MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Squigs44]

google isn't helping, but what is LHF?

Low hanging fruit

[e.m.c^42]

google isn't helping, but what is LHF?

Low hanging fruit

Ah okay. So basically "easy lynch target/easy scum-read target"?

[worcej]

Also, I get little support with my plan early on other than some people liking the idea. Squigs, if I recall, you wanted to even suppress the discussion for some reason until D3.

[Nephthys]

google isn't helping, but what is LHF?

Low hanging fruit, easy to start a wagon on

[Nephthys]

First of all, who actually wants to appear scummy? Thats weird af.

I hope this is a joke

Hehe, Only somewhat tbh,

I think he may have been angling that if he said he was going to try be scummy he would get more lenience.

[Squigs44]

False.

A Townie shouldn't have to re-read to know what they want in the game. Inconsistency happens among town, but it is much more likely in scum. Especially when that inconsistency is agenda driven, like your scum reads that resulted.

Then you should scum read me every game because my opinion changes as people voice and discuss.

Your opinion should be changing, but it should be changing for good reason, as new information is available. What I take issue with is you saying that some of the players are scum because they wanted to leave Ezio alive during day 1, when you, throughout all of day 1, also expressed wanting to keep Ezio alive during day 1.

[Vecna]

First off I will start with Vecna because most people seem to be townreading him and I do not. He is one of my top Scumreads.

Vecna, to my understanding has never before rolled scum. This means he has his town play well and truly entrenched. To avoid suspicion he then must copy that exact meta to avoid suspicion.

The thing I tend to not most about Vecna is that his posts are short and sweet, one question and he moves on.

This game, most of his posts (pre pg 20), are unnecessarily long and verbose. There is nothing to the point about them at all. It's textbook trying to imitate something. On page 20 I drop in with my "Vecna is hard scum". Following this you will note that his posts immediately become more succinct and to the point. 5 pages later he then calls me out "wishing that I would participate". I think this is him hoping that this would cause a town to pick it up and start my wagon.

He also mentions being bored which also tends to point scum as they have to information. Many other people have also done it though so more it adds to the case than it gives me the read.

Vecna sits as my 2nd scumread


In terms of connections, I felt as though this exchange between EMC and Vecna was very off

but the way Vecna responded seems like he's certain of the third theory---@Vecna, could you elaborate a lil' bit? (unless you did so to move topic off, then feel free to not respond)

Seems like EMC as the new guy potentially not trying to piss off one of the "better players" and giving him a free out.

What a load of horse shit man.

My play has been distinctively different from the last bunch of games. Plenty of people took note and were suspicious about it. I know I generally get a lot more suspicion cast on me when im live posting and reacting. So why would I do that exactly if I want to imitate my townplay? Not even gonna dignify the post length thing

Also ive rolled scum about 4 times before on this site.

I stated I was bored with Ezio's reaction test and that I felt it was dangerous for town and potentially a scum orchestrated gimmick. This just feels like youre trying to piggyback onto a comment that Squigs made earlier.

And if I wanted you to be a wagon id have made you one myself. After the last few games I really dont get why you think id want some other person to take note of that post and wagon you. I wanted you to actually participate so I could read you, because when youre participating youre quite easy to read for me. I called you out because I felt you were scared of getting read - like last game when you N1'd me because I was onto your ass.

[LordQuas]

##GM NOTE
Please remember the rules in regards to +1ing. Thank you.

sorry >.<

Wait, did my eyes deceive me?

it was my +1 and it was ON jamie's song lyrics dude lmfao

[xorxes]

If I'm disintegrated tonight, lynch Ezio without hesitation.

If I die more benignly, lynch dargo D2 and then resurrect me N2. We can do the alien thing D3 and we go from there.

Don't lynch Vapor, Bozo, rivera, Vecna, Squigs or Jamiet tomorrow.

Counterwagon to dargo could be Moscow, Percy, worcej. Maybe Neph but now he's looking a little better.

emc needs to be kept under surveillance.

bo_sox has impressed me a bit tonight. Ike hasn't.

If I forgot anyone it's a null.

[Squigs44]

sorry >.<

Wait, did my eyes deceive me?

it was my +1 and it was ON jamie's song lyrics dude lmfao

Jamie had +1'd one of my posts, but he took it away promptly.

[worcej]

False.

A Townie shouldn't have to re-read to know what they want in the game. Inconsistency happens among town, but it is much more likely in scum. Especially when that inconsistency is agenda driven, like your scum reads that resulted.

Then you should scum read me every game because my opinion changes as people voice and discuss.

Your opinion should be changing, but it should be changing for good reason, as new information is available. What I take issue with is you saying that some of the players are scum because they wanted to leave Ezio alive during day 1, when you, throughout all of day 1, also expressed wanting to keep Ezio alive during day 1.

That last statement is putting words in my mouth there Squigs. All I said was the alien could be caught on D3 and explained the method behind it. Never once did I argue to save the life of Ezio.

In the vacuum of Ezio vs Ike vs Damo, Damo had the least substance of a reason to be lynched.

[Vecna]

If I do die here, dont forget the potential that that post from Neph was him trying to distance himself from the NK target

[ND]

Phase is over
(this will take some time. Be patient)

[Squigs44]

Then you should scum read me every game because my opinion changes as people voice and discuss.

Your opinion should be changing, but it should be changing for good reason, as new information is available. What I take issue with is you saying that some of the players are scum because they wanted to leave Ezio alive during day 1, when you, throughout all of day 1, also expressed wanting to keep Ezio alive during day 1.

That last statement is putting words in my mouth there Squigs. All I said was the alien could be caught on D3 and explained the method behind it. Never once did I argue to save the life of Ezio.

In the vacuum of Ezio vs Ike vs Damo, Damo had the least substance of a reason to be lynched.

I already quoted you saying this. Like, earlier in this chain of quotes. Here it is again, since you can't remember anything past two posts ago:

Well, I am caught up.

I honestly wanted to wait for the D3 strat of voting for ourselves, but if the group wants to take the alien out now then so be it - ##vote Ezio.

Back to work. I'll be around EOD on mobile.

So when I said "expressed wanting to keep Ezio alive during day 1", does "I honestly wanted to wait for the D3 strat of voting for ourselves, but if the group wants to take the alien out now then so be it" not count?

[ND]

NIGHT ONE RESULT:

About a mile away from the base a young woman was staring at the night sky. She was tired, but still excited. She came from an unremarkable desert town and had never dreamed of getting this close to what the locals called ‘Paradise Ranch’ she was supposed to meet her boyfriend out here, but he hadn’t showed up yet. He got an early start with his LSD earlier.

She signed when suddenly out of nowhere this remarkable flare of intense crimson and unholy green flew through the sky.

“Fire in the Sky” she said softly and then exhaled “Oh my...”

Before she could do anything else she heard footsteps.

“Frank! You better not have taken all the good stuff! We gotta get back out picking tomorrow! ” She turned around at him about to sigh when her eyes widened in surprise.

LILLY BLUE the VANILLA TOWNIE was KILLED

IN ADDITION, nearby there was a bubbling puddle of goo and someone was gooified and utterly disintegrated. No role, information, etc will be revealed about it.

FURTHERMORE, Dargorygel has agreed to be my Co-GM and will REPLACE Attorney. He has not been subbed out and there is no replacement for him.

Day 2 has BEGUN

[ND]

Damn, I messed up Squigs was LILLY BLUE and DIED he was a VT

[e.m.c^42]

Well, two dead people, and we don't know the names of either of them? rip

[worcej]

I already quoted you saying this. Like, earlier in this chain of quotes. Here it is again, since you can't remember anything past two posts ago:

Well, I am caught up.

I honestly wanted to wait for the D3 strat of voting for ourselves, but if the group wants to take the alien out now then so be it - ##vote Ezio.

Back to work. I'll be around EOD on mobile.

So when I said "expressed wanting to keep Ezio alive during day 1", does "I honestly wanted to wait for the D3 strat of voting for ourselves, but if the group wants to take the alien out now then so be it" not count?

Expressing the desire to have waited for the D3 strategy to hunt the alien does not equal preserve the life of Ezio. That is a narrative stretch, which you are trying to do with me right now. Especially the 'all of day 1' part when the only post you are quoting was in the last hour of gameplay and that I had over 22 hours of silence between that post and my last.

More narrative stretching by you: You are implicating I found people who wanted to keep Ezio alive as scum is a false representation of what I actually did.

I said the people who moved off of Ezio when he was the majority lynch were the scum in my pool. I hardly consider those people to be in the camp of 'wanting to keep Ezio alive' when they had votes to lynch him. I see them moving votes near EOD a sign of vote manipulation, which to me is more of a scum action than a town aligned action.

[e.m.c^42]

Damn, I messed up Squigs was LILLY BLUE and DIED he was a VT

oh nvm xD

[worcej]

Well, two dead people, and we don't know the names of either of them? rip

My guess is darg was one of them.