Finished: 05 AM Thu 11 Oct 12 UTC
Massive Spliff
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 105 D - Spring, 1909, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: and don't give up dude. it only needs maximum 3-4 turns till they make the wrong combination of moves. then their breakdown begins. try to change your attacks between ven and nap and of course use tun-ion to cut support from time to time.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Germany, the last line of your msg is a testimony to how much of an idiot you are.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Your ally wants a draw, so do the other players on the board - at this point you are the only one holding off. I'm going to hold off on hitting ready until you two have a conversation about whether to draw or not and reach the same opinion.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: What conversation? I don't want a draw and that's the end of every discussion. So fuck off and die you stupid bitch.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Unless you start licking my balls your chances of me pressing draw (if there were any) drop to 0,00%
Blame your stupidity and complete lack of diplomatic skills for that stupid adolescent :P
Now, start typing all the bullshit you want. I'm connecting you to my balls.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: whever you reach a true stalemate line you call a mod to give you the draw whore!
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Conversation with your own ally, who wants a draw.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Please converse in a civilized manner. We do not have to tolerate your verbal abuses.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: yeah, wow, germany - there is a difference between aggressive/"chainsaw" diplomacy and the verbal abuse you're sending. Remember, we're all people here trying to play a game.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: @France: sorry for slowing the game. I just wanted to give you a chance to talk to your ally.. although it looks like he does not give much mind to your opinion. I will continue pressing ready as soon as you make up your mind - it's contradictory to want a draw whilst allying with the only player that is against it.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: If you don't like my manners then let down your defences lose the game and play with someone else. Till then shut the fuck up bitches. No draw is happening unless France asks directly for this in the global chat. Not that you deserve it since you have a shit for a stalemate but I guess he might be bored of your stupidity.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: France if you want to continue (3-4 turns is what I ask to prove their stupidity) remember mun s tyr and tyr s boh-vie.
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: haha, you're new strategy is to badmouth your way to victory?
06 Oct 12 UTC Spring, 1908: -your
06 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: @Tur: good job on Boh, nothing to panic about with Ven. - but ION becomes vital this turn. worst case we have traded one of my SCs for a much better standing in Boh-Tyr.
07 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: France, I understand that you moved to bur in fear of me stabbing you but pls move it back.
also try to keep ven while messing with their minds abour nap and/or ion.
07 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm using Bur to help support hold Munich. I wouldn't dare of stabbing you at this point. With my army moved out of Tyr and turkey gaining bohemia you will need the extra support I imagine. I also cancelled my draw so that we make focus our efforts on eliminating these two bastards.
07 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: except you chose to move to bur before you realized Tyr and Boh would be lost.. :)
07 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: you are right france. don't dmz bur. we need the support to mun. thanks. let's kill the bastards.
07 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: mun s pie-tyr in case u want it
07 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: turkey, you know of course that you can leave italy with 2 scs without jeopardizing your position at all. a 3 way draw is acceptable to me.
07 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: actually italy can get defeated right this turn. 2 scs is the optimistic (for italy) scenario.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: you dont know what you are talking about.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: you were telling turkey to lick your balls yesterday, do you think he will conspire with you?
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: yes because this is not a game of good manners, it's a game of geopolitics. Have you ever heard of good manners playing any kind of role in real diplomacy?
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: ehm, yeah?? see anyone shouting obscenities in the UN?
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: france sorry for the moves to den and nws but there was a possibility that the move to bur was intented to stab me. that's why I had to prevent the worse. I ll re dmz them again next turn.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: well you might want to vote for a draw now germany. I missed my moves and we are losing ground.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: what happened to "let's kill these bastards" and "you can lick my balls" ?

Tur, with the amount of mistakes they are doing, it looks like we could turn this game around..
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: @France: Are you not worried about a stab with the fleet movements? We could work out a deal to free your fleets in the south.. at the moment it is taking you 8 units to hold 2 SCs.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Italy you are lucky. I'm bored of this shitty game so my draw vote is in. If you don't press it then well I promise I ll give Turkey all the room he needs to eliminate you :P
You can still suck my balls of course...
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Funny how you got bored only when your fortunes change for the worse. I will go for draw if Turkey wants, but I would like to see if he has reconsidered first.

Turkey: seems like we are doing alright - at worst we hold our ground, at best we may be able to turn this around. Should we go for a draw, or would you rather force them to stab each other? I have a disdain for unforced draws, so I would rather not draw, but I am willing to do it if you prefer it that way.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: please Italy don't make me laugh...
Deep in your heart you are now jumping up and down from pleasure of unexpectedly being included in the draw.
So cut the crap. You don't even deserve the draw. You are just damn lucky.
You have 3 hrs to press the draw button otherwise I ll cancel mine :)
Here you go champ :)
Go play the hero now.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: 52 mins left
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: are you 12 or what?
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I dont give a shit about being included in a draw in game of pot 105. If anything drawing with the likes of you is an insult. If I draw that's going to be because of my respect for Turkey.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: ok you lost your chance then.
I guess you prefer defeat than drawing with likes of me.
that makes you really mature. You must be bigger than 12.
Turkey I ll play the game supporting myself to hold within my lines so that you and France take your time to kill the moron.
btw time to reveal identities.
I'm hellalt.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: anlari

does it look like you're defeating anyone?
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: well this is just annoying. I went to work hoping this game would be drawn by the time I came back.
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Lol hellalt. You make me laugh every time

-lando
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: considering this is wta, doesn't all this seem a bit futile? everyone is just wasting their breath at this point
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: considering this is wta, doesn't all this seem a bit futile? everyone is just wasting their breath at this point
08 Oct 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: lol lando :P
You didn't tell us who you are France.
09 Oct 12 UTC Okay Turkey, draw or not? :P
09 Oct 12 UTC I'm away this week, I have a sitter entering moves. Checking this one because its interesting. I have not read the press. Up to you, really, you have my allegiance.
09 Oct 12 UTC You find it interesting because you are new in the game. The rest of us find it boring.
09 Oct 12 UTC just for the record:
1. Italy I didn't really believe you were not worth of participating in the final draw.
2. At some point I had decided to stab France but the fact that he kept the army in England made a really succsesful stab too risky so I just played it safe. Thanks for the cooperation France. You are a good ally!
09 Oct 12 UTC to be honest I still don't get why France didn't try to work out a deal with Turkey.
09 Oct 12 UTC I don't see it as a matter of being worthy - I think the players should consider alternative alliances before they submit to a draw in a WTA game. For example, France & Turkey declaring an alliance & simultaneously turning on their allies would throw the game in the open.
10 Oct 12 UTC France seemed to have no interest in that sort of thing.

As I said, I am also away. Maybe if I was checking regularly I would not have submitted to it. I don't know.

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Germany
hellalt (113 D)
Drawn. Bet: 15 D, won: 26 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
France
carson87 (102 D)
Drawn. Bet: 15 D, won: 26 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Turkey
Drawn. Bet: 15 D, won: 26 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Italy
anlari (8640 D)
Drawn. Bet: 15 D, won: 26 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
England
talbotreidwp (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Austria
rollo (530 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Russia
catzby17 (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Civil Disorders
talbotreidwp (100 D)England (Autumn, 1903) with 3 centres.
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