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Nephthys wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:56 pm

I would like to mass claim but I would like to run it as I have an idea that will either conf scum or conf SK but I am unable to state for obviously that would undermine the entire thing

I do not know if we should claim right now given the new information that the scum know roles to claim that are not assigned to town.

CrimsonFox wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:12 am

am still other mason

and might i add that the claimed doc foxcastle is still alive

As that is one of our town clearing roles, I think it would have been better to keep that hidden for now.

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:17 am

Nephthys wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:56 pm

I would like to mass claim but I would like to run it as I have an idea that will either conf scum or conf SK but I am unable to state for obviously that would undermine the entire thing

I do not know if we should claim right now given the new information that the scum know roles to claim that are not assigned to town.

I am asking for some faith, that is all. Also we till are able to rule out 7 roles that are conf not in the game. That means a minimum of 3 PR.

I will admit there is a slight chance this doesn't work but I think the possible gain is too high to neglect

We're in such shit at the moment that I'm willing to give it a try.

Nephthys wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:20 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:17 am

Nephthys wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:56 pm

I would like to mass claim but I would like to run it as I have an idea that will either conf scum or conf SK but I am unable to state for obviously that would undermine the entire thing

I do not know if we should claim right now given the new information that the scum know roles to claim that are not assigned to town.

I am asking for some faith, that is all. Also we till are able to rule out 7 roles that are conf not in the game. That means a minimum of 3 PR.

I will admit there is a slight chance this doesn't work but I think the possible gain is too high to neglect

I have to look at this, but my feeling is that England should stay hidden as long as possible, since it is a town clearing role.

Nephthys wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:20 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:17 am

Nephthys wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:56 pm

I would like to mass claim but I would like to run it as I have an idea that will either conf scum or conf SK but I am unable to state for obviously that would undermine the entire thing

I do not know if we should claim right now given the new information that the scum know roles to claim that are not assigned to town.

I am asking for some faith, that is all. Also we till are able to rule out 7 roles that are conf not in the game. That means a minimum of 3 PR.

I will admit there is a slight chance this doesn't work but I think the possible gain is too high to neglect

I see the potential to catch the SK, but the scum have roles they can claim, or they can claim their own roles if their roles are NAI. America can just claim one of the fake roles on their list.

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:23 am

Nephthys wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:20 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:17 am

I do not know if we should claim right now given the new information that the scum know roles to claim that are not assigned to town.

I am asking for some faith, that is all. Also we till are able to rule out 7 roles that are conf not in the game. That means a minimum of 3 PR.

I will admit there is a slight chance this doesn't work but I think the possible gain is too high to neglect

I have to look at this, but my feeling is that England should stay hidden as long as possible, since it is a town clearing role.

Considering we already have an outed TC and a doctor (Fox) we can protect England for this turn which gives us some additional roles and we also get to test the Fox claim.

I see this as more reason to roll with my idea.

Please add your name to this list if you are happy to go along with my plan
Nephthys
Darg
Jamie
CrimsonFox

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:26 am

Nephthys wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:20 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:17 am

I do not know if we should claim right now given the new information that the scum know roles to claim that are not assigned to town.

I am asking for some faith, that is all. Also we till are able to rule out 7 roles that are conf not in the game. That means a minimum of 3 PR.

I will admit there is a slight chance this doesn't work but I think the possible gain is too high to neglect

I see the potential to catch the SK, but the scum have roles they can claim, or they can claim their own roles if their roles are NAI. America can just claim one of the fake roles on their list.

For fuck sake, trust me.

I will send brain a PM to add to the God thread with my plan laid out in full so I can be criticized as much as you want after the game.

As for today's lynch, on the off chance that Fox is telling the truth

##vote Bozo

##Vote bozo this satisfies me

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##CALL GM

I have an unanswered GM question, thanks.

Also ##Vote Foxcastle

@Crimson:

If you are truly the surviving Mason, tell us what you and Ghug discussed in your QT.

##CALL GM

Do Masons have any abilities other than their QT?

I recall a previous game where the Masons could recruit others.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:27 am

##CALL GM

Do Masons have any abilities other than their QT?

I recall a previous game where the Masons could recruit others.

Nope.
and wrt to your previous GM call, no, I wont be publishing fake claim roles that are known to scum. all roles that could be claimed are in the doc. there are no hidden roles, there are no hidden mechanics, there is no secret conspiracies.

its just a mafia game.

Ill reread to see if any other GM calls were missed but assume any question you have about the setup is that it was random. roles werent handpicked, and the fake claim roles were rng also and may or may not even be feasible for scum to claim.

Also do not try to game the GM, play the actual game. I do apologize some information wasnt made fully transparent in the opening. I apologize about some typos. and I apologize if anyone feels the game is unbalanced. I can assure you that in a game where human error is possible, all setups whether role madness or mountainous can be imbalanced.

thank you all and please continue to play. there should be no further mysteries or unknowns.

and before you ask, yes the sk also has a fake claimable role too.

##Call GM again (sorry)

Thank you Brianbomb.

But I am confused. We all have access to the list of roles. The Google docs link is available to everyone. Why can't scum just fakeclaim by picking roles from there? What is this extra fakeclaim document you have given them? I don't understand it's purpose.

##Vote Foxcastle

actually competing wagons I want to see where this goes

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:55 am

##Call GM again (sorry)

Thank you Brianbomb.

But I am confused. We all have access to the list of roles. The Google docs link is available to everyone. Why can't scum just fakeclaim by picking roles from there? What is this extra fakeclaim document you have given them? I don't understand it's purpose.

This gets more into setup crafting and these are topics which I dont think are necessary to divulge at present. I felt it was a good idea.



questions about the reasoning behind these decision id be happy to talk about post game. :)

also Jamie it becomes a crapshoot with flavor, fake claims are usually tied with flavor since there's not really a way for Mafia to fake claim that a lot of the time

this game just also happens to be an open game

LordQuas wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:06 am

also Jamie it becomes a crapshoot with flavor, fake claims are usually tied with flavor since there's not really a way for Mafia to fake claim that a lot of the time

this game just also happens to be an open game

I cut off the ending of my own post which was let's leave this till post game tho