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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1241 Post by xorxes » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:55 pm

Yeah, I don't blame you for being skeptical. But I've been in your position before, and I have hammered PR claims for looking like utter shit and voted them and then been wrong.
Did you leave any crumbs?

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#1242 Post by Ezio » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 am

I'm back home now, eating a burrito. I'm patiently waiting my turn to say anything, except:
RIP BALKI!

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#1243 Post by xorxes » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:08 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:01 am
Was there reason to tell people that before more people claimed, xorxes?
Maybe I shouldn't have, but I thought you gave it away by asking damian if he was sure.

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#1244 Post by Foxcastle » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:13 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:55 pm

Yeah, I don't blame you for being skeptical. But I've been in your position before, and I have hammered PR claims for looking like utter shit and voted them and then been wrong.
Did you leave any crumbs?
No, I wasn’t sure if that was wise in general or especially in a closed setup and didn’t want to draw attention by asking.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1245 Post by xorxes » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:13 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:55 pm

Yeah, I don't blame you for being skeptical. But I've been in your position before, and I have hammered PR claims for looking like utter shit and voted them and then been wrong.
Did you leave any crumbs?
No, I wasn’t sure if that was wise in general or especially in a closed setup and didn’t want to draw attention by asking.
Do you believe damian's claim?

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#1246 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:17 am

I am a boring VT again. Never been a PR.

I don't think I believe Fox cop claim. But I might believe Bozo being scum.

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#1247 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:18 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:13 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:55 pm

Yeah, I don't blame you for being skeptical. But I've been in your position before, and I have hammered PR claims for looking like utter shit and voted them and then been wrong.
Did you leave any crumbs?
No, I wasn’t sure if that was wise in general or especially in a closed setup and didn’t want to draw attention by asking.
Come on, in a closed setup you have even more incentive to crumb.

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#1248 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:18 am

Back to my dinner. See you later.

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#1249 Post by damian » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:33 am

100% sure.

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#1250 Post by xorxes » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:38 am

damian wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:33 am
100% sure.
Did you crumb?

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#1251 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:45 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:38 am
damian wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:33 am
100% sure.
Did you crumb?
Can you wait to question Damian on this until everyone has claimed, please? I promise I have a reason.

Feel free to talk about other things in the mean time.

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#1252 Post by damian » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:48 am

I’ll reply to your question after Ghug has finished his thing

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#1253 Post by Ezio » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:30 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:45 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:38 am
damian wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:33 am
100% sure.
Did you crumb?
Can you wait to question Damian on this until everyone has claimed, please? I promise I have a reason.

Feel free to talk about other things in the mean time.
Oh you're waiting on me yea? I got nothing :(.

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#1254 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:49 am

Waiting on bozo now, but I don't really feel the need to let him hold us hostage.

Damian can go ahead and answer.

Ezio, explain the sudden xorxes read change from D2.

Damian, are you aware that your role is confirmable?

Vecna, anything to say?

Foxy, why bozo? How do Balki's flip and your scan change your reads?

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#1255 Post by damian » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:05 am

Yes I am aware, my extra vote shows up at the end of voting. I figure we either use it this phase to town confirm me. If we have a high confidence In our lynch. Or we save it for next phase so that it isn’t a loss.

I did crumb. This was it “I’m not sure who died and made Ezio chief” page 33. Figured it was a rare enough role to just straight up work it into conversation.

It’s also why I was town reading Flum so hard. If he was scum I would have expected scum to kill me, because he immediately ID’d me as following my PR meta

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#1256 Post by Ezio » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:07 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:49 am
Waiting on bozo now, but I don't really feel the need to let him hold us hostage.

Damian can go ahead and answer.

Ezio, explain the sudden xorxes read change from D2.

Damian, are you aware that your role is confirmable?

Vecna, anything to say?

Foxy, why bozo? How do Balki's flip and your scan change your reads?
Oh why I townread him so strongly yesterday but scumread him today?
Hugely: he was wrong again and didn't do enough for town. As I said, xorxes as town isn't gonna be wrong three days in a row.
The entire read was because he said the phrase "town points". It's a phrase he has never used as scum (that I've seen) before this game. It was rather flimsy, but it corresponded nicely with him making some posts that were productive.
I also wanted as much of the conversation to be about me as possible, and this seemed like a good way to do it; it might have even caused then to NK me if I was right.
All things considered, it seemed like a good ploy to go for.

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#1257 Post by Ezio » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:11 am

After balki flip, seems like xorxes Is basically confirmed scum.
Fox looks scum too.
Damian looks abysmal for his save.

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#1258 Post by damian » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:25 am

Looks like Balki was right about Ezio putting on a show... I think I’m leaning more town for Ezio now with his flip on Xorxes.

I stand by the decision I made. Lynching the cop claimant would have been a bad idea. Ghug was right that a tie would have probably been worse. And if we had lynched Fox we wouldn’t have got his claim that Bozo is guilty.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1259 Post by Foxcastle » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:49 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:13 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 am


Did you leave any crumbs?
No, I wasn’t sure if that was wise in general or especially in a closed setup and didn’t want to draw attention by asking.
Do you believe damian's claim?
I don't see why scum would make that claim. If Damian is scum, he just gave away his most powerful weapon, one they want to keep in reserve for the win. So I kind of have to, simply because giving that away as scum would be laughably bad play.

Another take, though, is that he's fake claiming. I've been townreading Damian, but if he's scum, he's doing this to mess with EOD wagons in the hope of somehow manipulating another mislynch. It's even possible he's town and this is a reaction test, or that he thinks he's being helpful by ensuring that the final wagons aren't close enough that a few last minute switches would cause a tie.
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:49 am
Foxy, why bozo? How do Balki's flip and your scan change your reads?
I really don't see how there wasn't scum on the Squigs wagon. So investigating Bozo helped me close that question.

Obviously with Balki's town flip, I am kinda fucked for useless here. Damian is next on my scum list, and his claim makes that a very interesting question, but even if it's Bozo+Damian, I still don't have the last scum.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1260 Post by Foxcastle » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:58 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:18 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:13 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 am


Did you leave any crumbs?
No, I wasn’t sure if that was wise in general or especially in a closed setup and didn’t want to draw attention by asking.
Come on, in a closed setup you have even more incentive to crumb.
I don't know that and I wasn't going to ask. As I thought about it, scum also have even more incentive to create fake crumbs and the fact that we don't see roles as they flip, I'm not even sure what that means for the right strategy for crumbing.

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