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Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#1 Post by Matticus13 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:12 am

Dippers:

What is the best piece of advice you have for novice players look to make that *leap* into take their game to the next level?

An example might be: "Trust what the board is telling you, Grasshoppa. Good Diplomacy players can talk a lady in white gloves into buying a ketchup flavored popsicle." - Matticus13

What says you?
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#2 Post by President Eden » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:04 am

People lie; pieces don't.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#3 Post by Matticus13 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:19 am

Matticus13 wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:12 am
Dippers:

What is the best piece of advice you have for novice players looking to take their game to the next level?

An example might be: "Trust what the board is telling you, Grasshoppa. Good Diplomacy players can talk a lady in white gloves into buying a ketchup flavored popsicle." - Matticus13

What says you?
Corrected version. Apologies for my intoxicated English and any other mistakes due to a lack of sobriety.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#4 Post by President Eden » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:21 am

You made this thread just to show off your goofy turn of phrase, didn't you.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#5 Post by Matticus13 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:38 am

President Eden wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:21 am
You made this thread just to show off your goofy turn of phrase, didn't you.
Caught me red-handed.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#6 Post by hthefourth » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:31 am

Don't be a jackass.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#7 Post by Dejan0707 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:07 am

March in spring, attack in fall.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#8 Post by teccles » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:28 am

Always put yourself in your rival's shoes. What are their goals? What do they believe? What do you want them to believe? If you understand them, you have a chance to predict them and persuade them.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#9 Post by jasnah » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:07 am

Amateurs see dots, pros see lines
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#10 Post by gimix » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:58 am

if you've been stabbed, it's usually your fault, not the stabber's
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#11 Post by Octavious » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:19 am

Everybody lies. The difference between the honest and dishonest sounding player is that the honest one is better at it.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#12 Post by cdngooner » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:15 pm

1. Good players don't lie as much as this game has a reputation for. You must earn a reputation as someone who tells the truth 90% of the time, so you will be believed the other 10%.

2. Offer help at least as often as you ask for it.

3. Guess other's next moves by what their interests are, not what they are saying (because most players ignore Rule #1).
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#13 Post by Szpoti » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:25 pm

If the other players offer you something, try to figure out how they can benefit from that.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#14 Post by David E. Cohen » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:44 pm

Play as hard as you can, as often as you can, against the very best opposition you can find.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#15 Post by Octavious » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:54 pm

If you're my ally and fighting for your life I will definitely come to your aid. There's really no need to keep reminding me every couple of phases :evil:
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#16 Post by BobMcBob » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:29 am

Never take full initiative on anything. Let other players hand some things to you on platters. It allows you to keep your intentions partially veiled and makes your opponents feel more willing and free and generous in doing something that was already necessary.

Trust me on this, I am a definitely very skilful diplomat and am not bad at this game at all.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#17 Post by BobMcBob » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:45 am

Also don't be afraid to be assertive when necessary. If your ally has a poorly thought out plan, or one that seems like it could leave you open to some sinister intentions, don't just go along with it. Openly reject the plan, although preferably not so openly that you post in in the global chat :razz:
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#18 Post by Octavious » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:22 am

Important one for live games when being caught short can be the difference between a solo or a draw:

Have a slash before the clash
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#19 Post by Claesar » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:30 am

Lastly, never take advice from a forum thread.
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Re: Best Piece of Diplomacy Advice

#20 Post by Octavious » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:32 am

Continuing the theme that humans are naturally inclined to perceive advice as profound wisdom and fundamentally trustworthy if it happens to rhyme...

When there's doubt, the knives come out
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