MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[bozotheclown]

I was assuming Ezio's Alien Ray Gun claim was fake and that he was trying to draw the Item Thief. If scum had the Alien Ray Gun, dargorygel seems like an odd choice to use it on since he was starting to draw suspicion because of his read like that included damo as scum.

That should say "reads list".

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE EZIO

[bozotheclown]

My guess is a town who scum read dargorygel targeted him with the Alien Ray Gun so that it would be used before the Item Thief had a chance to take it. If so, I think this was a good play, and the shooter should not claim it yet so the Item Thief does not know he no longer has an item.

[bozotheclown]

I already quoted you saying this. Like, earlier in this chain of quotes. Here it is again, since you can't remember anything past two posts ago:

Well, I am caught up.

I honestly wanted to wait for the D3 strat of voting for ourselves, but if the group wants to take the alien out now then so be it - ##vote Ezio.

Back to work. I'll be around EOD on mobile.

So when I said "expressed wanting to keep Ezio alive during day 1", does "I honestly wanted to wait for the D3 strat of voting for ourselves, but if the group wants to take the alien out now then so be it" not count?

Expressing the desire to have waited for the D3 strategy to hunt the alien does not equal preserve the life of Ezio. That is a narrative stretch, which you are trying to do with me right now. Especially the 'all of day 1' part when the only post you are quoting was in the last hour of gameplay and that I had over 22 hours of silence between that post and my last.

More narrative stretching by you: You are implicating I found people who wanted to keep Ezio alive as scum is a false representation of what I actually did.

I said the people who moved off of Ezio when he was the majority lynch were the scum in my pool. I hardly consider those people to be in the camp of 'wanting to keep Ezio alive' when they had votes to lynch him. I see them moving votes near EOD a sign of vote manipulation, which to me is more of a scum action than a town aligned action.

This response to Squigs can right as the EOD correction to announce Squigs as the NK. Could this be a fake town tell?

[e.m.c^42]

I'm just waiting for Ezio to say something before thinking more; is everyone else doing the same? :P

it's gotten quiet for so many people on lol

[Vaporwave]

has Ezio achieved real punk status?

did he goo the dargorygel?

[bozotheclown]

has Ezio achieved real punk status?

did he goo the dargorygel?

I think we will find Ezio did not have the Alien Ray Gun.

[Vecna]

Darg was shot by scum. Hiding that godfather. Trying to make us think a scum was vaporized.

[Vaporwave]

Neph is quite spicy

I'm digging his 'against the consensus' lean on Vecna, very gutsy

make love not war, you're both townies

[xorxes]

My guess is a town who scum read dargorygel targeted him with the Alien Ray Gun so that it would be used before the Item Thief had a chance to take it. If so, I think this was a good play, and the shooter should not claim it yet so the Item Thief does not know he no longer has an item.

I don't agree. Not knowing dargo's flip hurts us more than the chance of the gun being stolen.

[bozotheclown]

So a quick skim of Squigs indicates that he scumread
- Jamie
- Vecna
- Worcej
- Me

Town read
- Bozo
- Rd

##vote Vecna

If I was scum I would have NKed Squigs to lock in his town read.

[Vaporwave]

has Ezio achieved real punk status?

did he goo the dargorygel?

I think we will find Ezio did not have the Alien Ray Gun.

if Ezio is town he punked the moofia twice: by claiming and retracting 30 minutes before EOD thus creating chaos and fooling them during night thinking he has the gun

Man, Tom Bombadil has competition

[Vecna]

My guess is a town who scum read dargorygel targeted him with the Alien Ray Gun so that it would be used before the Item Thief had a chance to take it. If so, I think this was a good play, and the shooter should not claim it yet so the Item Thief does not know he no longer has an item.

I don't agree. Not knowing dargo's flip hurts us more than the chance of the gun being stolen.

If he had the gun, scum couldve stolen it regardless. Unless the driver interfered.

This was what I was hinting at.

Ezio made himself the center of attention.

Drawing onto himself the attention of the alien DNA cop (quite likely)

Also potentially drawing onto him the Item thief (if he is town)

The most logical course of action that couldve been anticipated by Ezio was the driver targetting him. But that would majorly fuck up the result of the DNA cop.

This all just stinks like some masked Pr hunt.

[bozotheclown]

My guess is a town who scum read dargorygel targeted him with the Alien Ray Gun so that it would be used before the Item Thief had a chance to take it. If so, I think this was a good play, and the shooter should not claim it yet so the Item Thief does not know he no longer has an item.

I don't agree. Not knowing dargo's flip hurts us more than the chance of the gun being stolen.

I don't think it is too bad, when we catch 4 of the scum/alien, we will know what dargorygel's alignment was. If dargorygel was the Alien Ray Gun holder's top scum read, I think it was worth the shot.

[worcej]

I already quoted you saying this. Like, earlier in this chain of quotes. Here it is again, since you can't remember anything past two posts ago:



So when I said "expressed wanting to keep Ezio alive during day 1", does "I honestly wanted to wait for the D3 strat of voting for ourselves, but if the group wants to take the alien out now then so be it" not count?

Expressing the desire to have waited for the D3 strategy to hunt the alien does not equal preserve the life of Ezio. That is a narrative stretch, which you are trying to do with me right now. Especially the 'all of day 1' part when the only post you are quoting was in the last hour of gameplay and that I had over 22 hours of silence between that post and my last.

More narrative stretching by you: You are implicating I found people who wanted to keep Ezio alive as scum is a false representation of what I actually did.

I said the people who moved off of Ezio when he was the majority lynch were the scum in my pool. I hardly consider those people to be in the camp of 'wanting to keep Ezio alive' when they had votes to lynch him. I see them moving votes near EOD a sign of vote manipulation, which to me is more of a scum action than a town aligned action.

This response to Squigs can right as the EOD correction to announce Squigs as the NK. Could this be a fake town tell?

I waited for beginning of day to continue the conversation. I clicked the submit before reading the content since I had it drafted up.

[Vecna]

has Ezio achieved real punk status?

did he goo the dargorygel?

I think we will find Ezio did not have the Alien Ray Gun.

if Ezio is town he punked the moofia twice: by claiming and retracting 30 minutes before EOD thus creating chaos and fooling them during night thinking he has the gun

Man, Tom Bombadil has competition

Yep, thats the logical alternative to the scum motivation.

Tom bombadil turned many a person into an aspiring hero

[xorxes]

My guess is a town who scum read dargorygel targeted him with the Alien Ray Gun so that it would be used before the Item Thief had a chance to take it. If so, I think this was a good play, and the shooter should not claim it yet so the Item Thief does not know he no longer has an item.

I don't agree. Not knowing dargo's flip hurts us more than the chance of the gun being stolen.

I don't think it is too bad, when we catch 4 of the scum/alien, we will know what dargorygel's alignment was. If dargorygel was the Alien Ray Gun holder's top scum read, I think it was worth the shot.

We know he wasn't the alien because the alien can't die at night, right? Or was ray gun an exception?

[xorxes]

I don't agree. Not knowing dargo's flip hurts us more than the chance of the gun being stolen.

I don't think it is too bad, when we catch 4 of the scum/alien, we will know what dargorygel's alignment was. If dargorygel was the Alien Ray Gun holder's top scum read, I think it was worth the shot.

We know he wasn't the alien because the alien can't die at night, right? Or was ray gun an exception?

Scratch that. Ray gun overrides night immunity.

[bozotheclown]

My guess is a town who scum read dargorygel targeted him with the Alien Ray Gun so that it would be used before the Item Thief had a chance to take it. If so, I think this was a good play, and the shooter should not claim it yet so the Item Thief does not know he no longer has an item.

I don't agree. Not knowing dargo's flip hurts us more than the chance of the gun being stolen.

If he had the gun, scum couldve stolen it regardless. Unless the driver interfered.

This was what I was hinting at.

Ezio made himself the center of attention.

Drawing onto himself the attention of the alien DNA cop (quite likely)

Also potentially drawing onto him the Item thief (if he is town)

The most logical course of action that couldve been anticipated by Ezio was the driver targetting him. But that would majorly fuck up the result of the DNA cop.

This all just stinks like some masked Pr hunt.

Hopefully the driver was trying to protect NK targets. If the scum had the Alien Ray Gun, it is possible it was driven onto dargorygel.

[thamrick]

Tham's Takes™ - xorxes is scum

96% gut feeling