MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[e.m.c^42]

It's because It started on a Tuesday as opposed to usual Monday. I run a pub poker game on Monday and Wednesday evenings (UK) and am unable to post at these times. Hence the 'laters crocodiles.'

In a couple of hours or so there will be a 'laters crocodiles'.

Point taken and noted. Since you have time now, want to talk with us more? :D

but unfortunately, I'm not a very productive choice to discuss theories with lol

[damo666]

Sorry about that double post. Makes me look like an idiot. I was getting a 'you can't post so soon' message and didn't know first one gone through.

[Vecna]

How on earth did you get that from that post EMC?

[Squigs44]

So you say you're doing it purposefully?

The purpose of that specific post was to make a jab at Jamie, so yes. The best way to get a read on him is to get him involved in an argument. Unfortunately he is sober.

So what did his way of handling the situation tell you? Theres a pretty easy answer to this question, so why are you not answering it here while you obviously are engaging Jamiet?

You ignored the parts where people questioned me about this, and I gave an answer with my feelings towards Jamie. Also the fact that I voted him, saying I found his play scummier than everyone else's.

Did you not comment on those half of my posts because you didn't read them, you didn't think they were interesting, or you couldn't think of a way to construe it as scummy?

[damo666]

It's because It started on a Tuesday as opposed to usual Monday. I run a pub poker game on Monday and Wednesday evenings (UK) and am unable to post at these times. Hence the 'laters crocodiles.'

In a couple of hours or so there will be a 'laters crocodiles'.

Point taken and noted. Since you have time now, want to talk with us more? :D

but unfortunately, I'm not a very productive choice to discuss theories with lol

Day 1 as town is difficult, just floundering around grabbing at straws. Don't find anyone particularly scummy at the moment.

[e.m.c^42]

Sorry about that double post. Makes me look like an idiot. I was getting a 'you can't post so soon' message and didn't know first one gone through.

was just about to ask if "squigllybits" was symbolic of something xD

since squigllybits ---> squigglybits ---> tentacles ----> aliens have tentacles ----> are you subtly insinuating squigs = alien /?

[damo666]

How on earth did you get that from that post EMC?

Get what from what post Vecna?

[Squigs44]

Therefore it is IMPORTANT that if you are the Assassin, or you've got the Ray Gun, you only shoot if you think you can target the Alien - and in that case you should fire during the DAY since the Alien is night immune.

For scum, shooting townies harms your own win condition because it makes it easier for the Alien to win.

For town, shooting scum is fine if we can catch the Alien within 5 days, but otherwise actually helps the Alien to win.

This type of blatant instructing of the assassin of how Jamiet thinks he should play is not something Id think Jamiet would do as scum out there in the open. Because its bound to attract attention. Which im sure will follow in the posts coming after it.

How is this supposed to attract attention? He states some obvious mechanics. That's like saying a post denouncing no-lynches is bound to attract attention. Your the only one who drew attention to it.

[damo666]

Sorry about that double post. Makes me look like an idiot. I was getting a 'you can't post so soon' message and didn't know first one gone through.

was just about to ask if "squigllybits" was symbolic of something xD

since squigllybits ---> squigglybits ---> tentacles ----> aliens have tentacles ----> are you subtly insinuating squigs = alien /?

If so, it was unconciously. Nice theory though.

Btw how do you know aliens have tentacles? You must be MJ12.

Gotcha.

[e.m.c^42]

Hey everyone.

I'm the alien. I've also got the alien shooting gun thingy so nobody can shoot me. I don't really wanna read the rules to figure out how my role works. Can someone explain how this works real quick?

I saw someone say that I'm gonna get found out day 3 anyways so I assume this doesn't really matter much

Now this is how you shitpost

Or completely fuck yourself in the anal gland if true, which would also be hilarious

Ooh sorry, forgot about your later post considering the other option, oops

there was this that I missed

And I -could- actually see Ezio just realizing that theres no real way around the proposed D3 plan and just full claiming hoping we ignore him for now and engage in a town vs mafia war where he ends up skirting by to a point where it comes down to us making a kingmaker-choice.

Fact is, we can already do that shit day2 if the items are truely random. I really dont see a way around it for the alien.

[snip]

so second and third theory, ignore that previous post (this is what I get for being lazy in reading xd)

[Squigs44]

((((he kinda did tho, he went hard at you and is ignoring you now))))

Nah, that was just Jamie using buzzwords like spamming and OMGUS. His town game is much more creative in the way he calls you scum.

Is it really now?

Do you disagree?

Most of your posts have been "I'm getting bad vibes" or "No, this isn't true" without any explanation. Just because Vecna says it's so, doesn't make it so. You're shading without making a case.

[Squigs44]

those who have posted and were okayish:
emc
Squigs
Vecna
LQ
Ezio

those that have posted but are great actors so beware:
xorxes
Jamiet
Ike

iffy peeps:
damo
worcej

those who have posted but left no impression:
Neph
dargo? (am I imagining things? but I think there was 1 dargo post somewhere)
Percy
thamrick

What did you like about emc? I personally haven't been a fan this game.

[Vecna]

The purpose of that specific post was to make a jab at Jamie, so yes. The best way to get a read on him is to get him involved in an argument. Unfortunately he is sober.

So what did his way of handling the situation tell you? Theres a pretty easy answer to this question, so why are you not answering it here while you obviously are engaging Jamiet?

You ignored the parts where people questioned me about this, and I gave an answer with my feelings towards Jamie. Also the fact that I voted him, saying I found his play scummier than everyone else's.

Did you not comment on those half of my posts because you didn't read them, you didn't think they were interesting, or you couldn't think of a way to construe it as scummy?

I feel by now you should know how my rereading works, and the chronological order it takes. And no, I dont remember reading any answers of yours that I can agree with, or that I felt were worth mentioning again. I disagree with you, and I keep having this feeling that youre extremely reactionary in how you approach anyone that dares to say a word about it.

[e.m.c^42]

Sorry about that double post. Makes me look like an idiot. I was getting a 'you can't post so soon' message and didn't know first one gone through.

was just about to ask if "squigllybits" was symbolic of something xD

since squigllybits ---> squigglybits ---> tentacles ----> aliens have tentacles ----> are you subtly insinuating squigs = alien /?

If so, it was unconciously. Nice theory though.

Btw how do you know aliens have tentacles? You must be MJ12.

Gotcha.

ofc aliens have tentacles, because of hen[Post Redacted]

[Clearance Revoked]

[Squigs44]

So far so good Rd but imma withold judgement until I see you having the initiative for a bit

I don't like Vecna playing like he's a town clear already

[Vecna]

And I -could- actually see Ezio just realizing that theres no real way around the proposed D3 plan and just full claiming hoping we ignore him for now and engage in a town vs mafia war where he ends up skirting by to a point where it comes down to us making a kingmaker-choice.

Fact is, we can already do that shit day2 if the items are truely random. I really dont see a way around it for the alien.

##Call gm:

Will the alien infection effects on the votes only be registered in the final votecount or during any votecount?

I'd like anyone who has time to comment on Ezio's claim that he is the Alien.

My theories are as follows, in order of likelihood in my thinking:

1. Ezio is Mafia and is worried about the Alien (b/c NK immume) and wants a rxn test to see if he spots the real alien.

2. Ezio is the Alien and wants to protect himself with the holy shield of WIFOM.

3. Ezio is shit town dicking about in an anti-town, anti-solving way.

I'd like anyone who has time to comment on Ezio's claim that he is the Alien.

My theories are as follows, in order of likelihood in my thinking:

1. Ezio is Mafia and is worried about the Alien (b/c NK immume) and wants a rxn test to see if he spots the real alien.

2. Ezio is the Alien and wants to protect himself with the holy shield of WIFOM.

3. Ezio is shit town dicking about in an anti-town, anti-solving way.

atm I'm tempted to believe in his claim, he hasn't shown any tendencies to fakeclaim for shits and giggles (unlike say, Atto or Brain) or even to troll (like ghug with his scum claim awhile back lol)

but the way Vecna responded seems like he's certain of the third theory---@Vecna, could you elaborate a lil' bit? (unless you did so to move topic off, then feel free to not respond)

and if I read correctly Ezio also claimed the ray gun(?), which is leaning me towards the joking!Ezio theory--although it'd be amusing if rng did land the alien with the one item that can kill them xD

the first seems plausible, especially as there's a day chat, so just because he hasn't been here posting doesn't mean he's gone.

there's also the possibility that he's town and testing for alien, but no idea how effective that would be.

This, Damo.

Not the usual attention to detail that im used to from EMC.

[Vecna]

Hey everyone.

I'm the alien. I've also got the alien shooting gun thingy so nobody can shoot me. I don't really wanna read the rules to figure out how my role works. Can someone explain how this works real quick?

I saw someone say that I'm gonna get found out day 3 anyways so I assume this doesn't really matter much

Now this is how you shitpost

Or completely fuck yourself in the anal gland if true, which would also be hilarious

Ooh sorry, forgot about your later post considering the other option, oops

there was this that I missed

And I -could- actually see Ezio just realizing that theres no real way around the proposed D3 plan and just full claiming hoping we ignore him for now and engage in a town vs mafia war where he ends up skirting by to a point where it comes down to us making a kingmaker-choice.

Fact is, we can already do that shit day2 if the items are truely random. I really dont see a way around it for the alien.

[snip]

so second and third theory, ignore that previous post (this is what I get for being lazy in reading xd)

Fair enough

[e.m.c^42]

What did you like about emc? I personally haven't been a fan this game.

Actually, @Vapor, I second this xD

have been deliberately acting rather shitty (more than my usual ability level of shitty)

but then, it was outright stated by me---(which I guess isn't that town-productive, true, but it's fun so who cares :D)

also, what do you find iffy about worcej? apart from him discussing just the alien mechs

[Squigs44]

What did you like about emc? I personally haven't been a fan this game.

Actually, @Vapor, I second this xD

have been deliberately acting rather shitty (more than my usual ability level of shitty)

but then, it was outright stated by me---(which I guess isn't that town-productive, true, but it's fun so who cares :D)

also, what do you find iffy about worcej? apart from him discussing just the alien mechs

Why? How does this help town?

[Squigs44]

it's so weird that damo is talking/active so early lol

he hasn't "later crocodile'd" and left for 50 pages yet

And what do you think this means?

Dunno, possibly NAI, we're also without the usual shitposters, so it might be that too making him stand out in activity--
(come back to life peterbot, we miss you :*

but just pointing out that I personally found a difference, am leaving the analysis to people who know him better XD

Emc, I want you to do your own analysis