Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

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Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by badivan1 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:50 pm

I think Germany can actually win as early as 2005. Germany just need to take England earlier than usual.

Also, there is an opening variation where Germany sends his first year army builds to the Balkans with virtually no risk. While I don't have a lot of games with that move order, I think Germany should be favoured.

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by CptMike » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:31 pm

captainmeme wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:56 pm
My concern with GvI has alw...
Ooopss... Hello... Somebody talked about GvI ? :-D
... that it's quite Germany-sided,
Well... I have just been crushed by a "newbee in GvI" (but a player with a lot of talent) while I was playing Germany. Maybe I was too confident but he surprised me with a move that I didn't expect and it was too late. It was not really luck. He surprised me and fully deserves his victory.

It is clear that it is different from FvA. FvA is more mathematical in thinking about all possibilities and managing the control of the key territories in optimizing ressources. GvI has a big battlefield in the Balkans with numerous flip coins but the challenge is more a movement games in the other places. Italy can decide to push all its ressources towards England and Germany can hardly prevent this. Globally Germany remains favored BUT if Germany decides not taking risks, it should lose. An interesting point is that there is not real equivalent to the Austrian rush strategy for Germany in GvI.
...
There is nevertheless a problem in GvI that I discussed here : GvI balance.
...so a lot of the matchups might just be determined by who rolls Germany in the tiebreaker. But, I'm very inexperienced in GvI in general so I'm not sure how true that is.
Some options were discussed regarding this. We can add G and I territories from both games to decide who wins in case of 1-1, or check who won the fastest globally.

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by BunnyGo » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:31 pm

captainmeme wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:56 pm
My concern with GvI has always been that it's quite Germany-sided, so a lot of the matchups might just be determined by who rolls Germany in the tiebreaker. But, I'm very inexperienced in GvI in general so I'm not sure how true that is.
Maybe a matchup is 2 simultaneous games? Each player takes G in one game?

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by captainmeme » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:56 pm

My concern with GvI has always been that it's quite Germany-sided, so a lot of the matchups might just be determined by who rolls Germany in the tiebreaker. But, I'm very inexperienced in GvI in general so I'm not sure how true that is.

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by RoganJosh » Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:37 am

captainmeme wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:58 am
I'm planning to run the Fall Champion's League this year as well (probably in about a month), so keep an eye out for that if you're interested!
I know that IvG is not as fun as FvA, but maybe do IvG in the fall and FvA in the spring? Or alternating years...

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by svkrIs » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:35 pm

Thanks y'all, and thanks meme for organizing this fun tournament!

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by MadMarx » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:58 am

Congrats svkrIs, very well played, and of course thanks to meme making this possible and doing a great job running the tournament!

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by CptMike » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:34 pm

Congratulations to the all the players and the winner!
That was a great year with very smart games!

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by RoganJosh » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:30 pm

Congratulations to svkrIs! He was the better player in the final.

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by captainmeme » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:58 am

The tournament is over! SvkrIs successfully defeats reigning champion RoganJosh 2-0 to take the title, and wins 1000 webDip points in the process.

You can find the finals games here:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=312724
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=312725

And the final tournament results either on the webDip Tournaments Page, or on the Challonge page:
http://webdiplomacy.net/tournaments.php?tab=Finished
https://webdiplomacy.challonge.com/Spring2020CL

Congrats svkrIs! And thank you to everyone who participated - it was great to see so many high quality games and to see the tournament scene for FvA being brought back :D I'm planning to run the Fall Champion's League this year as well (probably in about a month), so keep an eye out for that if you're interested!

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by RoganJosh » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:52 am

captainmeme wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:05 pm
If it is another 3 or 4 way tie, advancements will be decided by coin flip
For future iteration of this (and other) tournaments, we should not use coin flips, but we should use one round of odd vs. even: TD decides that player A wins if odd and player B wins if even. After that, both players submit either the number 0 or the number 1 in a PM to the TD. The total sum of the submitted numbers decides the winner.

This is more in spirit with the game...

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by captainmeme » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:26 pm

Challonge is updated and PMs for the next round have been sent out!

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by svkrIs » Sun May 31, 2020 6:02 am

RoganJosh wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 7:28 am
I hope everyone noticed this game. Just look at the map, and then look at who won.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=293395

Also nice that first tiebreaker is to play two more games. Much better than a one-game tiebreaker.
Well, I made a pretty critical mistake by convoy spa-tun 03s in that game, too bad to rescue...

By the way, when will the round 3 begin, captain? @captainmeme

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by RoganJosh » Wed May 13, 2020 7:28 am

I hope everyone noticed this game. Just look at the map, and then look at who won.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=293395

Also nice that first tiebreaker is to play two more games. Much better than a one-game tiebreaker.

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by RoganJosh » Tue May 05, 2020 7:09 am

it's a rematch!

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by badivan1 » Sun May 03, 2020 1:03 pm

first matchup against the defending champ >.>

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by captainmeme » Sun May 03, 2020 11:23 am

The Challonge has been fully fixed, and the next matchups determined! Things to note:

Foxcastle has won the Group B tiebreaker by dint of a tie being awarded to France, which I have not represented on the Challonge in terms of points but is represented by Foxcastle progressing to the next round.

Mhsmith won the coin toss for advancing as first seed from Group G.

PMs will be going out later today!

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by MadMarx » Sat May 02, 2020 4:44 pm

It’s pretty cool to have the first round in the books before the end of April, historically Spring signups start in May so we’re well ahead of schedule! 😁

Thinking about the recent Earth Day banner on webDip, I like the idea of starting TCL Spring and Fall tournaments on the equinoxes, which would give us the best chance to crown a champ during each respective season, or at least start signups on the equinoxes...

Thanks to Meme for bringing this excellent tourney back to life, it’s a lot of work and your efforts are much appreciated!

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by CCR » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:49 pm

It makes no difference, Meme, since only 2 games ended in draw and these don't affect the standings inside each group.

Re: Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

by captainmeme » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:06 am

All games have indeed concluded! I'm updating the challonge bracket now but it might take a little while, I need to re-enter most of the earlier matches since I changed the way the scoring works in the settings.

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