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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:47 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
xorxes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:32 pm
Maybe they vote during the day and the NK processes together with the lynch?
So, just started my reread. I have to point this out. There was confusion on the first page about how the game would work with no night phase. Xorxes was the first to speculate that the NK would process together with the lynch.
I think this was a reasonable guess, and it is what I was thinking would probably happen too. But I think it's significant that Xorxes was the first to put that guess in thread, and it seems like this is exactly correct. I would think that scum knew exactly how these mechanics worked form the start, and they would be hesitant to reveal the correct mechanics, for fear it would give them away.
I betcha Xorxes is town.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:48 pm
by xorxes
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:36 pm
I'm not sure I understand how Xorxes obvtowned?
Join the club.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:51 pm
by xorxes
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:36 pm
Fluminator wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:32 pm
Both Rdrivera and Vecna said they weren't going to be around at deadline.
So lynch decision comes down to xorxes and damian assuming no last minute wagons or switches happen.
Um, what?
You buy into the "Not around at EOD grants immunity" theory?
Balki failing at reading comprehension? Weird.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:53 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
Fluminator wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:04 am
Hi squiggles. I remember everyone and their mother wanted to lynch you and I tried to save you by oracling scum and you still got lynched.
If I'm an oracle this game do you want me to oracle you this time? Do you want to be revealed?
Sorry to state the obvious. I think Fluminator was the Oracle.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:54 pm
by xorxes
Ezio wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:39 pm
I townread flum because he should be townread at the moment.
Explain please!
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:55 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:51 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:36 pm
Um, what?
You buy into the "Not around at EOD grants immunity" theory?
Balki failing at reading comprehension? Weird.
1. I misunderstand people all the time.
2. I think my struggle here was in not really knowing the vote count and who was on what wagon. This was probably before I asked someone to tell me how to work peterbot.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:59 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:54 pm
Ezio wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:39 pm
I townread flum because he should be townread at the moment.
Explain please!
+1
@Ezio, all this pretend confidence and refusal to explain yourself is a bad look, and a conceivable blatant attempt at "too scummy to be scum" cred. And here's the other thing -- if you die, we won't know your role when you flip. So putting stuff like this down can very easily be misinterpreted if you flip town.
This is another reason for a mass reveal. It's really hard for our informational PRs to breadcrumb their results when their roles are not revealed upon death.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:59 pm
by ghug
Was a serious question. I want to know if you know how dumb you are, and whether you're capable of self-reflection.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:00 am
by xorxes
Ezio wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:44 pm
I say it is, and we're listening to me today so you should sheep him and vote Squiggs.
This is so weird, you said this right before I voted for Squigs.
I want to assure everyone that there was no mafia chat where I informed Ezio where I would be voting.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:02 am
by xorxes
xorxes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:00 am
Ezio wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:44 pm
I say it is, and we're listening to me today so you should sheep him and vote Squiggs.
This is so weird, you said this right before I voted for Squigs.
I want to assure everyone that there was no mafia chat where I informed Ezio where I would be voting.
My fail at reading comprehension now.
But he was townreading me as fanatically as Flum.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:03 am
by Vecna
Sorry for being away at EOD there.
Balki is scum here.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:04 am
by ghug
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:59 pm
xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:54 pm
Ezio wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:39 pm
I townread flum because he should be townread at the moment.
Explain please!
+1
@Ezio, all this pretend confidence and refusal to explain yourself is a bad look, and a conceivable blatant attempt at "too scummy to be scum" cred. And here's the other thing -- if you die, we won't know your role when you flip. So putting stuff like this down can very easily be misinterpreted if you flip town.
This is another reason for a mass reveal. It's really hard for our informational PRs to breadcrumb their results when their roles are not revealed upon death.
As conftown, I'm saying no mass reveal until (M|L)YLO. If anyone wants to claim in the mean time, they're certainly welcome to.
I continue to townread Balki for the suggestion.
I continue to townread Ezio. The overconfidence thing is something he's done as town in the past. He was especially stupid at EoD, so I'm less confident than I was before, but he's more likely town than scum. What we do know is that he really wanted Squigs lynched yesterday. If rd is town, that's a big plus for Ezio.
I'm starting to lean more town on xorxes, but I'm not confident.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:07 am
by Vecna
Fluminator wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:58 pm
If I die, I have faith town will deal with ghug
Also yeah, Flum as oracle with the ghug reveal n all
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:11 am
by Balki Bartokomous
Vecna wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:05 am
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:03 am
Hi fine Wakanda folks. I don't think I played a setup like this before, but I played a no-reveal and I think it isn't so different. We need to focus on finding scum and not on mechanics.
I found Ghug starting post even worst then usual, with that "I don't care for setup" feeling.
And Squigs is a lot more agressive on this game.
Which you should well know is a towntell for Ghug
I'm only on page 4 of my re-read, but Vecna is looking towny. See above. I doubt Scum!Vecna douses those flames given that ghug is town.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:16 am
by xorxes
damian wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:16 pm
So. Unless Scum has a false information role. Ghug, Flum and Squig are all town.
Hard to learn anything about Vecna from that EOD I’m still leaning town on him. But I feel more confident that RDR is scum.
So RDR, Fox, Ezio?
It coud be rdr-damian-Ezio, rdr-damian-bozo, or some other combination of those.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:18 am
by Balki Bartokomous
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:45 pm
We have 4 mislynches in the worst case scenario before we lose.
I feel like Foxy is too sure about the setup here in this Day 1, page 4 post, right? I mean, I felt so in the dark Day 1, I did not think to tally up the potential mislynches. This really looks scum indicative to me.
##vote Foxcastle
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:19 am
by xorxes
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:35 pm
damian wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:16 pm
So. Unless Scum has a false information role. Ghug, Flum and Squig are all town.
Hard to learn anything about Vecna from that EOD I’m still leaning town on him. But I feel more confident that RDR is scum.
So RDR, Fox, Ezio?
That would be devastating to town if the scum could reveal a scum as town in a closed setup, I do not think that is a possibility.
Of course it is not a possibility, and I wouldn't be surprized if you both know it.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:30 am
by Balki Bartokomous
damian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:34 pm
I’m really glad peter’s got his bot working for us now.
Looking at posting patterns the first thing to jump out at me was how many posts Xorxes had made, with so few words. Looking through his posts though there’s a bunch of the usually junk joke posting, but we’re he has been scum hunting it’s been pointed and direct. He’s asking solid questions. I’d put him down as town.
Vecna is playing exactly the same way I’ve seen him play before. Which I always seem to misread as scummy. I think he’s probably town as well.
Which leaves the rest of y’all. I don’t think there is anything in either Ghug or Ezio’s play which has been solidly alignment indicative. Ezio’s play always looks bad to me because I don’t get his logic.
Then we have Balki and ND, both have said a fair bit without actually saying much. I think we are starting to see some good questions from ND. Is Balki always this jokey?
Tom started out with a lot about flavour and not a lot about his vote but he’s leveled some pretty pointed questions at Balki and raises a good point about ND answering all the filler questions. So I’m leaving town.
Flum is playing the same way he always seems to play. I don’t trust it, it feels scummy to me to basically try and keep meaningful contributions to 0 early in the game but With Flum it probably isn’t alignment indicative.
Rdrivera has been fairly middle of the road. Not super active but he’s asked some good questions, so probably slightly town.
I don’t know if I’ve played with Foxcastle before but I don’t love what I’ve seen. Lots of idle speculation no scum hunting.
And Bozo is.... well he’s had an interesting start. Likely NAI for the reasons everyone else has already said
This post from Damian on page 7 is aging quite well.
He town reads Xorxes and Vecna, which I am thinking is probably right at this point in time.
He town reads Tom, and notes ND is asking good questions. Obviously both those guys are town.
Throws a bit of suspicion at Balki and Foxy, and I can understand why.
I'm liking Damian a bit more.
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:33 am
by xorxes
I think I will ##VOTE damian
Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:35 am
by xorxes
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:30 am
This post from Damian on page 7 is aging quite well.
He town reads Xorxes and Vecna, which I am thinking is probably right at this point in time.
He town reads Tom, and notes ND is asking good questions. Obviously both those guys are town.
Throws a bit of suspicion at Balki and Foxy, and I can understand why.
I'm liking Damian a bit more.
Cross post. ##VOTE Balki then