MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[bozotheclown]

I still think we all self vote today.

Here is a compromise, you, me and rdrivera vote for worcej, everyone else self votes.

Explain how this helps?

Self voting will not kill the alien, it just has the potential to identify him. If the alien infected N1 and his infected is still alive, the alien is not going to kill himself by leaving his vote on himself at EOD. Also, worcej has made it clear he is not going to cooperate by self voting. If you, me, and rdrivera (the uncced driver) vote for worcej while everyone else self votes, worcej will get lynched and the alien will still be identified if there is a N1 infected player around.

[Percy Williams]

Percy seriously this is something you need to learn quick.

When you post, you MUST know what phase it is. You actually broke the rules last EoD but the GM was gentle on you.

Trust me, I'm actually a strict rule followed kind of guy/ mentality, I really hate that I broke the rules, even accidentally. But I thought the bot was still not connected, and there is nothing we can do now. But just for you, I will always check the bot in the future, sensei.

[Percy Williams]

##VOTE JAMIET

WE LYNCH WORCEJ TOMORROW

TODAY WE CATCH THE ALIEN

##PERCY WILLIAMS
This feels so wrong
But YES, JAMIET LEADER OF THE TOWN. I SHALL OBEY YOUR EVERY WHIM!

Thank you.

You may have a biscuit.

YAY! (I like biscuits).

[bozotheclown]

Here is a compromise, you, me and rdrivera vote for worcej, everyone else self votes.

Explain how this helps?

Self voting will not kill the alien, it just has the potential to identify him. If the alien infected N1 and his infected is still alive, the alien is not going to kill himself by leaving his vote on himself at EOD. Also, worcej has made it clear he is not going to cooperate by self voting. If you, me, and rdrivera (the uncced driver) vote for worcej while everyone else self votes, worcej will get lynched and the alien will still be identified if there is a N1 infected player around.

Actually, we need five worcej voters to guarantee worcej gets lynched, since the alien could potentially vote for whoever worcej is voting for to put that player at four votes (if the alien has the extra vote from a N1 infected).

[Percy Williams]

Here is a compromise, you, me and rdrivera vote for worcej, everyone else self votes.

Explain how this helps?

Self voting will not kill the alien, it just has the potential to identify him. If the alien infected N1 and his infected is still alive, the alien is not going to kill himself by leaving his vote on himself at EOD. Also, worcej has made it clear he is not going to cooperate by self voting. If you, me, and rdrivera (the uncced driver) vote for worcej while everyone else self votes, worcej will get lynched and the alien will still be identified if there is a N1 infected player around.

This plan works for everything if the consensus is that anyone who doesn't vote for themselves is either the Alien, or Mafia. I will take this policy. I also don't believe that compromise works. This plan requires complete compliance.

[worcej]

Here is a compromise, you, me and rdrivera vote for worcej, everyone else self votes.

Explain how this helps?

Self voting will not kill the alien, it just has the potential to identify him. If the alien infected N1 and his infected is still alive, the alien is not going to kill himself by leaving his vote on himself at EOD. Also, worcej has made it clear he is not going to cooperate by self voting. If you, me, and rdrivera (the uncced driver) vote for worcej while everyone else self votes, worcej will get lynched and the alien will still be identified if there is a N1 infected player around.

This would be the perfect way for the alien to hide btw, nice plan their bozo :D

[e.m.c^42]

Actually, we need five worcej voters to guarantee worcej gets lynched, since the alien could potentially vote for whoever worcej is voting for to put that player at four votes (if the alien has the extra vote from a N1 infected).

Hmm, the tricky part here I guess would be making sure the 5 that are voting for worcej don't include the alien and his infectee, or that the infectee doesn't vote for worcej.

which tbh the logistics of preventing so are beyond me, just going to wait for someone (like you lol) to figure out something xd

so I guess I get Jamie's insistence with total compliance.

[Percy Williams]

Finally caught up! Sorry for the rough patch where I wasn't, now I will say
For sure town:
Jamiet( he just gets intense it seems)
Thamrick (despite his misgivings about me)

I also am certain Worcej is scum, with some suspicion on Rdr, unless I read that part wrong.

Hopefully I don't fall quite so far behind.

[worcej]

Explain how this helps?

Self voting will not kill the alien, it just has the potential to identify him. If the alien infected N1 and his infected is still alive, the alien is not going to kill himself by leaving his vote on himself at EOD. Also, worcej has made it clear he is not going to cooperate by self voting. If you, me, and rdrivera (the uncced driver) vote for worcej while everyone else self votes, worcej will get lynched and the alien will still be identified if there is a N1 infected player around.

This would be the perfect way for the alien to hide btw, nice plan their bozo :D

Bozo as alien puts his infectee on a vote for me to hide who it is and make you all think no alien infection, making you forget and move beyond that :D

[Percy Williams]

Actually, we need five worcej voters to guarantee worcej gets lynched, since the alien could potentially vote for whoever worcej is voting for to put that player at four votes (if the alien has the extra vote from a N1 infected).

Hmm, the tricky part here I guess would be making sure the 5 that are voting for worcej don't include the alien and his infectee, or that the infectee doesn't vote for worcej.

which tbh the logistics of preventing so are beyond me, just going to wait for someone (like you lol) to figure out something xd

so I guess I get Jamie's insistence with total compliance.

I think anything but total compliance undermines the plan.

[rdrivera2005]

Actually, we need five worcej voters to guarantee worcej gets lynched, since the alien could potentially vote for whoever worcej is voting for to put that player at four votes (if the alien has the extra vote from a N1 infected).

Hmm, the tricky part here I guess would be making sure the 5 that are voting for worcej don't include the alien and his infectee, or that the infectee doesn't vote for worcej.

which tbh the logistics of preventing so are beyond me, just going to wait for someone (like you lol) to figure out something xd

so I guess I get Jamie's insistence with total compliance.

The problem with total compliance is that if for some reason the N1 infected isn't alive or Alien decided to not infect N1 or was roleblocked (sorry Ike) then the plan fails and Worcej chooses who to lynch and still have his powers at night and we have to repeat this next day.
But we need four votes on Worcej, then the worst case is a tie but we identify the Alien. Or we don't identify the Alien because there isn't a N1 infected, but we lynch scum Worcej.

[worcej]

I think anything but total compliance undermines the plan.

Real talk: worst case scenario actually is I get to pick who to lynch if the alien didn't infect, so I get to kill one of you at will. Don't worry though, you could revive the PR when you see fit if I get lucky

Most likely case - the vote is tied and a no-lynch happens, you get me when you want to.

[worcej]

Actually, we need five worcej voters to guarantee worcej gets lynched, since the alien could potentially vote for whoever worcej is voting for to put that player at four votes (if the alien has the extra vote from a N1 infected).

Hmm, the tricky part here I guess would be making sure the 5 that are voting for worcej don't include the alien and his infectee, or that the infectee doesn't vote for worcej.

which tbh the logistics of preventing so are beyond me, just going to wait for someone (like you lol) to figure out something xd

so I guess I get Jamie's insistence with total compliance.

The problem with total compliance is that if for some reason the N1 infected isn't alive or Alien decided to not infect N1 or was roleblocked (sorry Ike) then the plan fails and Worcej chooses who to lynch and still have his powers at night and we have to repeat this next day.
But we need four votes on Worcej, then the worst case is a tie but we identify the Alien. Or we don't identify the Alien because there isn't a N1 infected, but we lynch scum Worcej.

Again, or the alien and the N1 infected is voting for me.

[e.m.c^42]

am not sure how serious I should consider worcej's statements lol

he's reached the stage when he can happily spew both crap and truth and gain incredible enjoyment from watching us scramble around :p

but okay, your bozo point is considered.
if we're gonna tinfoil I might as well suspect Jamie of being scum too, as to get off (up to) 3 or 4 kills XD
one gained from throwing the lynch after we all selfvote, one from the nk, and maybe one more from an assassin shot, and if one of them has an item another death lmfao.

[worcej]

The alien wants to vote for me and get their infected player on me too, just an FYI for all you townies out there :)

[worcej]

You get to learn the most by subjecting yourself to my will. Like I said, there is really one person I want dead right now, and that's the medicine man. Anyone else can be revived if your medicine man wants it.

[e.m.c^42]

The alien wants to vote for me and get their infected player on me too, just an FYI for all you townies out there :)

I've just realized something.

how do you know you aren't the infected one :D

[Percy Williams]

The plan does also depend on people not wanting to be instant scum. We already know worcej is mafia, so he has nothing to lose.

Exceedingly dramatically:
Jamiet has abandoned us! Guide us thamrick! Whatever could we do without a solid town to make choices for us!

[Percy Williams]

You get to learn the most by subjecting yourself to my will. Like I said, there is really one person I want dead right now, and that's the medicine man. Anyone else can be revived if your medicine man wants it.

We do need to fear the doc being struck down, he has a chance to save one mislynch. If the Doc stays alive, they can save whoever gets lynched by the shifting alien. Come to think of it, you mechanics studiers, is there a good use for the doctor's alien infection cure action?

[Percy Williams]

Also, quick thought,
##CALL GM
Does the alien infection votes get directly and automatically applied to where they vote, or does the alien get to choose where the votes go?
(It would be embarrassing if we got this premise wrong)