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So this is how Liberty dies? 3 non-voters...Shame.......

##vote Moscow Fleet

No flash wagon today I guess....

No vote counts? Nothing?

Well I felt bad for not keeping up, so just took about an hour to reread and solve the game. You're welcome.

Early on this game is largely Ike and Squigs fooling around. Squigs does make some serious posts, with his questioning of Jamie and Darg. Ike really doesn't say anything of substance.

Vapor made one empty post on page 5, then for no apparent reason asks Percy about a post he made, which Percy promptly replies to. Vapor then piggybacks off Squig asking EMC to post more clearly, and basically says he has no reads on anyone (Post #120). He joke votes Ike the next page.

After EOD 1, Vapor makes a few posts about how darg was weird and EMC was his usual self. Votes Ryast for 'not leaving an impression'. At this point, Vapor has not scumread anyone.

Percy makes a case on Squigs, and does a good job of answering questions about it. While I don't agree with the case, I think the effort was genuine. Overall I've liked most of Percy's posts.

Ike jumps on the case with a vote, which is arguably his first serious vote.

Cleasar jumps in page 8 with a few lengthy joke posts. Jamie comments that they look forced, which I agree with. Follows up with a bunch of stuff about no-lynching, no actual analysis or questioning yet. Then after Jamie is lynched, he makes this post:

Claesar wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:27 pm

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:22 pm

What did you think of emc's actions at EoD?
I WAS feeling a scumread towards him... but i found his reasoning ok at the end.

So...
Gut feeling for D2...
##VOTE squigs

I think it made sense for him to vote Jamie if he was worried about dying himself. In my mind however, people who are worried about dying are either scum or bad players. I'm going to assume the former for now.

##vote emc

Which is pretty horrible. His first serious vote of the game is on EMC for saving himself? Why wouldn't he save himself, as any alignment? Cleasar ends up voting Ryast before getting off, with no reason given, and his vote is the one that also pushed Ryast in the lead. Again, really not liking this.

Vapour continues to post some very useless empty comments prior to EOD 2. Something very interesting to note is that throughout the entire game Cleasar has never mentioned Vapour, and Vapour has mentioned Cleasar twice. Once to say this:

Vaporwave wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:04 am

Caesar is giving me Vecna + Tom Bombadil mash vibes, I'm not rulling him as scum but I need to see more

And the second was to townread Cleasar on page 20 (#399), where Vapor also says that anyone could be scum. Vapour votes Ike, and who but Claesar shortly follows.

So to summarize, I think Squigs is strong town and has been doing most of our scumhunting. Percy is a townlean.

Ike has done jack shit all game. His serious posts consist of voting for Squigs after Percy's case, then switching to Darg when that wagon gets going. I don't like his play.

However, I much more strongly dislike Cleasar and Vapor right now. Claesar has been posting plenty, but most of it is pretty useless discussion about no lynching. There is very little questioning, analysis, or reasoned out reads. In the same vein Vapour hasn't stated a solid scumread on anyone this entire game, and has posted almost nothing of substance.

Glad to see that Squigs voted Claesar while I was writing this up, and will happily join him. ##Vote Claesar

Lol wait, eastern time

that being said, I think the argument against Ezio is quite valid - but it's based on lack of content rather than content - and he's usually a lurker too, so it isn't ooc.

So it's mainly he's just been bad, regardless of alignment: seriously, as town or mafia it's shitty play to post once a phase.

am usually quite lax on people like this, as there's this undying hope of "maybe they'll appear and start posting, so people can actually read them for what they're doing", but I think he's crossed past that line here

Moscow and Ike fall in this category too, but they're better by a hair - at least Ike was here lurking, compared to those who aren't even bothering to do that :P
Ike, give some reasons! Moscow, you too - you both are lurking atm and have an hour until eod - am sure you can produce something :D

However, I don't know if it's worth it voting in this pile, vs based on what I've been disliking - we can't really judge based on standards from other games since activity here has just been so different overall...

[quote=MoscowFleet post_id=71749 time=1555542037 user_id=63
Ike has done jack shit all game.
[/quote]

MoscowFleet wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:00 pm

Ike has done jack shit all game.

Sad my last one is poop, so Moscow, you want to be Pot or Kettle?

To some extent I get what you're saying, but I simply haven't been here, while you've managed to devote plenty of time to saying not much of anything.

oh terrific

Moscow has made a case

Ike, waiting on you now lol

MoscowFleet wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:07 pm

To some extent I get what you're saying, but I simply haven't been here, while you've managed to devote plenty of time to saying not much of anything.

Better some activity than none at all

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:09 pm

oh terrific

Moscow has made a case

Ike, waiting on you now lol

Yeah I'm on my phone, you wont be getting a case tonight. Leafs are on too so Moscow is probably out

will get back to Moscow and pick at his 'case'

although I'm not getting much from it, what is it that bothers you, MF?

I'm trying to find out if you're town scumreading me or trying to use me as a target

can you be more concise and use bulletpoints?

I've mentioned Percy and got to be pleased with him later, I liked Squigs but he became more absent then turned back

as with Claesar he's my new favorite for townfolk, if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, but I'm not understanding your issue with me

Unofficial Vote Count: (since there's been changes)

Claesar(2): Squigs, Moscow
Ike(2): Claesar, Vapor
Ezio(1): Percy
Moscow(1): Ike

Nonvoting: Ezio, EMC

There are 45 minutes until EOD

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:15 pm

There are 45 minutes until EOD

who are you voting for Mr Ex-Alien?

like why do you leave your vote for last minutes in every single game?

Vaporwave wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:12 pm

will get back to Moscow and pick at his 'case'

Wow, spicy distaste at validating that post as a case!
Keeping things interesting.

Pick at whatever you want Vapor. But first if you could explain why Claesar is town, that's be great.

Also, Bruins score first