[Europe]:Oh, and Sarg, don't make me regret having your back. | |
[Europe]:And if either End Now or Play On gets 9 votes, then that vote has been reached. It is a clear majority, 9 voyes. | |
[Ghana]:End Now | |
[Europe]:EN - 2 PO - 1 |
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[Brazil]:EN-3 PA-1 |
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[Quebec]:This is our preference irrelevant of our 'votes' at the bottom right? EN-3 PO-2 |
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[Russia]:Play On | |
[Near-East]:EN - 3 (near-east, europe, ghana) PO - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) |
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[Near-East]:correction: EN - 4 (near-east, brazil, europe, ghana) PO - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) |
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[Kenya]:You missed Brazil's vote to EN | |
[Kenya]:Ah, never mind | |
[Libya]:I would like to cancel or draw, but well, you can see that in the votes. | |
[Near-East]:Libya: yeah, votes are quite clear, even though some players still do not think that players actually mean their votes, anyway, the new summary is: EN - 5 (libya, near-east, brazil, europe, ghana) PO - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) |
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[Pacific-Russia]:end | |
[Libya]:All players have cancer or draw or both. all? no... | |
[Near-East]:EN - 6 (pacrus, libya, near-east, brazil, europe, ghana) PO - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) |
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[Frozen-Antarctica]:It is either cancel or play on for me. | |
[Europe]:But which do you prefer, FA? | |
[Europe]:FA=FK, but interestingly my typo still worked. | |
[Europe]:So after several days to think about it, I feel I do owe Babak an apology. I believe he honestly had the best itnerests of the game in mind when he did what he did. Were they the right actions? Not necessarily, but they were done with the best intent, and not ill will towards Sarg. My own actions were done with ill will, however, and that was uncalled for on my part. So Babak. This is a formal apology for the use of the language and for calling you a metagamer. I'm sorry. My actions were uncalled for and only made everything worse. Please accept this apology in the spirit it is intended. | |
[Frozen-Antarctica]:don't care. One or the other. I'll go with the majority. | |
[Europe]:Grrrrrrrrrr. Please cast a vote or we could end up at 8 and 8 and this will have been for naught. | |
[China]:I'll be support holding all my units again this turn and will do until the last remaining person stops being selfish. | |
[China]:I don't agree with having another vote as I doubt Macchiavelli will keep his word but for what it's worth, End Now. | |
[Europe]:EN - 7 (pacrus, libya, near-east, brazil, europe, ghana, china) PO - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) |
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[China]:Making it: END NOW - 8 (pacrus, libya, near-east, brazil, europe, ghana, china, frozen antarctica) Play on - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) |
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[Europe]:fortknox never officially declared he wanted it to end or continue. He has stayed with the "whatever everyone else wants" line, in part I think, because he is a mod and doesn't want any preceived influence on the game. So I'd keep it at the 7 to 3 vote right now. | |
[China]:Oh ok, I read him saying 'I'll go with the majority'. There is a clear majority both in your vote and in the actual in-game vote. | |
[China]:(but I understand) | |
[Europe]:Well, there isn't a clear majority in the >50% sense yet and I don't want this vote tainted. If we can show 9 people want this to end outright, then there can be no argument that the majority truly want it done and thos ewho say they'll go with the majority won't be able to quibble or pick nits. | |
[Ghana]:Well, I got f*ed this past turn. Near East decided he didn't want to move, and Europe told me he wasn't going to move so we stopped talking about details so I got screwed there as well. This is bullshit. | |
[South-Africa]:it's bullshit that someone tells you what they are going to do and then do something different? huh...imagine that. ;) | |
[South-Africa]:oh and for the record - EN! | |
[Ghana]:To me, falsely threatening to quit is outside the scope of the game, in the same way that I think that threatening to flip the board is not a valid tactic in face to face. | |
[Near-East]:EN - 8 (south africa, pacrus, libya, near-east, brazil, europe, ghana, china) PO - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) |
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[Europe]:END NOW - 8 (pacrus, libya, near-east, brazil, europe, ghana, china, south africa) Play on - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) One more absolute End Now vote and we have a clear majority. |
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[Near-East]:Why I do beleive cancel (or draw until we all are in play) is the solution. There was a clear interference and mistake made by Babak and the mods. Than it was followed by changed orders, changed behaviours and loss of spirit and faith. And so on ... we all know. Why I think it's a good solution to cancel (or draw), because: with closing this game early we would not just show fair play to everyone on the site, and in this game, but it would also send a strong message and create a very good precedent, when mods make a mistake than players can and do correct them taking some of the responsibility. I think with a cancel we would not just save our, the mods' and the site's dignity and show humility towards the game, but we could erase all the bad feelings we just got, and open the route to restart this game as early as january. Otherwise I fear we make so big and long lasting wounds for the site, the mods, the game and for eachother, that we may have never be able (not in the near future) to put a game like this together. The purpose of finishing this game, in my view, is much more about the site, the game itself and their future, than about gameid 73678. |
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[Europe]:roka +73678 | |
[USA]:Folks, I reiterate - this game should be cancelled. It simply is a travesty that we are continuing given the circumstances. I fail to understand the logic of a continuance. Please, let cooler heads prevail, and all cancel! | |
[Near-East]:END NOW - 9 (pacrus, libya, near-east, brazil, europe, ghana, china, south africa, usa) Play on - 3 (russia, quebec, kenya) Macchiavelli, you just got your majority ... |
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[Europe]:Fortknox and Macchiavelli - Please draw now. It is just you two. | |
[Near-East]:Macchiavelli, it's just up to you now ... | |
[Oz]:Time to put on the Drive soundtrack. | |
[Europe]:Macc is clearly not a person whose word you can trust. Although that isn't surprising in this game. Can all his neighbors please crush him while the rest of us hold/support hold each other and ourselves? Then the draw will happen the monent a line goes through his name. | |
[Russia]:Woo hoo! The game continues! | |
[Argentina]:I'm glad this game was a Draw rather than a Cancel, if for no other reason than it can serve as a warning for what NOT to do. Be seeing you, jerks -- and I say that lovingly. | |
[Oz]:Well, that was awkward. | |
[Argentina]::D | |
[India]:Well folks, wasn't that fun! Hope all your first time world game players enjoyed your experience and got a taste of world game fun! I really wish people wouldn't quit the site over what's pretty typical for a world game, but hey, that's your prerogative. Look forward to playing with all of you, besides the 3 or 4 of you who've sworn to quit webdiplomacy over 1 game, in the future. Happy holidays to everyone. | |
[China]:Look forward to playing you again too - glad we can put this wreck behind us. |
Kenya |
KingRishard
(948
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 8 supply-centers, 8 units | ||
Quebec |
Babak
(26982
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 7 supply-centers, 7 units | ||
Near-East |
rokakoma
(19138
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 7 supply-centers, 7 units | ||
Argentina |
thatwasawkward
(4384
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 7 supply-centers, 7 units | ||
Russia |
rhydon
(3098
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 7 supply-centers, 7 units | ||
Western-Canada |
Macchiavelli
(2416
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 6 supply-centers, 6 units | ||
China |
Sargmacher
(0
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 6 supply-centers, 6 units | ||
Oz |
Dunecat
(5899
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 5 supply-centers, 5 units | ||
India |
jmo1121109
(3817
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 5 supply-centers, 5 units | ||
Ghana |
uclabb
(589
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 5 supply-centers, 5 units | ||
Pacific-Russia |
stratagos
(3269
![]() ![]()
Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 4 supply-centers, 4 units | ||
Frozen-Antarctica |
fortknox
(2059
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 4 supply-centers, 4 units | ||
Brazil |
justinnhoo
(2343
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 3 supply-centers, 3 units | ||
South-Africa |
Darwyn
(1601
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 3 supply-centers, 3 units | ||
Europe |
Draugnar
(0
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 3 supply-centers, 3 units | ||
USA |
sweetwatersam
(5874
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Drawn. Bet: 200
![]() ![]() 2 supply-centers, 2 units | ||
Libya |
MuadDib
(1432
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Drawn. Bet: 213
![]() ![]() 2 supply-centers, 2 units |