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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:40 pm
by Tom Bombadil
I still think Bismarck is scum.
I would like to look further into Bunny - just to double check. Goldie is also flying a little under my radar.
I think Jamie is likely town.
My townreads of HR, emc, therul, bo still stand. I’d put ghug in that group probably as well.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:41 pm
by e.m.c^42
ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:38 pm
The good thing is that if we lose because we miskill emc, it's entirely his fault for being so terrible.
C'mon, now :(
Are you seriously saying, what I'm doing is worse than Tem? Bismarck, therul? I'm sorry if that impression was conveyed, it's just I haven't the time for paragraphs recently.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:45 pm
by ghug
Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:37 pm
I admit, I’m basing nearly my entire townread of emc on one thing, but I really do not see any reason for *scum* emc to jump off of leading wagon town summit to town flash with 18 minutes to go D1. I don’t know why scum would potentially put themselves in a situation to face scrutiny after a town flip when both main wagons were town. Why not just stay on summit?
He had publicly third-party read summit.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:46 pm
by ghug
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:41 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:38 pm
The good thing is that if we lose because we miskill emc, it's entirely his fault for being so terrible.
C'mon, now
Are you seriously saying, what I'm doing is worse than Tem? Bismarck, therul? I'm sorry if that impression was conveyed, it's just I haven't the time for paragraphs recently.
Do you have like any scumreads? Any analysis? Doesn't have to be paragraphs, but you're here for once, displaying that your brain actually functions (which is not necessarily true of everyone being useless), and yet still saying very little of substance.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:48 pm
by Hellenic Riot
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:32 pm
Alright, time to explain townreads in a consolidated post, I suppose, since no one appears to remember them otherwise lol
First off, Foxc. Probably the main reason for mild townread on Foxc is that he didn't policy me, and didn't dive into spreadsheet hell and lurk, as ridiculous as that sounds.
Both of which are easy tendencies for him as scum - and the first actually gains gut townreads from a few iirc - and both of which he hasn't done so this game yet.
He also hasn't been particularly certain with any scumreads (or at least, certain enough to extensively push them), which iirc is also a town trait for him, since he's more certain of his reads as scum and is more aggressive about them.
Townread(s) generally requires more than one person
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:54 pm
by e.m.c^42
If you truly want an attempt of VCA I'll say, circumstances of coincidence was D1, rest was either misguided new or testing town, and probably one point lurky scum of some sort.
There weren't really any "actual scumread" reasons provided for my wagon up until very recently, and that gives off said previous vibes. Say Hamilton's reasoning. Would put that as misguided new logic. Someone like TFB would be just sheepy flow, but that's unfortunately NAI enough given how few people seem to have strong scumreads at that point.
I think Jamie is possibly scum for lacking his usual tendency of question tunneling, and not broadening out. I think gold might've been town testing for something but his misinterpretation on D1 and subsequent info argument I find scummy as he isn't an inexperienced player by any regard and would know better than to genuinely peddle that as town lmao.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:56 pm
by ghug
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:54 pm
If you truly want an attempt of VCA I'll say, circumstances of coincidence was D1, rest was either misguided new or testing town, and probably one point lurky scum of some sort.
There weren't really any "actual scumread" reasons provided for my wagon up until very recently, and that gives off said previous vibes. Say Hamilton's reasoning. Would put that as misguided new logic. Someone like TFB would be just sheepy flow, but that's unfortunately NAI enough given how few people seem to have strong scumreads at that point.
I think Jamie is possibly scum for lacking his usual tendency of question tunneling, and not broadening out. I think gold might've been town testing for something but his misinterpretation on D1 and subsequent info argument I find scummy as he isn't an inexperienced player by any regard and would know better than to genuinely peddle that as town lmao.
Jamie is scum for not tunneling and for not broadening out?
What misinterpretation on D1?
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:56 pm
by Hellenic Riot
Have you just ignored all Jamie's posts from tonight?
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:57 pm
by e.m.c^42
Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:48 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:32 pm
Alright, time to explain townreads in a consolidated post, I suppose, since no one appears to remember them otherwise lol
First off, Foxc. Probably the main reason for mild townread on Foxc is that he didn't policy me, and didn't dive into spreadsheet hell and lurk, as ridiculous as that sounds.
Both of which are easy tendencies for him as scum - and the first actually gains gut townreads from a few iirc - and both of which he hasn't done so this game yet.
He also hasn't been particularly certain with any scumreads (or at least, certain enough to extensively push them), which iirc is also a town trait for him, since he's more certain of his reads as scum and is more aggressive about them.
Townread(s) generally requires more than one person
I got distracted by ghug, will go and finish up lol
Most of the reasons haven't changed though. They've been previously stated, so not sure if it's worth. Foxc had his typed out as it had most unsaid reasons, but the rest not as much.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:00 pm
by e.m.c^42
Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:56 pm
Have you just ignored all Jamie's posts from tonight?
His scumread on you appears to be based off of me. I'm questioning why he hasn't bothered interacting with me more if he does scumread me so much lol
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:01 pm
by Fluminator
Night 5, and all the town members were beginning to wonder, are there any evil agents in the world after all? Where are they? Maybe everyone were just dying natural deaths.
They went to bed holding their breaths.
They all woke up in the morning.
No one died Night 5.
You have 48 hours.
14 players remain.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:01 pm
by ghug
Fun
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:03 pm
by e.m.c^42
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:00 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:56 pm
Have you just ignored all Jamie's posts from tonight?
His scumread on you appears to be based off of me. I'm questioning why he hasn't bothered interacting with me more if he does scumread me so much lol
Granted I may be slightly conflating him and xorxes. One of xorx's scumtells is that he doesn't engage me (or can't mimic his town mindset enough to pick up on what he does as town). When he's town he usually does, as scum he doesn't, no more than just cursory question.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:04 pm
by e.m.c^42
Oh nice.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:06 pm
by ghug
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:03 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:00 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:56 pm
Have you just ignored all Jamie's posts from tonight?
His scumread on you appears to be based off of me. I'm questioning why he hasn't bothered interacting with me more if he does scumread me so much lol
Granted I may be slightly conflating him and xorxes. One of xorx's scumtells is that he doesn't engage me (or can't mimic his town mindset enough to pick up on what he does as town). When he's town he usually does, as scum he doesn't, no more than just cursory question.
That may be as insulting a comparison as me and ND.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:07 pm
by ghug
##VOTE Fox
The only way no kill happens is if they hold it or target the already-redpilled virus, yeah?
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:08 pm
by Tom Bombadil
Yeah, so scum either hit virus (most likely) or think they are so far ahead that they don’t want to risk hitting the virus and just want vote eliminations.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:09 pm
by Hellenic Riot
Well I can guess we can now safely conclude Nanook is the virus that they RB'd yesterday and then hit (and rb'd as well?) tonight, and have to start considering whether he can work with the scum team or not.
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:10 pm
by Nanook
Ok! So couple things
One, scum know bunny is the virus
Two, bunny got shot last night so we kinda have to get him out today
Three I trust bo with my life, interpret that however you wish
Re: Mafia 57 Matrix
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:11 pm
by Nanook
##VOTE Bunny