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Damian just looks scummy as shit. If I recall correctly, xorxes pointed it out nicely early on.
He then saw vecna (that was my forgotten town read) talk about a way to get ND lynched and hop off his wagon. It struck me as odd on a reread. Seems like xorxes wanted to use a "clearly town reason" to vote ND.

But I'm sticking to my reasoning on d1. Even though ATM I think xorxes is slightly more likely to be scum, if he's town he's worth way more than Damian. If Damian flips, the odds of xorxes being scum skyrockets and it's not worth keeping him around.

Plus, just looks at xorxes meta man. This is so completely wrong for him as town, and so completely in line with his scum play it's unreal.
He had a scumread, didn't find any connections to it, and didn't push anyone one onto it.

Look at the game where he was cop and scanned me. He knew one scum and immediately started making connections. He pushed people onto his scumread.
Any of that this game?

Ah fuck I've convinced me self.
##vote xorxes

TLDR:
Xorxes scum.
Damian scummy.

Ghug, flum, vecna town.

Ezio towniest of all for solving the game.

I honorsry scumread to squigges because of Tom's last breath. I kinda agree with it too, but mostly because Tom's pretty good at the game and probably best scumhunter aside from xorxes, who is not to be trusted.
(If balki doesn't take offense to that he's not reading the thread.)

##VOTE GHUG

The Squigs wagon is interesting. If he's town, it's pretty likely that ghug and/or Bozo are scum; if he's scum (which I think he is), it's possible that Bozo or ghug bussed him anyway. Of those two, Bozo looks scummiest, but ghug is more dangerous...

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:52 pm

##VOTE GHUG

The Squigs wagon is interesting. If he's town, it's pretty likely that ghug and/or Bozo are scum; if he's scum (which I think he is), it's possible that Bozo or ghug bussed him anyway. Of those two, Bozo looks scummiest, but ghug is more dangerous...

More dangerous? Aren't you on the record as thinking Ezio's suggestion that we consider anything other than scumminess is bad?

ghug wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:23 pm

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:52 pm

##VOTE GHUG

The Squigs wagon is interesting. If he's town, it's pretty likely that ghug and/or Bozo are scum; if he's scum (which I think he is), it's possible that Bozo or ghug bussed him anyway. Of those two, Bozo looks scummiest, but ghug is more dangerous...

More dangerous? Aren't you on the record as thinking Ezio's suggestion that we consider anything other than scumminess is bad?

Yep, but that was before there was a situation where I thought there was about a 50 percent chance of you being scum.

Also, as an addendum, and I haven't looked to see what I specifically said but I think this is accurate, I did not push back on Ezio's plan because we shouldn't "consider anything other than scumminess", I pushed back because making that the primary consideration is not useful.

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:52 pm

##VOTE GHUG

The Squigs wagon is interesting. If he's town, it's pretty likely that ghug and/or Bozo are scum; if he's scum (which I think he is), it's possible that Bozo or ghug bussed him anyway. Of those two, Bozo looks scummiest, but ghug is more dangerous...

Why is it likely there was a scum on Squigs if he is town?

Current vote count
Fluminator (1) ghug
bozotheclown (1) Squigs44
rdrivera2005 (1) Fluminator
Foxcastle (1) damian
xorxes (1) Ezio
ghug (1) Foxcastle

You have time. Everyone is getting lynched? No one is getting lynched.

lol

##vote squiggs

6 wagons and not one of them is squiggs. What is this.

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:48 pm

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:52 pm

##VOTE GHUG

The Squigs wagon is interesting. If he's town, it's pretty likely that ghug and/or Bozo are scum; if he's scum (which I think he is), it's possible that Bozo or ghug bussed him anyway. Of those two, Bozo looks scummiest, but ghug is more dangerous...

Why is it likely there was a scum on Squigs if he is town?

From what I have seen, scum tend to avoid clumping together, so I really doubt all three of them are on ND. That's not perfect in this case, because if Squigs was saved, then the scum had to support the ND wagon to do it. But even in that case, I think at least one scum would go somewhere else, and where better than to bus their scummate who they know is likely to remain on the chopping block in coming days?

If it was town-v-town, then scum didn't need to help the ND wagon at all. My general thought on scum is that they don't want to clump up and they want to blend in, they don't want to be implicated in a mislynch but also don't want to be seen totally avoiding the action, and so the second place wagon is a good place for one of them to land.

But I think this is the smallest game I've played, and that could make a difference (I don't see how, but maybe), and also they have a day chat, which means they can coordinate themselves much better if they do decide to bus/clump/whatever.

ghug wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:39 am

Ezio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:52 pm

@Foxcastle
How much are you considering the setup when you talk about NoLynch being a good idea vs a bad idea?

r u pr fish?

How'd you go from this post to strong town reading Ezio, considering he never posted in between you saying this and your town read?

I think I want to lynch either ghug or squiggs today.

actually

##Vote ghug
omgus

Hey flum, what do you think of Damian and xorxes?

Because imo those are the only people that matter right now. Too much else is null.

Also why are we still obsessing over the EoD wagons, but nobody seems to care about the Damian wagon dematerialize.