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Finished: 11 AM Sat 01 Sep 12 UTC
World War Z-4
1 day /phase
Pot: 519 D - Autumn, 2013, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Ghana]:I have no problem with a pause if we know someone is returning. Europe is more likely to be taken over by a new player. When do you need the pause, WC?
20 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Western-Canada]:Starting on the 23rd through the beginning of August.
20 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Ghana]:I think you all will be able to draw this among the big players before then, ir you want.
20 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Western-Canada]:Welcome back, Europe. Do you need a pause?
20 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Europe]:no im good now
20 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Europe]:do you need a pause
21 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Western-Canada]:Not quite yet, but in the near future, yeah.
21 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Ghana]:Looks like we won't finish before the pause is needed, so I went ahead and registered my vote for the pause. How long will you be out, WC?
21 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Western-Canada]:Two weeks or so.
24 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Ghana]:I think WC is gone, so he needs the Pause now.
24 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Western-Canada]:No, I'm not, but I will be after the coming retreats so a pause would be awesome. If I have to get a sitter because someone's going to be a dick, I will, so no, I won't CD. All that would do is put a bad perception out about you.
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Kenya]:sorry mate. I don't believe in month long pauses. Plus I have bad experiences with Pausing and spiteful people deciding to not unpause.
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Ghana]:I understand Kenya's experiences. I am currently in a game that was supposed to be paused two weeks. I think it has been almost a month, and someone else in that game said they'd need a pause for August. It is a bit much. But if you all can quickly Near-East, Brazil, and myself, then you should Draw it.
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Ghana]:Eliminate us I meant. WC just needs to take out Brazil, and you could be done.
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Western-Canada]:I am not interested in being done. Kenya, I know exactly what you're talking about and it's happened to me too. How's this.. if I'm not back by August 10, call the mods. I'll be back before then anyway.
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Western-Canada]:Anyway, why would I want to leave this game? I'm ahead, aren't I?
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Kenya]:Just get a sitter. Its no big deal.
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Western-Canada]:Yeah, but I'd rather play it out myself. Why can't you just pause? Force unpause if I'm not back on August 10. The mods can all see the chat log; it's obvious that I said all this.
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Kenya]:I don't believe the mods actively do this.
25 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Western-Canada]:Yes, they do. I've had it done before. If a pause is organized and someone doesn't unpause for their own benefit, they will contact the player who won't unpause and if no timely response and reason is given, they'll do it themselves.
25 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Ghana]:Good game all. I know you all might not want advice from the dead, but I would consider drawing it. Good luck, and hope to see you all again as friend or foe. :)
25 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Western-Canada]:I would consider pausing it but that isn't happening for some reason. I guess we all have our ways of being complete assholes.
25 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Kenya]:One way of being an asshole is leaving a board game for over 2 weeks and expecting everyone else to whittle their thumbs and wait for you
27 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: (yebellz): (message from the mods) Kenya, if you are concerned about the game resuming properly, we can force unpause the game on Aug 10 should Western-Canada fail to promptly return by the time he has promised to be back, given that Western-Canada has agreed to this.
27 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Kenya]:Thank you mods. The guarantee helps, though I still don't like the idea of pausing and losing my plans and thoughts (in my mind) for 2 weeks. I will do so since every other nation agrees to.
27 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:Thank you. Last night of my free Internet so I can leave easily. Kenya, I am scheduled to come back on August 6 but I have had so many flights cancelled and the next one to get me home is on the ninth. That gives me time, so the tenth will hopefully be much more than I need anyway. See you all then.
05 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:I'm back, thank you all.
13 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Europe]:so what should we do about starting this game back up again?
13 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:Oz is obviously gone, so probably email someone. I've annoyed them enough lately; someone else can email them.
14 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Kenya]:And you wonder why I didn't want to pause.
16 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:No, I don't wonder at all why you didn't want to pause, but you surely don't wonder why I wanted to pause.
24 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Kenya]:WC please message them, I dont know how
24 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:Maybe we should prearrange to find a replacement for Oz beforehand. I don't have any intention of drawing either way but it's useless to race you both for his units.
25 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: (zultar): Looks like this game has been paused past the supposed resume date. I can unpause it but I want to warn you before hand that both Oz and India have been gone for more than 14 days. Let me know through email what you want to do.
25 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:All right, thanks.

Kenya, Europe… two CDs in a game like this is enough for me to draw. I'd like to play it out but I'm not one for soloing that way. There are definitely people that would fill in. We can either look around for someone to jump in or we can let them both CD and draw it then. Up to you both.
25 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Europe]:i would be fine with just drawing after India and Oz get kicked. I feel this game has gone on long enough
26 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:Is that our final decision?
27 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Kenya]:Or better yet, unpause, wait for OZ to CD and then draw. I am perfectly fien with that.
27 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:That's what I'm saying. I'll email zultar back.
27 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: (zultar): Your wish has been granted. :)
27 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:That was quick, thank you.
27 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Kenya]:A 100 a piece isn't bad. I vote for a draw.
27 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:If Oz and India are gone, they aren't going to get their vote in anyway, so we should just wait them out.

If your interest is maximizing points, let me know and I'll solo ;)
27 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Kenya]:how will that max my points?
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:It would take coordination but I don't want to do that.
30 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [Western-Canada]:I'm not attacking anywhere, Kenya. If you want to disband my SEA fleet, you're welcome to do so. Don't displace WAO (or make any effort to do so) or I might happen to change my mind about this draw thing.
30 Aug 12 UTC [Western-Canada]:There we go, Europe?
30 Aug 12 UTC [Kenya]:They both are gone, Europe just draw now
30 Aug 12 UTC [Western-Canada]:Hey, maybe he'll CD too.
31 Aug 12 UTC [Western-Canada]:Good game guys, enjoy the draw. Well played game all around.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Western-Canada
bo_sox48 (4794 D Mod (G))
Drawn. Bet: 39 D, won: 173 D
34 supply-centers, 30 units
Kenya
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 173 D
19 supply-centers, 19 units
Europe
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 173 D
17 supply-centers, 15 units
Oz
Wodar (100 D)
Resigned. Bet: 25 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
India
Resigned. Bet: 25 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Argentina
riordan3 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Brazil
Primality (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
China
History Man (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Frozen-Antarctica
themanlaar (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Ghana
Jefe (134 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Libya
Dagabs (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 19 D
Near-East
Lt. Crunch (144 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Pacific-Russia
Kajin (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 17 D
Quebec
rpraab (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Russia
Napoleon123 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
South-Africa
WD009 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 19 D
USA
ThaHunters (1185 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Civil Disorders
ThaHunters (1185 D)USA (Autumn, 2003) with 2 centres.
rpraab (100 D)Quebec (Spring, 2003) with 3 centres.
megathendron (100 D)India (Autumn, 2012) with 6 centres.
themanlaar (100 D)Frozen-Antarctica (Autumn, 2003) with 3 centres.
Primality (100 D)Brazil (Spring, 2011) with 1 centres.
Wodar (100 D)Oz (Spring, 2013) with 10 centres.
History Man (100 D)China (Spring, 2002) with 3 centres.
zackhess (100 D)Western-Canada (Spring, 2002) with 6 centres.
Mayhem (100 D)Libya (Spring, 2001) with 3 centres.
Napoleon123 (100 D)Russia (Spring, 2003) with 2 centres.
blah (100 D)Pacific-Russia (Autumn, 2000) with 3 centres.
EasyTarget58 (100 D)South-Africa (Spring, 2001) with 3 centres.
WD009 (100 D)South-Africa (Autumn, 2001) with 1 centres.
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