M1009 [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

At least one of those has to be a town PR, so apparently it is not the case that the scum were always on different wagons.

food and rivera have not said they are VT yet, have they?

Emc said something remotely intelligible about being VT?

If he did I missed it, he seemed to be avoiding the question.

[xorxes]

This is the tense calm before the storm of D2 that ended up with worcej lynched, which is also interesting to look at:

Tom (4) xorxes rdrivera emc goldfinger
bozo (3) foodcoats worcej Jamiet
worcej (3) Tom Kakarroto bozo
non-vote Flav

[Foxcastle]

##CALL GM

Can you verify that EMC is not participating in some kind of "hydra" where he is under the control of multiple users? No such arrangement was suggested for this game.

Obviously not. Please don't make GM calls for frivolous suppositions about whether I've lied about the setup.

[xorxes]

food and rivera have not said they are VT yet, have they?

Emc said something remotely intelligible about being VT?

If he did I missed it, he seemed to be avoiding the question.

"fajita vegetable mix"

I looked at his first flavor post where the key supposedly was, but I could not decipher it.

[goldfinger0303]

Hi everyone. Checking in *briefly* because I have a work dinner to go to in 10 minutes. Kinda was hoping I'd be the NK target because of this trip, but very pleasantly surprised to see that rdrivera was saved.

I'm gonna mull on the calls for PR reveals during dinner and give my opinion when I'm back. I'm leaning towards a yes, as that gives us the mathematically best chance of a successful lynch today.

[xorxes]

At least one of those has to be a town PR, so apparently it is not the case that the scum were always on different wagons.

food and rivera have not said they are VT yet, have they?

Right, I was thinking emc-food-gold.

food-gold(Chaqa) ended together on D1.

[bozotheclown]

Hi everyone. Checking in *briefly* because I have a work dinner to go to in 10 minutes. Kinda was hoping I'd be the NK target because of this trip, but very pleasantly surprised to see that rdrivera was saved.

I'm gonna mull on the calls for PR reveals during dinner and give my opinion when I'm back. I'm leaning towards a yes, as that gives us the mathematically best chance of a successful lynch today.

I think it is too late to consider not claiming, it would only keep information away from town that the mafia can likely already figure out.

[xorxes]

Hi everyone. Checking in *briefly* because I have a work dinner to go to in 10 minutes. Kinda was hoping I'd be the NK target because of this trip, but very pleasantly surprised to see that rdrivera was saved.

I'm gonna mull on the calls for PR reveals during dinner and give my opinion when I'm back. I'm leaning towards a yes, as that gives us the mathematically best chance of a successful lynch today.

I think it is too late to consider not claiming, it would only keep information away from town that the mafia can likely already figure out.

If we are going to lynch emc today (I think it's what makes most sense), it is probably unnecessary that food/goldie/rivera claim. In case both food and goldie are both town, it is better that Mafia don't know who is the doctor and who is the cop.

So change of plans: food and goldie do not claim if you are both PRs, do not claim your specific role in any case for now. If one of you is VT, then I think you do need to claim.

@bozo, @rivera, what do you think?

[rdrivera2005]

Hi everyone. Checking in *briefly* because I have a work dinner to go to in 10 minutes. Kinda was hoping I'd be the NK target because of this trip, but very pleasantly surprised to see that rdrivera was saved.

I'm gonna mull on the calls for PR reveals during dinner and give my opinion when I'm back. I'm leaning towards a yes, as that gives us the mathematically best chance of a successful lynch today.

I think it is too late to consider not claiming, it would only keep information away from town that the mafia can likely already figure out.

If we are going to lynch emc today (I think it's what makes most sense), it is probably unnecessary that food/goldie/rivera claim. In case both food and goldie are both town, it is better that Mafia don't know who is the doctor and who is the cop.

So change of plans: food and goldie do not claim if you are both PRs, do not claim your specific role in any case for now. If one of you is VT, then I think you do need to claim.

@bozo, @rivera, what do you think?

I wish so much I could be certain you are town Xorxes.
But if you are scum we have already lost I think.

[rdrivera2005]

@Xorxes- Why are you so sure emc is scum?

[xorxes]

I think it is too late to consider not claiming, it would only keep information away from town that the mafia can likely already figure out.

If we are going to lynch emc today (I think it's what makes most sense), it is probably unnecessary that food/goldie/rivera claim. In case both food and goldie are both town, it is better that Mafia don't know who is the doctor and who is the cop.

So change of plans: food and goldie do not claim if you are both PRs, do not claim your specific role in any case for now. If one of you is VT, then I think you do need to claim.

@bozo, @rivera, what do you think?

I wish so much I could be certain you are town Xorxes.
But if you are scum we have already lost I think.

I'm not all that sure, unfortunately. And since you are not confirming you are VT, it means you are most likely PR, which makes me even less sure.

His sudden interest in the game after ignoring it for three days is telling though. One of Jamie/brain is surely bussing him, possibly both.

Anyway, I have to go now, and I won't be able to post much if at all tomorrow until close to EOD. Will try to check from phone.

[bozotheclown]

Hi everyone. Checking in *briefly* because I have a work dinner to go to in 10 minutes. Kinda was hoping I'd be the NK target because of this trip, but very pleasantly surprised to see that rdrivera was saved.

I'm gonna mull on the calls for PR reveals during dinner and give my opinion when I'm back. I'm leaning towards a yes, as that gives us the mathematically best chance of a successful lynch today.

I think it is too late to consider not claiming, it would only keep information away from town that the mafia can likely already figure out.

If we are going to lynch emc today (I think it's what makes most sense), it is probably unnecessary that food/goldie/rivera claim. In case both food and goldie are both town, it is better that Mafia don't know who is the doctor and who is the cop.

So change of plans: food and goldie do not claim if you are both PRs, do not claim your specific role in any case for now. If one of you is VT, then I think you do need to claim.

@bozo, @rivera, what do you think?

We have to lynch correctly today since the mafia know they can NK rdrivera, so I think the cop and doctor should claim as soon as possible to force any counter claims. We don't want to end up with emc claiming PR at EOD and not be able to verify it because someone is not online. Also, the cop scan result may help us make sure we get the lynch right today.

[bozotheclown]

If we are going to lynch emc today (I think it's what makes most sense), it is probably unnecessary that food/goldie/rivera claim. In case both food and goldie are both town, it is better that Mafia don't know who is the doctor and who is the cop.

So change of plans: food and goldie do not claim if you are both PRs, do not claim your specific role in any case for now. If one of you is VT, then I think you do need to claim.

@bozo, @rivera, what do you think?

I wish so much I could be certain you are town Xorxes.
But if you are scum we have already lost I think.

I'm not all that sure, unfortunately. And since you are not confirming you are VT, it means you are most likely PR, which makes me even less sure.

His sudden interest in the game after ignoring it for three days is telling though. One of Jamie/brain is surely bussing him, possibly both.

Anyway, I have to go now, and I won't be able to post much if at all tomorrow until close to EOD. Will try to check from phone.

rdrivera should claim last regardless of his role, so the mafia have to worry about counterclaiming him.

[bozotheclown]

@Xorxes- Why are you so sure emc is scum?

I have some questions about emc's RB claim that I think will get answered when everyone claims their role.

[bozotheclown]

@emc, are you going to claim your role?

a sad fajita vegetable mix I am

I do not know what this means, but avoiding claiming your role looks suspicious. You need to claim your role as soon as possible if you want to avoid getting lynched.

[e.m.c^42]

@emc, are you going to claim your role?

a sad fajita vegetable mix I am

I do not know what this means, but avoiding claiming your role looks suspicious. You need to claim your role as soon as possible if you want to avoid getting lynched.

Someone's got it already, but I'll claim outright once rest claim, mh?

[bozotheclown]

a sad fajita vegetable mix I am

I do not know what this means, but avoiding claiming your role looks suspicious. You need to claim your role as soon as possible if you want to avoid getting lynched.

Someone's got it already, but I'll claim outright once rest claim, mh?

You would look better if you outright claimed your role before the others.

[bozotheclown]

a sad fajita vegetable mix I am

I do not know what this means, but avoiding claiming your role looks suspicious. You need to claim your role as soon as possible if you want to avoid getting lynched.

Someone's got it already, but I'll claim outright once rest claim, mh?

Are you talking about this:

At least one of those has to be a town PR, so apparently it is not the case that the scum were always on different wagons.

food and rivera have not said they are VT yet, have they?

Emc said something remotely intelligible about being VT?

[e.m.c^42]

I do not know what this means, but avoiding claiming your role looks suspicious. You need to claim your role as soon as possible if you want to avoid getting lynched.

Someone's got it already, but I'll claim outright once rest claim, mh?

You would look better if you outright claimed your role before the others.

I would. But I'm also waiting to see something that I want to verify/double check before doing so :D

[bozotheclown]

Someone's got it already, but I'll claim outright once rest claim, mh?

You would look better if you outright claimed your role before the others.

I would. But I'm also waiting to see something that I want to verify/double check before doing so :D

Waiting makes it look like you are seeing who claims the town PRs before you decide if you should counterclaim them.