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Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 3:40 pm
by Jamiet99uk
connorcompton wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 3:34 pm
I would like to join...

and 'confirm'.
Hi Connor,

We're full up now - but would you like to join the subs list? With 24 players it's quite likely that a replacement will be needed.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 3:49 pm
by connorcompton
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 3:40 pm
connorcompton wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 3:34 pm
I would like to join...

and 'confirm'.
Hi Connor,

We're full up now - but would you like to join the subs list? With 24 players it's quite likely that a replacement will be needed.
That would be great, thanks.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:16 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Player List:

1. e.m.c^42 - CONFIRMED
2. FlaviusAetius
3. Durga - BALKI? omg!!
4. ND - CONFIRMED
5. CrusaderReynauld
6. Damo666 - CONFIRMED
7. Dargorygel - CONFIRMED
8. TrPrAdO
9. xorxes - CONFIRMED
10. Rdrivera2005 - CONFIRMED
11. teacon7
12. Squigs44 - CONFIRMED
13. Nephthys
14. ChippeRock - CONFIRMED
15. Foxcastle - CONFIRMED
16. Moscowfleet - CONFIRMED
17. Tom Bombadil
18. bozo
19. EspressoPatronum
20. Carl Tuckerson - CONFIRMED
21. Ubercacher16
22. Percy Williams - CONFIRMED
23. Balki
24. et - CONFIRMED

Subs
1. peterlund
2. Connorcompton

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 5:56 pm
by Durga
You missed the hearts, the hearts are integral

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 6:03 pm
by worcej
Player List:

1. e.m.c^42 - CONFIRMED
2. FlaviusAetius
3. Durga - BALKI? omg!! 💕
4. ND - CONFIRMED
5. CrusaderReynauld
6. Damo666 - CONFIRMED
7. Dargorygel - CONFIRMED
8. TrPrAdO
9. xorxes - CONFIRMED
10. Rdrivera2005 - CONFIRMED
11. teacon7
12. Squigs44 - CONFIRMED
13. Nephthys
14. ChippeRock - CONFIRMED
15. Foxcastle - CONFIRMED
16. Moscowfleet - CONFIRMED
17. Tom Bombadil
18. bozo
19. EspressoPatronum
20. Carl Tuckerson - CONFIRMED
21. Ubercacher16
22. Percy Williams - CONFIRMED
23. Balki
24. et - CONFIRMED

Subs
1. peterlund
2. Connorcompton

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 11:20 pm
by rdrivera2005
You asked for suggestions:
I think the day kill is too overpowered for Mafia. Town don't have a vig kill and Judge power is a bit useless.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 11:31 pm
by TrPrado
Confirm me

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:07 am
by CruaaderReynauld
Confirm me

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:50 am
by worcej
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 11:20 pm
You asked for suggestions:
I think the day kill is too overpowered for Mafia. Town don't have a vig kill and Judge power is a bit useless.
So your suggestion is take the day kill out or add a vig?

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:00 am
by Squigs44
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 11:20 pm
You asked for suggestions:
I think the day kill is too overpowered for Mafia. Town don't have a vig kill and Judge power is a bit useless.
I strongly disagree that the judge power is useless. A vig shot is certainly much stronger though.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:54 am
by Carl Tuckerson
The Judge role looks cool, you should keep it

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:04 am
by teacon7
...Can town vote to NL after the judge uses his power?

...how close to EoD can a maf daykill fire?

I'm seeing maf able to score two town deaths if the judge picks wrongly.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:09 am
by teacon7
Let me clarify:

The judge picks two candidates. They're both town. Maf knows this.
Maf secretary tells the assassin to kill candidate A. The maf assassin sends the order in as close to EoD as the GM will allow. Candidate A dies. Town now has to move to candidate B (now the only option), or vote NL (if such is allowed).

A mafia daykill lets them abuse that situation. A vig wouldn't have information like "they're both town" on a judged lynch (so it'd be less rife for abuse), though a similar situation could still arise if one judged-lynch candidate of the two got vigshot.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:19 am
by Carl Tuckerson
teacon7 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:09 am
Let me clarify:

The judge picks two candidates. They're both town. Maf knows this.
Maf secretary tells the assassin to kill candidate A. The maf assassin sends the order in as close to EoD as the GM will allow. Candidate A dies. Town now has to move to candidate B (now the only option), or vote NL (if such is allowed).

A mafia daykill lets them abuse that situation. A vig wouldn't have information like "they're both town" on a judged lynch (so it'd be less rife for abuse), though a similar situation could still arise if one judged-lynch candidate of the two got vigshot.
If the judge pairs two towns together, the mafia can always kill two townies in one turn. What's special about them being able to shoot one of the townies up for a vote? If anything, shouldn't they let the two townies stay alive as long as possible?
Killing one of the townies confirms both of them (as the mafia would not shoot a townie if their partner were up for a vote), and even if this is done as close to deadline as possible to mitigate the usefulness of this fact, that's still giving free info.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:42 am
by rdrivera2005
worcej wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:50 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 11:20 pm
You asked for suggestions:
I think the day kill is too overpowered for Mafia. Town don't have a vig kill and Judge power is a bit useless.
So your suggestion is take the day kill out or add a vig?
I think taking day kill out is better. Maybe transform it to a power like Ninja (not be seen doing the NK) or another not so strong power.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:29 am
by ubercacher16
Is there any reason you guys use Quicktopic.com instead of the PMs here or some other site? Is it just tradition?

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:34 am
by Squigs44
ubercacher16 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:29 am
Is there any reason you guys use Quicktopic.com instead of the PMs here or some other site? Is it just tradition?
Pm's are too confusing to read, its better to have them all in one place like in a qt instead of having to hunt through lots of PMs that fill up your inbox. We have used Discord instead of quicktopic for a few games, which I personally like, but some people don't use Discord as much, or they prefer the qt format. But yeah, mostly tradition I think. It works.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:23 pm
by teacon7
Carl Tuckerson wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:19 am
If the judge pairs two towns together, the mafia can always kill two townies in one turn. What's special about them being able to shoot one of the townies up for a vote? If anything, shouldn't they let the two townies stay alive as long as possible?
Killing one of the townies confirms both of them (as the mafia would not shoot a townie if their partner were up for a vote), and even if this is done as close to deadline as possible to mitigate the usefulness of this fact, that's still giving free info.
I don't think shooting one would confirm the other one. It's risky, but if the judged lynch is MvT, why not shoot the T for maximum wifom experience? The Judge has the power to limit vote options, but that doesn't mean his scumreads are right.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:24 pm
by teacon7
Squigs44 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:34 am
ubercacher16 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:29 am
Is there any reason you guys use Quicktopic.com instead of the PMs here or some other site? Is it just tradition?
Pm's are too confusing to read, its better to have them all in one place like in a qt instead of having to hunt through lots of PMs that fill up your inbox. We have used Discord instead of quicktopic for a few games, which I personally like, but some people don't use Discord as much, or they prefer the qt format. But yeah, mostly tradition I think. It works.
I like QT's because it's possible to go back and review old games, and what people said in godthreads/mafchats etc.

Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - Signup Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:57 pm
by ubercacher16
1. e.m.c^42 - CONFIRMED
2. FlaviusAetius
3. Durga - BALKI? omg!! 💕
4. ND - CONFIRMED
5. CrusaderReynauld - CONFIRMED
6. Damo666 - CONFIRMED
7. Dargorygel - CONFIRMED
8. TrPrAdO - CONFIRMED
9. xorxes - CONFIRMED
10. Rdrivera2005 - CONFIRMED
11. teacon7
12. Squigs44 - CONFIRMED
13. Nephthys
14. ChippeRock - CONFIRMED
15. Foxcastle - CONFIRMED
16. Moscowfleet - CONFIRMED
17. Tom Bombadil
18. bozo
19. EspressoPatronum
20. Carl Tuckerson - CONFIRMED
21. Percy Williams - CONFIRMED
22. Balki
23. et - CONFIRMED

Subs
1. peterlund
2. Connorcompton
3. ubercacher16


Due to unforeseen circumstances I must move myself to the subs list. I took the liberty of listing TrPrado and CrusaderReynauld as CONFIRMED.