 pm

So after teacon reread, I'm like 80% sure he's scum. Could have been 75%, but the extra 5% comes from him disappearing for the night after being second top poster D1.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#788 Post by teacon7 » Sat May 18, 2019 5:37 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:15 pm
So after teacon reread, I'm like 80% sure he's scum. Could have been 75%, but the extra 5% comes from him disappearing for the night after being second top poster D1.
To answer the 5% ... I don't have time this Saturday to say anything just yet. I am skimming the thread though. It's probably better this way.

For my sake, please post real reads at EoN. I'll respond to to the other 75% later on.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#789 Post by xorxes » Sat May 18, 2019 5:41 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:30 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:22 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:20 pm


I also saw him as more of a discussion driver. He was asking a lot of questions to different people and responding with positive messages.

What do you guys think about Damo not mentioning Teacon in his reads on p20? Teacon highlights it at p22 with, "aww, you left me out.
Also: thanks for being more verbose. keep it coming."

I'm pretty sure Damo mentioned everyone else in his post. It could have been an accident, but maybe he was trying to help separate himself from teacon.
He didn't mention Vapor either.

I already asked Vapor and teacon to comment about that.
It probably means Vapor and teacon are town, I doubt damo would forget to include his teammates.
He might have left them out on purpose so you would think that. It's complete wifom.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#790 Post by Vaporwave » Sat May 18, 2019 5:46 pm

teacon

teacon

teacon

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#791 Post by Vaporwave » Sat May 18, 2019 5:48 pm

want to encourage e.m.c to give his best for exams, make it a priority, forget about this game for a while, eat protein, stay hydrated and take breaks as often as necessary!

fingers crossed that you nail them all! ;)

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#792 Post by Vaporwave » Sat May 18, 2019 5:51 pm

teacon7 wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:37 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:15 pm
So after teacon reread, I'm like 80% sure he's scum. Could have been 75%, but the extra 5% comes from him disappearing for the night after being second top poster D1.
To answer the 5% ... I don't have time this Saturday to say anything just yet. I am skimming the thread though. It's probably better this way.

For my sake, please post real reads at EoN. I'll respond to to the other 75% later on.
Yes, that's true. Those aren't points against you. I feel that you would have remained on thread longer and tickled players after GF reveal in order to maintain cred, I think your inactivity during night works in your favor

However your love for damo was too strong and that's the main problem

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#793 Post by xorxes » Sat May 18, 2019 5:51 pm

Vaporwave wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:05 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:59 pm
teacon7 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:32 pm


It's disappointingly quiet rn.

In my experience, scum rarely pile on the same wagon at EoD. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen it happen. So look at this list and take notes.
Note: If teacon is scum, Vapor could very well be scum with him.
explain a link between us. teacon is currently my main suspect
His comment about scum not piling up, which I have no idea why he would bring up at that point when we had no flips to guide us, suggests maybe scum were indeed piling up.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#794 Post by Vaporwave » Sat May 18, 2019 5:55 pm

that has nothing to do with me, I wanted Percy's throat slit

wasn't prepared for a second choice. I mentioned suspecting damo, but it was a weak suspicion and I wasn't ready to vote for damo because I'm volatile D1

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#795 Post by Vaporwave » Sat May 18, 2019 5:57 pm

can definitely understand suspicion because I haven't (yet) been confirmed and I wasn't vocal against damo like you, ND and bozo

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#796 Post by bozotheclown » Sat May 18, 2019 6:08 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:41 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:30 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:22 pm


He didn't mention Vapor either.

I already asked Vapor and teacon to comment about that.
It probably means Vapor and teacon are town, I doubt damo would forget to include his teammates.
He might have left them out on purpose so you would think that. It's complete wifom.
If it is WIFOM why does it make you suspect Vapor and teacon more?

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#797 Post by xorxes » Sat May 18, 2019 6:37 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 6:08 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:41 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:30 pm


It probably means Vapor and teacon are town, I doubt damo would forget to include his teammates.
He might have left them out on purpose so you would think that. It's complete wifom.
If it is WIFOM why does it make you suspect Vapor and teacon more?
I don't think it does. It just doesn't make me suspect them less.

It is interesting though, that teacon asked about the missing read on him but not on Vapor, and when damo explained, he didn't question the explanation, which was actually false as far as I can tell.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#798 Post by ND » Sat May 18, 2019 6:41 pm

So, Teacon just spends all day trying to get some discussion going on then EOD states he wants to lynch Percy but if it comes down to Damo (GF) or me he would vote Damo. When Durga gives him some fuel and says she would go Percy if a wagon forms he is just like nah I am voting Damo.

This doesn't really sound like scum play to me. I mean unless you think he is willing to get rid of the GF and is doing this to get a lot of towncred. He had the chance to avoid me and Damo altogether and just vote Percy with Durga. I guess that's possible but I think it's less likely dudes.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#799 Post by ND » Sat May 18, 2019 6:42 pm

Like I just don't see that as a high possibility rn after spending all that time looking at eod.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#800 Post by xorxes » Sat May 18, 2019 6:44 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:57 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:33 pm
Vaporwave wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:21 pm


Do you suggest that all players leave peeks in second half of D2?
No! I trust the cop to be smart enough to leave a clear indication of his scan without revealing himself.

Besides, it's not obvious that the cop should scan tonight. It depends a lot on who they are and how exposed they are.
I do not see any reason the cop would not want to maximize the chance of getting their scan in by using it tonight.
It's a trade-off. The earlier the scan, the greater the chances it is useless: on someone that dies early, or that is the doc, or that becomes obvtown on their own, etc. The longer they wait, the greater the chances they never get a scan.

That's why it depends a lot on who the cop is. If I am the cop I'm obviously scanning tonight, but if it's someone with low chance of being lynched/NKd, they may choose to wait and get more info on who would be a useful scan.

But you already knew this, so why are you asking?

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