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worcej wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:53 pm

Hmmm.... most interesting. I am curious who we should Lump since we'll have no idea if a witch or villager got him, but also the power of Lump is not too terribly impressive either.

I am more inclined to not give it to someone who self-voted, so I am going with ##Lump Vecna - he seems to generally get lucky with scum hunting in Mafia, why wouldn't it work here

yea but what if he's the scum???

Oh shit. ##vote vecna

fuck these mechanics r hard to grasp, hmmmmmmmm

Squigs44 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:41 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:38 pm

Vecna wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:25 pm

soup is instead of a nk though. it might not be a bad idea. Ofcourse it becomes a worse idea since we might need some claiming at the lynch, which results in a double kill...but meh

I think if more than one witch is still alive, one can use the soup, and another can carry out the NK, no?

That was what i thought too.
##CallGM - clarify please

Soup takes place of the Night kill. "At night, instead of making the group Night Kill, a Witch may instead choose to drink Soup."

WarLegend wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:52 pm

Squigs44 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:41 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:38 pm

I think if more than one witch is still alive, one can use the soup, and another can carry out the NK, no?

That was what i thought too.
##CallGM - clarify please

Soup takes place of the Night kill. "At night, instead of making the group Night Kill, a Witch may instead choose to drink Soup."

Okay, I had read it as instead of participating in the group night kill.

That makes soup much less broken.

okay so next end of day phase is this Thursday, 12 pm pst (3 pm est), correct?

Ezio wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:37 pm

The Pie man and Oracle should visit players alphabetically to ensure the oracle gets a proper scan off each night and so the pie man gets NK immunity.

Okay so since there isn't an alphabetical list, maybe they should go off of the list in the first post, the set up post. That would mean they should both visit Yav. And they should keep visiting him every night until he is dead. Then you go to the next alive player on that list, and so on.

The only drawback I can see to this is with the occultist. If the witches know who the Oracle visits, they can deduce who the priest visits, and this helps them find the priest.

I believe everyone has posted except for Bozo

##vote Bozo

For reals though, this game is much quieter without bb and some of the others. Also we have way less people. Maybe I'll have to impersonate bb to stir up some conversation

Squigs44 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:22 am

I believe everyone has posted except for Bozo

##vote Bozo

For reals though, this game is much quieter without bb and some of the others. Also we have way less people. Maybe I'll have to impersonate bb to stir up some conversation

i will impersonate jamie so we can pop off together

Journal Entry 1

I'd like to start by introducing myself. My name is beancomb, and I'm the SK. But I'm also the doctor. And I'm Gamora. I'm also Jamie's internet girlfriend. But yeah, I'm new. So if you could all teach me how to find scum that would be great. Also, I thought about giving my lump vote to Damo since he voted for me and we could be bff's, but then I realized I'm bb and I'm selfish, so I think I'll vote for myself.

Squigs44 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:00 am

Journal Entry 1

I'd like to start by introducing myself. My name is beancomb, and I'm the SK. But I'm also the doctor. And I'm Gamora. I'm also Jamie's internet girlfriend. But yeah, I'm new. So if you could all teach me how to find scum that would be great. Also, I thought about giving my lump vote to Damo since he voted for me and we could be bff's, but then I realized I'm bb and I'm selfish, so I think I'll vote for myself.

Beancomb, what is this about 'Gamora'. are you hinting that you are actually a wolf?

let's just start the game off with voting bean comb ##VOTE Beancomb

something something I do not wish to be a fish sandwich something something BEAN COMB WHY ARENT YOU ANSWERING MY QUESTION something something DOES YOUR PERSONAL HATRED OF ME JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU LYNCH ME? something something

y2kjbk wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:04 pm

I hope I’m better at scum-hunting when it’s not mostly loud VT’s yelling at each other.

So far this game has not looked like loud VTs yelling at each other, but I think that is making things more difficult. I feel like everyone is treading lightly because it's a new setup and people are scared of the mechanics. It's still the same game though. You have to read people, which requires interactions and participation.

@y2k - you never answered my question about why you lumped Ezio (although Ezio answered for you). Also, how do you think the absence of VTs will help you?

worcej wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:53 pm

Hmmm.... most interesting. I am curious who we should Lump since we'll have no idea if a witch or villager got him, but also the power of Lump is not too terribly impressive either.

I am more inclined to not give it to someone who self-voted, so I am going with ##Lump Vecna - he seems to generally get lucky with scum hunting in Mafia, why wouldn't it work here

@worcej - why not give it to someone who self voted? Town players (excluding Acolyte) only know of one alignment - their own. So a selfvote is the most assured vote for success. Of course we can't all self vote though. Do you not trust Ezio for selfvoting? Also, what does this say about Y2k for also voting Ezio?

Ezio wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:03 pm

I don't particularly care about the noflip part of this setup because we have enough ways to figure out if the lynched person was scum, I assume we'll figure it out.
To that end it's better to have the lynch be ours rather than, essentially, a kamikaze vig shot.
It obviously isn't even a question unless Leeroy's the lynch target... RIGHT

We really don't have too many ways of knowing if they are scum, and those that can figure that out don't have a way to share that information.
@Ezio - how do you think we will figure out if the lynched player is scum?

Seems to be a very low post game. Kind of odd.

##VOTE DoubtingThomas for his scummy statement above. Weak.

@squigs 2 people are going to know every day if a scum was lynched:
The oracle because he and the pie-guy are going to visit the same person every night. This triggers both of their abilities so Oracle knows how many witches were alive at the start of each night.

There's also the guy who scans dead roles and he can scan each person we lynch to figure it out.

If we fuck up 2 days in a row then the vig will help us figure it out, but he won't tell us how we did until N2.

@Bo sox I don't think you've ever seen me play an early game where the mechanics are super important.

@vecna
Trading so much uncertainty in the early and midgame just to let one role claim in the lategame is a terrible trade. Much better to have guaranteed information for the oracle, as well as NK immunity for the clown. Other town players also get to use the fact that the oracle is visiting a certain person to inform their decisions.

Also the oracle and clown can figure out the damn alphabetical list.
If they can't, here it is:
bo
Bozo
damo
DoubtingThomas
Ezio
Jamiet99uk
ND
Rdrivera2005
Squigs44
Vecna
Worcej
y2kjbk
yavuzovic

@doubting Thomas
Say something useful rather than making a dumb joke post.

##Call GM
We really need a standard for voting who to lynch and who to give the panda lump to.

IMO it should be ##vote for the lynch ##Lump for the lump target, but there should be a standard.

##vote squigs44

@Ezio: Who define's useful, bro?