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Finished: 02 AM Wed 23 Mar 11 UTC
triple alliance war
2 days /phase
Pot: 67 D - Autumn, 4, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Public messaging only, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
06 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1: Hello all. I am submitting moves, but with Greece out this early (in a 5 player game) I think the game is unbalanced. I request that all vote for a draw.
06 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1: wait! I'm here!
06 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1: Awesome- I canceled my vote to draw. Let the killing and backstabbing begin!
06 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1: (Thank you Cameron30)
07 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 2: Rome- this fleets are bound for Greece, yes?

Buddy? Pal??
07 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 2: Haha... Depends, do i need to worry about carthage??? because i would say yes, i need to be worried about the blue.
07 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 2: I was hoping you would move east and trust your back to me. Blue is a soothing color. And after all, I haven't attacked you (yet). :)
07 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 2: hi greece, dont want a bounce in crete!! go to miletus, thanks, and welcome to the game, good luck
07 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 2: Hi Greece.. don't want to boune in Miletus.. please go to crete.. :)

Welcome and good luck.. :D
08 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 2: greece, persia cant bounce you in miletus!!
09 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 2: No. I do what i want. Im not having you two tell me where to go and what to do.
10 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 3: awww.. but we have the best in heart for you.. :).. ppssttt rome want to split greece.. ;)
10 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 3: May I offer a suggestion? Everyone attack everyone but the blue. Blue is such a peaceful, tranquil color. Blue could never hard you. Blue wouldn't want to harm you. Blue is your friend.
10 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 3: yes but blue has all the good stone that I need for my palaces and guest villas.. and it looks good on the walls..
10 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 3: Hey anyone ever wonder if the office of the pope was made to look like Ceaser from Rome??
10 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 3: For you to get to me means you must first visit Egypt. Why not just strip the Pyramids down?
10 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 3: Well TRUE they do have some nice rocks there.. well okay but i still love the blue tile from Carthage..
10 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 3: I'll be sure to polish some for you. If only I knew how to use it myself . . .
11 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 3: Egypt- you are a truce breaker and a moron. We will now tie up 4 (four) units fighting over 1 supply center. I will enjoy watching the Persian overrun you!
12 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Greece- the Persian won't want the Roman growing too big. You could probably arrange a truce in Dacia and move your army to Illyria. The Roman cannot defend his rear.
12 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Egypt, don't listen to Carthage. You're doing fine against Persia.
Greece, don't listen to Carthage. I'm not moving your way, focus on the Persians, and we can work together .
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Rome- please explain to the Greek how he might gain ANY supply centers from the Persian?
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Carthage, i dont need to do anything. Greece knows what to do.
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Rome- Then why are you telling him what to do? "Greece, don't listen to Carthage. I'm not moving your way, focus on the Persians"

I just ask you to explain to him how this arrangement benefits the Greek? We know how this benefits Rome . . .
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Ummmm... Greece doesn't have to focus on one side while i can focus on you.... its a win win.... For someone who seems to be decent at this game you dont seem to understand that simple concept.
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: You are asking him to focus on one side, the Persian. That is a win for you perhaps- you get supply centers. I ask again, what does the Greek get? Where is the "win win?"

Will you answer this question please? If I were the Greek I would want that answer. If you are that confident that you are offering him a fair deal, why won't you answer the question?
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: I dont have to answer to you anything. If GREECE(not "the Greek") would like an answer, he can ask it himself. You do not determine the diplomacy of everybody Carthage.
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Then you have no answer, lol. Just pointing that out.
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: I have no answer to you. I have already sent Greece a message.
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: I have no answer to you. I have already sent Greece a message.
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: did you stutter?
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: On the pleasanter side, how are your palaces Persia?
14 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: ahh they are nice.. we are planning on importing some Byzantinum rugs.. our Persian rugs are good, but some variety is always welcome..
14 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Would you like me to send a naval unit over with some Carthaginian furnishings? I can stop in, say, Sidon, then later Tyre?
14 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: You kill me Rome! I assume you will double Sardina so don't go Punic-Sar, then I end up giving it to you? Aaaaarrrrgh!!!

Well-done . . . :)
15 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: hey all if you hit ready instead of save the game goes faster..
15 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Egypt has a job which makes him go away for days sometimes. I think that is what we are seeing.
15 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 3: ahh okay .. hmm anyone here from Japan? Just wondering since it would be best to assume that net connection would be spotty at best..
18 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 4: With the Greek not moving I am requesting a draw. A 5 player game is simply too unbalanced with one player not moving.

I hope you will vote for a draw as well.
18 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 4: i happily will vote for a draw, is very unbalanced
18 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 4: Egypt, please click the "draw" vote below your orders then. Thanks.

Rome? Persia?
20 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 4: Thank you Rome. I'm sorry it came to this. You are a good opponent.

Persia, you are the last vote. I will send stone if needed . . . . :)
20 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 4: when this comes to a draw, thank you all for playing, and for your pacience with me, bye, hope to see you in battlefield in better conditions :)
21 Mar 11 UTC All- I am aware that Sparky took Greece, but I remain feeling that this game has been hopelessly compromised. I felt it from the first time the game was stopped by a moderator.

I will play because I committed to, but I still ask Persia (and now Sparky) to vote Draw. There is no joy in this game!
21 Mar 11 UTC feel the same
21 Mar 11 UTC awww but i was doing good .. for once. ;) voted draw.. sorry have been moving for the past week so running with msgs didn't really read just move and submit..
21 Mar 11 UTC Thanks, and you were doing good. You or Rome stood to win. But it wouldn't mean that much with the, essentially "free", Greek centers. Yes?

I would hope to play against (or with) you again in the future. Thanks again.
21 Mar 11 UTC thanks too, this is fair, you played really good persia, hopefully would mess you all again
21 Mar 11 UTC :) Maybe someone start a password game and we can restart...
21 Mar 11 UTC I would like that, BUT- am leaving the country for 2 weeks in 3 weeks. I am not starting any new games till I return, sorry.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Carthage
Froctal (607 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 13 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Persia
Guyana (168 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 13 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Rome
DJDraper (105 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 13 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Egypt
mariscal (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 13 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Greece
Sparky (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 13 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
Civil Disorders
Cameron30 (100 D)Greece (Spring, 4) with 5 centres.
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