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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:07 pm
by ghug
##VOTE Bozo

He was Fox's number two scumread days two and three. I was first day two, and then I was cleared, and Balki conveniently leapfrogged him. That's textbook bussing without killing your teammate.

Scum intent was also clearly not to back Fox up yesterday (nobody bought the claim or even really tried to defend him), which leads me towards the bus scan to provide distance theory.

Still working on the third.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:31 pm
by ghug
What do y'all make of Fox pointing out at the start that bozo and rd were successful as scum recently but not mentioning me (their teammate)?

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:25 pm
by ghug
Xorxes brazenly townread both Fox and bozo day two, very close together. He's also seemed cheery and easygoing all game.

His attitude when Fox claimed still strikes me as super sketch.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:28 pm
by ghug
Xorxes, do you think Ezio would actually not kill you as scum?

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:38 pm
by ghug
Ugh, Ezio can you contribute please? My gut says town but I'm not going to risk you doing this disappearing shit to me twice, and they're probably all gonna lynch you tomorrow anyway.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:38 pm
by ghug
Somebody talk to me I'm lonely

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:04 am
by bozotheclown
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:38 pm
Somebody talk to me I'm lonely
Do you think you and the other 3 confirmed town were wrong about rdrivera D2?

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:06 am
by bozotheclown
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:31 pm
What do y'all make of Fox pointing out at the start that bozo and rd were successful as scum recently but not mentioning me (their teammate)?
Maybe he thought you were pulling us down that game.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:09 am
by bozotheclown
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:07 pm
##VOTE Bozo

He was Fox's number two scumread days two and three. I was first day two, and then I was cleared, and Balki conveniently leapfrogged him. That's textbook bussing without killing your teammate.

Scum intent was also clearly not to back Fox up yesterday (nobody bought the claim or even really tried to defend him), which leads me towards the bus scan to provide distance theory.

Still working on the third.
That is only because Balki voted for him at the beginning of D3 and kept pushing him. Balki was right about Foxcastle, why don't you think he was right about rdrivera?

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:11 am
by rdrivera2005
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:05 pm
@rdrivera: On D3, Ezio was voting for me most of the day, then voted for Foxcastle. Foxcastle maintained that I was his second scum read after Balki long before he claimed to cop scan me. Do you think both scum were bussing me, and Ezio was still willing to bus Foxcastle when the vote came down to Balki vs. Foxcastle?
I think Fox didn't buss you, he voted Balki and push a huge case on him even scumreading you more on D2.
About Ezio he is completely capable of busing all team if he think it's a good move, he counterclaimed me once when we are both scum....

I am still working on D3, but won't finish tonight.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:14 am
by rdrivera2005
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:09 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:07 pm
##VOTE Bozo

He was Fox's number two scumread days two and three. I was first day two, and then I was cleared, and Balki conveniently leapfrogged him. That's textbook bussing without killing your teammate.

Scum intent was also clearly not to back Fox up yesterday (nobody bought the claim or even really tried to defend him), which leads me towards the bus scan to provide distance theory.

Still working on the third.
That is only because Balki voted for him at the beginning of D3 and kept pushing him. Balki was right about Foxcastle, why don't you think he was right about rdrivera?
Don't twist things. Balki scumread you more then me at start of D3:
Balki Bartokomous
Day-3 46:23
page 44 / orig
↑Foxcastle: "I skimmed damian's play from M33 where he was town. I was also in that game but didn't remember him much. But his style ..."
Look at Foxcastle do backflips to suggest that Ezio and Bozo are not scum together.

And look at him fling low-key shade at Damian and Squigs.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:15 am
by rdrivera2005
Another interesting thing you just started to push me after I voted you, before you were just sure about Ezio.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:16 am
by bozotheclown
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:11 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:05 pm
@rdrivera: On D3, Ezio was voting for me most of the day, then voted for Foxcastle. Foxcastle maintained that I was his second scum read after Balki long before he claimed to cop scan me. Do you think both scum were bussing me, and Ezio was still willing to bus Foxcastle when the vote came down to Balki vs. Foxcastle?
I think Fox didn't buss you, he voted Balki and push a huge case on him even scumreading you more on D2.
About Ezio he is completely capable of busing all team if he think it's a good move, he counterclaimed me once when we are both scum....

I am still working on D3, but won't finish tonight.
There is no way Ezio would think bussing me there would make either of look more like town.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:18 am
by bozotheclown
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:14 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:09 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:07 pm
##VOTE Bozo

He was Fox's number two scumread days two and three. I was first day two, and then I was cleared, and Balki conveniently leapfrogged him. That's textbook bussing without killing your teammate.

Scum intent was also clearly not to back Fox up yesterday (nobody bought the claim or even really tried to defend him), which leads me towards the bus scan to provide distance theory.

Still working on the third.
That is only because Balki voted for him at the beginning of D3 and kept pushing him. Balki was right about Foxcastle, why don't you think he was right about rdrivera?
Don't twist things. Balki scumread you more then me at start of D3:
Balki Bartokomous
Day-3 46:23
page 44 / orig
↑Foxcastle: "I skimmed damian's play from M33 where he was town. I was also in that game but didn't remember him much. But his style ..."
Look at Foxcastle do backflips to suggest that Ezio and Bozo are not scum together.

And look at him fling low-key shade at Damian and Squigs.
I was talking about Balki's scum read of you D2.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:20 am
by bozotheclown
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:15 am
Another interesting thing you just started to push me after I voted you, before you were just sure about Ezio.
Your willingness to lynch me before Ezio is enough to suspect you more than xorxes, since lynching me ends the game, and I can't see how you would not be more sure about Ezio if you are town.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:43 am
by xorxes
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:28 pm
Xorxes, do you think Ezio would actually not kill you as scum?
I've been thinking about that. Maybe he was overruled, maybe he's trying a new approach, maybe he wants you to ask exactly that, I don't know.

There's zero doubt that he is scum though, isn't there? Irrespective of whether you think I'm scum or not?

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:44 am
by xorxes
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:38 pm
Ugh, Ezio can you contribute please? My gut says town but I'm not going to risk you doing this disappearing shit to me twice, and they're probably all gonna lynch you tomorrow anyway.
Your gut says town? Is this a reaction test or something? What exactly was he doing if he's town?

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:12 am
by ghug
xorxes wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:44 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:38 pm
Ugh, Ezio can you contribute please? My gut says town but I'm not going to risk you doing this disappearing shit to me twice, and they're probably all gonna lynch you tomorrow anyway.
Your gut says town? Is this a reaction test or something? What exactly was he doing if he's town?
You bought that Fox was too shitty looking to be scum. Why not Ezio? His play this game seems defined by shit whose only possible motivations are town being honest and scum wanting to make me specifically townread him, which seems questionable given that I'm only one person and I already largely townread him.

I've been scum with Ezio twice, and his hard on for fearkilling you puts mine to shame. Maybe he's changed, but if you're town it's definitely a point in his favor that you're alive and well.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:41 am
by xorxes
ghug wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:12 am

You bought that Fox was too shitty looking to be scum. Why not Ezio?
I bought Ezio for a long while too. I'm overindulgent with clueless players and idiotic play.
His play this game seems defined by shit whose only possible motivations are town being honest and scum wanting to make me specifically townread him, which seems questionable given that I'm only one person and I already largely townread him.
You're a powerful force when you're town though, having you on his side is definitely something he'd want if that's what he was doing.
I've been scum with Ezio twice, and his hard on for fearkilling you puts mine to shame. Maybe he's changed, but if you're town it's definitely a point in his favor that you're alive and well.
Not sure what you mean by that. He started scumreading me for not solving the game really early, then he suddenly townreads me for an absurd reason, then he spends a whole day saying he's worried that I'm wrong about Balki and if I'm wrong about Balki then that's proof that I'm scum, but he's sure I'm town because I said "town points". Then he disappears when we catch Fox and we practically haven't heard from him since. I have no idea how you can still think he's town.

Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:53 am
by xorxes
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:49 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:47 pm
ND has so far thrown a bunch of shade, and voted Squiggs when his wagon was getting pretty big. The closer to deadline it's getting and the more likely squiggs will get lynched, the more confident he seems to be getting on his vote.

This seems like lazy scum to me.
I did not agree with Fluminator on ND, and his push for the ND wagon could have been to prevent a Squigs lynch if Squigs is scum. Since Squigs apparently is safe today for talking to a dead Tom:

##VOTE Fluminator

Before anyone brings it up, I know I am voting with ghug again and that ghug is currently the top wagon.
This is so weird. Why would anyone care that you were voting with ghug again or that he was the top wagon?