MINI MAFIA IV GAME THREAD

[brainbomb]

good try tho ol chap

[worcej]

if you get roleblocked you never visited so he wouldnt have seen it. lmao.

jamie caught

100% how I interpret this game and the mechanics of Mafia. Good try Jaime.

[worcej]

To be clear, and to pull this back out for everyone, on N1 I saw Jamie go to Ike.

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay, you got me. As someone who has GM-ed several times, that is absolutely the correct adjudication - if someone is Roleblocked, they don't "go out" so the Tracker would not see them visit. If I had been Roleblocked I would never have reached RagingIke.

My plan to claim Vigilante was somewhat hamstrung by the end flavour which showed that Ike was stabbed to death. The Vigilante, of course, shoots his target.

I'm scum and I applaud town for catching me.

##VOTE JAMIET99UK
##END

[Jamiet99uk]

I shall be making no further statements so you may as well endhammer on me.

BTW Brainbomb I really have no idea why you felt the need to claim Doctor. You weren't under any pressure.

[brainbomb]

im not the doctor good luck w/ finding him.

[Jamiet99uk]

im not the doctor good luck w/ finding him.

Just your usual fakeclaiming shiz? Okay. Well done catching me anyway.

[brainbomb]

you really did act frantic pqges 6-8 and now I have no idea why. unless xorx is scum?

[brainbomb]

Jamiet99uk
Day-1 07:30
page 13 / orig Current Reads:

SURE-FIRE TOWN: Jamiet99uk

PROBABLY TOWN: Brainbomb

TOWN-LEANS: ThdFrance, Foodcoats, Worcej, Netphys, DrCRG

VILLAGE IDIOT: Bozo

NULL: RagingIke (where is my buddy Isaac?)

SCUM SUSPECTS: Xorxes, Damo666


Comments on my reads:

1. Clearly either RagingIke is scum with Damo and Xorxes and is the deep cover, or I am wrong about one of my town-leans.

2. You may ask why Worcej is only a townlean for me, not a strong town, since I have apparently put a lot of effot into defending him. For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not defending Worcej, I'm saying that the case made against him by Bozo (with some input from Xorxes and Damo666 too) is a steaming pile of crap, because it is. If Worcej is scum, that has little or nothing to do with Bozo's incompetent theories.

[brainbomb]

not xorxes.

its neph and foodcoats.

[yavuzovic]

##CALL GM IF ROLEBLOCKED WOULD A TRACKER STILL SEE YOU VISIT SOMEONE?

GM NOTE:
Since the roleblock happens before the visit, no, Vigilante visit never happens.

[Jamiet99uk]

Yep, fair enough.

I felt if I didn't claim roleblock, I'd be caught by the stabbing flavour. So I was strung either way.

[brainbomb]

lets start rereading for possible connections. dont read jamie imo, read how others talked about and to him.

[yavuzovic]

VOTE COUNT
Jamiet99uk (6): bozotheclown, worcej*, xorxes, brainbomb*, nephthys, jamiet99uk*
xorxes (1): foodcoats


Currently 3 HOURS remained in Day 2.
DrCJG must cast a valid vote.

thdfrance will be replaced at EoD.

[foodcoats]

lets start rereading for possible connections. dont read jamie imo, read how others talked about and to him.

Well caught there. For the record, and especially since worcej read me as scum because of my "defense" of Jaime, I was only saying Jaime should not be the target of this lynch because they'd be easier to lynch in the future; there were already a lot of clues as to Jaime's scumminess. I've amended this post from one I was writing before Jaime spilled all the beans, so if the tense is wrong, that's why.

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I am strongly confident that Jaime and xorxes are two of the scum, but I can't yet see my way to the third. I am even more confident that xorxes is scum after they never replied to my demand for new reads. By post 669 xorxes just left off and never answered my request for them to provide reads; I left for dinner at this time and so I couldn't press the attack, but xorxes got angry at me when I pushed him or her and did more classic xorxes posts: block quotes of someone else, followed by a question, with no truly valuable insight.

When this happens immediately following worcej's tracker claim and Jaime implication I got really interested:

##VOTE Jamiet

##END

In the posts following these (roughly numbers 685-694), xorxes' style is massively different from every other post they have made this game, where usually she or he does a quote and then asks a question. They make several very fast, short posts, almost brainbomb-like, which is markedly different from their usual style. Coupled with their inability to answer my demands, xorxes is obviously scum to me. So, I believe xorxes is bussing Jaime here - at this point the Jaime wagon was already big, and xorxes may have decided it was best to try to appear town if the scum were going to lose Jaime.

This is compounded by the fact that I also believe that Jaime previously bussed xorxes with the damo / xorxes flip and also when Jaime said this (251):

1. Damo was really rather quick to un-vote Xorxes and say he was joking, as soon as Xorxes responded to his vote. Could Damo be rather worried that he had upset his team-mate by making him a potential wagon? If Xorxes flips scum that really rather implicates Damo for me.

This was when xorxes was a possible wagon and I think Jaime was preparing to set-up Damo if we lynched xorxes.

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I have some other ideas that I've excised from this post to see what certain other players say. I'm most interested in who is number 3, given that Jaime's admission of guilt links tightly to the read I already had about the interaction between Jaime and xorxes. The only certain town read for me at the moment is worcej since they've obviously proven it, and although I have a few suspicions I can't tie together the scum agenda between Jaime and xorxes with a third party yet (though I do have a leader).

[foodcoats]

Ack, sorry, screwed up my bold formatting. I only meant to draw attention to Jaime's comment.

[DrCJG]

Sorry I forgot about the game... reading, what’s going on.

[Jamiet99uk]

My name is Jamie. Jamie. The M is before the I. It's not hard.

[Jamiet99uk]

Sorry I forgot about the game... reading, what’s going on.

I got caught by Worcej the tracker and I'm going to be lynched.

Brainbomb claimed Doctor and then retracted his claim.

Nobody can spell my name.

[brainbomb]

Sorry I forgot about the game... reading, what’s going on.

I got caught by Worcej the tracker and I'm going to be lynched.

Brainbomb claimed Doctor and then retracted his claim.

Nobody can spell my name.

I never claimed doctor.