MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

What?

Is this confusion?

Is this reality?

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide,
There's no escape from Jamiet.

Open your reads,
Look in your QTees and see,
Bo's just a poor boy,
Darg needs no sympathy,
Because Ike's easy come,.easy go, little high, little low,
Any way the votes go, doesn't really matter... to me....

Mama,
Just vaporized a man,
Put my ray against his head,
Pulled my trigger,
Now he's dead,

Mama,
D2 had just begun,
But now Ezio has thrown it all away,

Mama, ooooooh,
Didn't mean to Call GM,
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow,
Carry on, carry on,
As if claims don't really matter.

Too late
My slime has come
Sends shivers down my spine
DNA's aching all the time,
Goodbye everybody,
I've got to go,
Gotta leave it all behind and face the noise.
Mama, ooooh, I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never confirmed at all.

I see a little silhouetto of a Tham
Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Tham-dango?

Thunderbolt and lightning, Vecna's very frightening me.

Vapolileo, Vapolilelo, Vapolilelo, Vapolilelo Figaro,
Magnificoooo.....

Bo's just a poor boy nobody loves him,
He's just a poor boy from a poor family,
Spare him his life from this Mafiaosity.

Easy come, easy go, will you let me go?
Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
(Call GM!) Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
(Call GM!) Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
Ah, no no no no no no no!

Mama Mia! (Mama Mia!) Mama Mia let me go.
Bozotheclown has a Durga put aside for me! For me! For meeee!

So you think you can vote me and spit in my eye?
So you think you can endvote and leave me to die?

Ezio, baby! Can't do this to me baby!
Just gotta get out, Just gotta get right outta here!

Nothing really matters, anyone can see,
Nothing really matters,
Nothing really matters,
To me....

Anywhere the scum slips......

[Jamiet99uk]

Face the noise = Face the *noose*

[Vecna]

I think Jamie made a good point that using the Alien Ray Gun on anyone we do not know is scum or alien being more harmful to town than helpful. Vecna also made a good point about the Item Thief.

I think that if Ezio really does have the Alien Ray Gun, the best use of it would be to prove he is town by shooting himself with it tonight to keep it from falling into scum hands.

wtf? what nonsense is this? Shooting himself wouldnt even stop scum from stealing it. The kill is later in the order of actions

[e.m.c^42]

@Jamie

*clap clap clap*

[Vecna]

That's fair, but he's flown enough under the radar he's not gonna be the lynch today.

Today should be between me/Ike/Damo.

I wonder what other genius predicted those three wagons

I still think you lead town to town/town/town wagons.

Maybe. Maybe not.

[e.m.c^42]

but I've never seen Jamie do something like this lol

is this normal?

[bozotheclown]

I think Jamie made a good point that using the Alien Ray Gun on anyone we do not know is scum or alien being more harmful to town than helpful. Vecna also made a good point about the Item Thief.

I think that if Ezio really does have the Alien Ray Gun, the best use of it would be to prove he is town by shooting himself with it tonight to keep it from falling into scum hands.

wtf? what nonsense is this? Shooting himself wouldnt even stop scum from stealing it. The kill is later in the order of actions

If that is true then it is too late if the Item Thief takes his item N1 and trying to shoot himself N1 will no go through, but if the Item Thief does not take his item N1, it will prevent the Item Thief from taking it another night. This is all assuming Ezio really has the Alien Ray Gun.

[Jamiet99uk]

but I've never seen Jamie do something like this lol

is this normal?

Is this sarcasm?

[e.m.c^42]

but I've never seen Jamie do something like this lol

is this normal?

Is this sarcasm?

oh yes, Jamie dear

[rdrivera2005]

Is this confusion?

Is this reality?

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide,
There's no escape from Jamiet.

Open your reads,
Look in your QTees and see,
Bo's just a poor boy,
Darg needs no sympathy,
Because Ike's easy come,.easy go, little high, little low,
Any way the votes go, doesn't really matter... to me....

Mama,
Just vaporized a man,
Put my ray against his head,
Pulled my trigger,
Now he's dead,

Mama,
D2 had just begun,
But now Ezio has thrown it all away,

Mama, ooooooh,
Didn't mean to Call GM,
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow,
Carry on, carry on,
As if claims don't really matter.

Too late
My slime has come
Sends shivers down my spine
DNA's aching all the time,
Goodbye everybody,
I've got to go,
Gotta leave it all behind and face the noise.
Mama, ooooh, I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never confirmed at all.

I see a little silhouetto of a Tham
Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Tham-dango?

Thunderbolt and lightning, Vecna's very frightening me.

Vapolileo, Vapolilelo, Vapolilelo, Vapolilelo Figaro,
Magnificoooo.....

Bo's just a poor boy nobody loves him,
He's just a poor boy from a poor family,
Spare him his life from this Mafiaosity.

Easy come, easy go, will you let me go?
Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
(Call GM!) Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
(Call GM!) Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
Ah, no no no no no no no!

Mama Mia! (Mama Mia!) Mama Mia let me go.
Bozotheclown has a Durga put aside for me! For me! For meeee!

So you think you can vote me and spit in my eye?
So you think you can endvote and leave me to die?

Ezio, baby! Can't do this to me baby!
Just gotta get out, Just gotta get right outta here!

Nothing really matters, anyone can see,
Nothing really matters,
Nothing really matters,
To me....

Anywhere the scum slips......

I really started laughing at workplace, people looked me oddly.

Wish I could +1 it.

[e.m.c^42]

am rereading Darg's old games atm (which thankfully, is pretty quick lol)

and I have to note that it's a bit strange for him to post full copy-paste read lists like this; don't know if it's just having more time though.

[Vecna]

Also, emotional about the lynch Bo? I said they’re both horrible w2agons, and that’s about it. I tried to push Jamie, I actually got a few votes, but was forced to switch because there was no traction, go reread. Fucking Ezio almost got lynched and we were trying to prevent that.

You clearly indicated that they were horrible wagons and were generally deploring their existence in the last 10 minutes of the day. You can pick away at the verbiage I chose all day long, but I would say that the relative shift over a 12-18 minute timespan from when you were "indifferent" to lynches that weren't Jamie to when you decided that you actually cared was significant.

Your push on Jamie was minimal, and the same could be said for the others that jumped on Jamie. There was reason to try, and yet once he had three votes nobody was trying anymore.

Why were you trying to prevent Ezio from getting lynched? Obviously, I agree with the premise, but I'd still like to know your personal rationale.

I'm sorry @bo, I was a dick. No excuse

Are you sorry because you were a dick or are you sorry because I townread you?

Why would you want to lynch the guy whose role we already know on D1? That gives scum the opportunity to do jack fucking shit instead of actually making them do meaningful things.

Its a lot harder to blend for scum on later days though, and the alien will need to be lynched somewhat early regardless. Why does it matter exactly what day scum just get to "vote the alien"?

Because on D2 and beyond we at least have something to off of (i.e. D1, and all the other days we didn’t pile on someone), whereas if we do that on D1 we have nothing for D2. It is unquestionably better to have something on D2 than to have nothing on D2, whereas on the other days the information we have has added up cumulatively so it is less and less of an impediment to us to sacrifice a day worth of information as time goes on.

This is weird. Rdrivera and Bozo are the ones obvtowning this game.

Rdrivera is not quite there yet for me, but im curious to know what makes you say this.

Agree on Bozo

What makes you agree on bozo?

I assume that by the time I have read through the night that Squigs will have answered your ask of him, but if not, I’d like to know what he’s looking at too.

Concerning LQ
Not only does he seem more high strung... but he responds to every glance with defensive outbursts... kind of like I do when I am scum (or PR) and want to be unnoticed. While I might be reading my brain into him... I don't like it.

How did you manage to make a point about someone else exclusively about you, and why is your point about someone else that you made about yourself trying to explain meta that you aren't following in this game?

Im so confused by the sudden townlean again on LQ here? Do I interpret it correctly that this vote analysis made you change your mind? My impression of the last page was that youre scumreading him quite badly

My scumread of him was based on a post that stuck out to me in the moment. Upon rereading the entire sequence in its full context, which is what you snipped out of my original quote, it became pretty apparent to me that his wishy-washiness about dropping off the Ezio train was more him being rushed in a fast paced environment and thinking things through in the moment as opposed to him trying to sneak his vote elsewhere with flimsy reasoning.

FWIW - my scum pool is currently down to focusing on thamrick, Lord, and Ike for moving off of Ezio in the EOD spree because scum would not mind saving the alien lynch for another day.

a) You believe that Ezio is the alien? Why?
b) Who else moved off of Ezio? I made a nice post that should help you out with this conundrum.
c) What's the difference between what thamrick, LordQuas, and Ike did as opposed to any of those others that makes them stick out to you?

Neph has a completely distinct type of interacting compared to his previous game where he randed scum. There he used charm and plenty of cutesy speech inserted in his walls

Now he's a different guy, I think he's experimenting with playstyles thus making it difficult to have him lean in a specific direction

Why this change, Neph?

He also has a completely different style of when he was town. I made a post on why I think this points to scum Neph rather than town Neph.

Can you refer me to it?

I think that if Ezio really does have the Alien Ray Gun, the best use of it would be to prove he is town by shooting himself with it tonight to keep it from falling into scum hands.

This is an interesting idea.

For the Bozo question, its mostly the interactions he had with me. Bozo has quite a lot more conviction in how he argues with people and engages them as town. As scum I always feel he's way more held back and timid for a lack of a better word. During day1 he straight up attacked me several times in way where I could somewhat see where he was coming from. We always disagree on stuff, but he usually has a certain type of reasoning.

[Vecna]

Is this confusion?

Is this reality?

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide,
There's no escape from Jamiet.

Open your reads,
Look in your QTees and see,
Bo's just a poor boy,
Darg needs no sympathy,
Because Ike's easy come,.easy go, little high, little low,
Any way the votes go, doesn't really matter... to me....

Mama,
Just vaporized a man,
Put my ray against his head,
Pulled my trigger,
Now he's dead,

Mama,
D2 had just begun,
But now Ezio has thrown it all away,

Mama, ooooooh,
Didn't mean to Call GM,
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow,
Carry on, carry on,
As if claims don't really matter.

Too late
My slime has come
Sends shivers down my spine
DNA's aching all the time,
Goodbye everybody,
I've got to go,
Gotta leave it all behind and face the noise.
Mama, ooooh, I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never confirmed at all.

I see a little silhouetto of a Tham
Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Tham-dango?

Thunderbolt and lightning, Vecna's very frightening me.

Vapolileo, Vapolilelo, Vapolilelo, Vapolilelo Figaro,
Magnificoooo.....

Bo's just a poor boy nobody loves him,
He's just a poor boy from a poor family,
Spare him his life from this Mafiaosity.

Easy come, easy go, will you let me go?
Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
(Call GM!) Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
(Call GM!) Bismillah! No! We will not let you go!
Ah, no no no no no no no!

Mama Mia! (Mama Mia!) Mama Mia let me go.
Bozotheclown has a Durga put aside for me! For me! For meeee!

So you think you can vote me and spit in my eye?
So you think you can endvote and leave me to die?

Ezio, baby! Can't do this to me baby!
Just gotta get out, Just gotta get right outta here!

Nothing really matters, anyone can see,
Nothing really matters,
Nothing really matters,
To me....

Anywhere the scum slips......

This is a work of art indeed. Bravo

[LordQuas]

@bo the former, genuinely sorry

ezio shouldn't shoot himself that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard lol

and that song was gorgeous

[LordQuas]

darg is frozen af btw, has been showing up in the viewing the thread bit and there's really not much to catch up on so that's not an excuse

[xorxes]

this is not really unrelated but rereading Jamie's posts I've suddenly realized he's got a fucking hilarious sense of humor xD

there's so much deadpan or sarcasm that just leans the line of being absolutely serious

Jamiet can be as funny when he is being self-aware as when he is not.

The points he makes about Ezio's gun are all correct, but not something we should be discussing at night though.

[Jamiet99uk]

this is not really unrelated but rereading Jamie's posts I've suddenly realized he's got a fucking hilarious sense of humor xD

there's so much deadpan or sarcasm that just leans the line of being absolutely serious

Jamiet can be as funny when he is being self-aware as when he is not.

The points he makes about Ezio's gun are all correct, but not something we should be discussing at night though.

We wouldn't have to if Ezio hadn't demanded we make his gun claim one of the key issues of the phase.

Why do you think he did that?

[xorxes]

Damo666 I didn’t like his early greetings with Jamiet. And his short bursty posts through most of day 1 feel to me like he is trying to post for postings’ sake. Thus my gut feeling vote at the end of day 1… scum.

Really? You think damo is scum?

One down, four to go.

[Jamiet99uk]

About an hour to go.

I may miss EoN.

Top scumreads:
EZIO
DARGORYGEL
WORCEJ

Mild scumreads:
RAGINGIKE
MOSCOWFLEET
NEPHTHYS

Mild townreads:
VAPORWAVE
BO_SOX
XORXES

Stronger townreads:
MYSELF
SQUIGS
LORD QUAS

[Jamiet99uk]

(Null on the people not listed)