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Finished: 03 PM Sat 12 Nov 11 UTC
Foam War
20 hours /phase
Pot: 385 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1907: or alternatively you could attack england
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Austria - if you leave me alone over these next two turns, and concentrate on wiping out Germany, and Italy - if you concentrate on wiping out France/England - then I will happily draw with both of you.
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1907: And I will build a fleet and help if that's what it takes.
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1907: im cleaning up france, that is a given, but austria and I (I believe) have an understanding for a 3x draw. russia built a tank, so he delayed things
04 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Russia, this isn't a trust thing at this point. Pretty much, Italy and I are going to keep even in centers (or at least I hope so) mainly by Italy picking up NMR countries' centers and hopefully with Italy bleeding one more of Turkey to me (that would put us both at 11 after this turn). Meanwhile, you are obviously going to look to take Berlin and Holland. Notice that I will have 11 with at most two more SCs in Turkey and (if I stabbed you) at most Berlin and Moscow. That is 15. i can't solo. Italy, we pretty muc have to assume he will keep bleeding centers if necessary because he really can solo, but you building armies really makes him more likely to solo than anything. If you go help take out England, the game can be over soon. If not, it is going to take a long time, and Italy will have 4 more centers, putting him in solo range, and, while I trust him completely, it is never wise to let someone get that high just in case they are having a bad day or something and make an unusual decision.
04 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1907: ok - as I said, I promise to help take out England - just give me 2 turns to build a fleet. in the meantime I will defend so that england can't take any of my cities. I will also move my Baltic Sea fleet over to help Italy against England.
04 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1907: you are also free to take Berlin and Munich
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'm not really in love with the aegean sea move...
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Well... Are you willing to give another center to me to keep us even?
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: your gonna get 2, im getting 1 , its gonna be 11 - 12 either way
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: You're right, my bad. That's fine with me.
05 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: At Russia, please leave St. Petersburg open so you can get a fleet. I give you my word that I will not attack Moscow.
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Ok Italy, let's do this. Austria - I am assuming you will not be attacking me while I help Italy knock out England.
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1908: I'm not. I probably will even give you Warsaw if you want.
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: So I personally would like to see Russia take Warsaw and Belgium, Italy take Liverpool, and me take one of the Turkish centers this turn. That way, Italy will have 12, I will have 11, and Russia will have 9 and we will have a truly stable 3 power balance so solos are near impossible. Thoughts?
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: looks like you have your mind set on taking turkey, I am not so comfy with that. let me explain, if you take 1 turkish center there is nothing to stop you from taking ALL turkish centers. except of course my trust, which you have but only within reason. my 2 turkish units are massively out matched
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: But see, here is the thing: Even if it were my goal to trick you and take all of Turkey, I have already forfeited Warsaw back to Russia, which further makes clear that I will not be soloing in this game. You still have a chance to, and I am hopeful that you are willing to cooperate to make us all feel comfortable as we reach the end of this game. Plus, even with you losing a Turkish center you still will have the most SCs out of anyone on the board.
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: well im going to lose an sc, someone took over france....
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: So then we'll be temporarily even
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: but i have to kill a unit?
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Just kill Smyrna or something. It is better for both of us to have a stronger Russia so that the other of us can't try to solo.
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Yeah, Destroy Smyrna, and ease the Austria's life.
Any reason for why he is bordering you, I bet he is moving Bulgaria as well, very soon.

@Italy
I suggest that you would move to back to Ionian sea, as fast as possible
07 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Also, it looks like France is not moving. Turkey, you continue to be a moron.
07 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Maybe, or maybe not?
07 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: What the heck, Italy.... Why did you take Belgium?
07 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: i didnt want to kill a unit. russia is plenty big anyway. all he as to do is take edi and i take london and we are all set
07 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm sure you understand why I consider that move a very scary one.
07 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: not really, if anything you are threatening me in turkey, belgium is not even near your SC's
07 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: You have 13 SCS... That is 5 away from soloing, not to mention you have one more on the way in England at least and the rest of the north is hardly secured at all. I do think I will need to keep pressuring Turkey just to keep you honest. I hope you will take out England swiftly so that we can be done.

@Russia- I think I will be letting you have Berlin this year as well... Please keep getting fleets so that you are a proper counterweight to Italy in the north!
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: england, sorry but you gotta die...
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: P.S. Despite my qualms about the Belgium thing, I have to admit that was a very pretty move aesthetically by you, Italy.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: well austria i would say we have both trusted and had trust issues with eachother, but we have made good allies.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Just letting you know my plan for this turn: I am going to give Berlin to Russia and take the rest of Turkey. You can fight me for it if you want, but I am going to try. If you let me, this will leave you up London and down Constantinople and Ankana for a total of 12 SCs, me up Constantinople and Ankara and down Berlin for a total of 12 center, and Russia up Berlin and Edinburgh for a total of 10 centers. I think it should be a no-brainer at that point that we will all draw.
09 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Russia, why are you building stuff to move on me when I am literally giving you centers?
09 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: i think you gave russia entirely too much credit, you realize we only included him in the draw because he put moves in every turn
09 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: That was enough in this sham of a game.
09 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Once again, I'm not planning to move on you Austria, and I'm not strong enough to do it if I wanted to. Another fleet isn't going to do anyone any good.
09 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Now let's work together and take out England as promised.
09 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: I'll be moving to Edinburgh this turn, and to Silesia. Austria - if you are still happy with the idea, then I will take Berlin in the Autumn. If not I understand.
09 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Don't move to SIlesia. Go straight to Berlin.
09 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: OK.
10 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Italy, if you don't want to give up centers, are you at least willing to vote for the draw? I am fully aware that we have to wait for England to be fully eliminated for it to be a 3-way and will not mess that part up. You're kinda scaring me a little, though, right now.
10 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Austria is Scared, YEY!!!
10 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: I just don't understand why Italy is making this more complicated than it needs to be. Nor do I understand why he isn't responding.
10 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: im still kinda upset you decided to attack my turkish SC's but we are one move away from a draw, so relax
10 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: All I'm saying is that I would be more relaxed if you were taking steps to make sure we all were on an even level.
11 Nov 11 UTC England is CD. If they still are when you log on, Italy, just vote for the draw now. They will not be included.
11 Nov 11 UTC are you sure about that? i thought i will only get 1/4 th points
11 Nov 11 UTC Yeah, I'm sure. :) Thanks for drawing... you really did have me worried!
11 Nov 11 UTC Also, when I saw your name just now, I recognized it, but couldn't remember why, but now I do... You were this guy!

gameID=13932

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Italy
vexlord (286 D)
Drawn. Bet: 55 D, won: 128 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Austria
uclabb (589 D)
Drawn. Bet: 55 D, won: 128 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Russia
timdamage (827 D)
Drawn. Bet: 55 D, won: 128 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
England
YeloMelo (0 D X)
Resigned. Bet: 55 D
2 supply-centers, 1 units
France
Ratnauli (336 D)
Defeated. Bet: 55 D
Germany
alppu (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 55 D
Turkey
Hernando (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 55 D
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