Finished: 09 PM Wed 02 Nov 11 UTC
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1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 1400 D - Autumn, 1907, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
10 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1902: You know who has not returned ANY of my messages? The USA! I keep warning him of the danger of German domination of Europe, and simply no reply!
10 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1902: =P
11 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1902: stupide americains.
13 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: What did I do wrong?
13 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: turkey looks good for the solo
13 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: or a turkey italy alliance- sorry just noticed italian fleet movement
13 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: That's right. I'm only 10 away from a solo - its soooooo in the bag! haha.

This has been quite a surprising game so far.
15 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1903: italy versus france in the very near future

eng and france on their way to dominance with one eventually stabbing the other

dont care which wins, both deserve cancer of the arse
15 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1903: Thats why I love this game! :-)
15 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1903: i would happily see anyone on this game get fucked up the arse by a tramp
15 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1903: does it have to be a tramp? do hobos count? what about vagrants?
16 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: Eng lied to me several times, France only once- so I'd rather be fucked by France

Everyone beware of eng and his "promises"
16 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: i wonder who is the nastier liar... turkey or england?
16 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: probably not as important a question as: who is the most effective liar?
16 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: you all do realize this game calls for people to lie right? I'm shocked that people are still surprised to be lied to ;)
17 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: At least I'm not complaining that I got lied to and screwed. I just asked why I got screwed over so badly.
17 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: To evaluate who was the worse liar:

Germany's attack on me is ill-founded, as it means he is leaving his back open. Anti-Russian openings rely on a western Triple, but Western Triples invariably convert into an E-F, as in this case. It is unfortunate that I could not convince Germany of this danger. Given that, England's lies are pretty normal...it's so advantageous to send a potential enemy's units to the irrelevant East so you can take his centres.

Turkey's stabs against Austria and me are also normal, given that both of us were weak after 1901, and if he did not stab, he wouldn't be so strong now.

I blame Germany!
17 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: Agreed that the German open was the deciding factor in the dynamics of this game. But I also give props to France for his superior position, he managed to threaten no one directly while growing profoundly strong. he is in a great position right now without having to 'stab' too many people.
17 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: i dont know about that, but you (turkey) have certainly done a great job of setting yourself up as the major player on the board with very little to stand in your way. good job!
17 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: No I think that france is being fatr too modest. He must be the favourite to take the solo (that is if he wants it).
17 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: france to win!
17 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: France always has the best shot at a solo irrelevant of the map. the position alone allows France to expand south and north at the same speed whereas Turkey can rarely get #17 or 18.

As soon as France takes tunis, his chanc of a solo jump dramatically since taking the middle and up to stp would give it 18.

count it out... how would turkey solo? best case scenario: 9+mos+war+vie+tri = 13. +italy = 16 (that's IF Turkey overcomes France there) then #17 and 18 are pretty much impossible. munich, berlin, marseilles and even tunis are easily defended.

that's the stark reality of Turkey's situation. England suffers the same fate. England can get to 17 pretty easily, but #18 has to be moscow, warsaw, venice, or tunis which are all easily defended by that point in the game.
17 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: france to win

turkey to cry about it
18 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1904: i would cry if there was a solo in a WTA game of this level. I've been told that advanced players would not let such a thing happen.

This will likely be a 4 or maybe 3 way draw.
18 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1904: thats me out then.... :(
18 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1904: with those disbands, I thought this was your intent.
21 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: No one trust turkey

He lied to me three times. More fool me for giving him extra chances, especially after Austrian warnings of being lied to also!!!
21 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Germany - I gave you the support - but it got cut!!
21 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: yep the turk lies because he enjoys it. Not to further an ambition of winning the game
21 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: There was a kid in my school years ago just like him

We called him "cunty chops"
21 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Dont get angry with him, feel sorry for him.
21 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: germany is right- turkey is a lying "cunty chops"
21 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: what I'm upset with is that my support from Albania was messed up. else Italy would be out an army.

also i wasted that budapest support to help Germany. should have just supported serbia to triest.

Good playing with you both Austria and Germany - I'm sorry your game has not been as successful as you would have liked, but It really has not been my fault that you were stabbed early on by italy and england respectively. I do hope we get to have other games together where the results can be different.
28 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: Italy and Russia - it was great playing with you. it seems the dynamics of this game did not lend themselves to our steady alliance, but such is unfortunately the fate of some in this game. I did enjoy the seasons where we worked closely together and I hope we can enjoy future games as allies if possible.
28 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: I've put in my draw vote. Let's call it a day.
28 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: good game, all! i will enter my draw vote when the build phase is over..
30 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Well, France my friend, it looks like Turkey entered moves and not a draw vote, so I think we have to assume he's trying for the solo. I can hold StP and Ber for sure, can you hold out?
30 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1907: i shall try. what a bummer.
30 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Thumbs up to Turkey for going after the win.
30 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1907: good luck turkey u stabbing lying little twat

:D
31 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I can not win. But there is a 2way available here =)
31 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Not cool dude, trying to play past a stalemate by refusing to draw. You're just going to make us more determined.

If you actually are hoping for a 2-way, it's only 233 points you stand to gain. And frankly the most likely 2-way draw I see is me and france...

Just hit the draw button and let's move on. This game is resolved.
31 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1907: draw pls
31 Oct 11 UTC draw please
31 Oct 11 UTC zzzzzzzzzzz
31 Oct 11 UTC turkey is a dumb mother fucker if he cant see the draw line
31 Oct 11 UTC Guys, this game is ALMOST at a stalemate line. its not completely there. why would I draw when I have a shot at a solo? its true that the solo is extremely unlikely, but why would i quit just because some eliminated players are whining? please respect the game and those still in it.

As for France and England. good game. this is a draw I have one opening that I see, but the English move also gave you guys an opening I don't like... the chance of me taking the win is less than me losing war/mos at this point and not worth it.

so good game... i'm drawing.
31 Oct 11 UTC good game all
31 Oct 11 UTC good game everyone!
31 Oct 11 UTC Hmmm. I wonder if I LOST GR in this game. What is everyone ranked?

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Turkey
Babak (26982 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 200 D, won: 467 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
England
Nadji (898 D)
Drawn. Bet: 200 D, won: 467 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
France
yaxay (1484 D)
Drawn. Bet: 200 D, won: 467 D
8 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
fulhamish (4134 D)
Defeated. Bet: 200 D
Germany
Cockney (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 200 D
Austria
dr rush (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 200 D
Russia
Gobbledydook (1389 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 200 D
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