Finished: 06 AM Mon 18 Aug 08 UTC
Private Grab Your Partners
1 day /phase
Pot: 105 D - Autumn, 1910, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1902: It's not that I don't trust you on your honor, but it just provides you with a possible advantage not available to other players.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: I just wanted to test the water. It can be fun to establish rules, and then see whether (and how far) a too literal interpretation of those rules will be tolerated. The conversation WAS trivial, and is obscure only to those who don't speak French or German AND can't be bothered to use free online translators. I'll translate for you if you like, though I can't speak a word of German, let alone Chinese. I can just about count to ten in French....

From now, I agree that no foreign language press may be used.

Merde.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: Hell, I'll translate even if you don't like:

Was ein listiger Sprachforscher Sie sind!
What a cunning linguist you are!

Ein Eroberer muß die Sprachen seine Leute kennen.
A conqueror must know the languages of his people.

Cela est une idée intéressante. Plutôt, nous assassinons simplement leurs enfants et crions français à eux jusqu'à ce qu'ils comprennent.
That is an interesting idea. Instead, we simply kill their children and scream at them in French until they understand.

Peut-être j'utiliserai cette méthode contre les Russes. Mais au lieu avec allemand.
Maybe I will use this method against the Russians. Only, with German.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: Was that last line yet another allusion to Backend of Forever?
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: No, it was the Austrian that said that.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: F/R official proposal to G/T: We will withdraw from German territory (although France claims Belgium as French territory). We have no desire for further hostilities. Judging by Austria/Italy's aggression in the southeast and England's in the north, we are confident that you will agree that we need to rally against a common foe rather than squabble amongst ourselves for a couple of centres
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: .
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: I'm all for this, Germany's call on Belgium but it certainly seems a reasonable enough trade for Kiel; I certainly believe we could help each other against E/A/I's aggressions.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: England in the meantime hopes Germany will not forget how well we have worked together thus far, and that our relationship will continue to flourish as we rally against the French and the Russians. England also hopes Germany will take note of how advantageous the former's position is at this point in time and will act in his own best interests.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: France wishes to point out that England is pink, and therefore probably a bit gay.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: England wishes to point out that France is a rather flamboyant blue... and also that England's on top at present. Easily the more favorable gay.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: France bows to England's superior understanding of fairy culture.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: England shrugs, wonders at France's ramblings, remembers that it's France, and then points out to Germany the folly of allying with a country headed by one with such an unreliable mind.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: Also, Germany can have Denmark. I'll support you in.
15 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: Unreliable mind? Hey, I graduated from the Robert Mugabe school of guerrilla diplomacy, I'll have you know....

France encourages Germany to take advantage of gayboy's kind invitation to penetrate the Danes.
16 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1903: Italy encourages Germany, and all others, to disregard all messages in the global forum, as it undermines my sick desire to play god. Italy also encourages Germany to take a minute, and think about how closely the Ionian Sea resembles the state of Virginia.
19 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: You'll pay for this Austria (shakes fist)!
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: And here we are: Harry Noballs as a 9 center Italy in 1905!
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: I blame germany for such a result
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: Ah, but could it really be his fault? After all, who could have engineered a Anglo-German alliance? :)
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: Anglo-Germany is all well and good. But there eastern counterparts didnt get along as well
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: Because I didn't want them to :)
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: Now might be a good time for all the allied nations of Europe to stop shitting on each other, and move on to greener pastures, don't you think?
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: I disagree, but I am surprised that you did not bounce me in Marseilles out of spite.
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: But are you surprised that I surprised you?
20 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: Anyway, I'm not motivated by spite, but but vengeance. Spite is just petty malice. Vengeance is the real deal.
22 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1905: Anyone feeling the love for a support anywhere? ;)
23 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1905: I can't tell you where without them knowing, and then being able to stop it.
26 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Hey Germany, want support back into Denmark and from there into Sweden?
26 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: ...In exchange for not knocking me out of Brest or helping the Italian to do so?
26 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sure. Not interested in Brest. It's all yours.
26 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Well... this is awkward
27 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Germany, it's time for a grand alliance now. If we don't ally up against Italy he will run away with the game. Please join with us.
27 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Hey, what did I say about the global forum? :)
27 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: And teaming up on Harry Noballs just seems cruel...
27 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: You do remember this is a team game Germany? I know you sold out Turkey... but its pretty easy to see what will happen if you help fight italy
27 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Russia has a good point. If you help against me, England and Austria draw 17-17. If you stick with me, you survive with a nice chunk of land.
27 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: I wouldn't be too sure about that.
27 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1907: Austria and I are perfectly willing to negotiate a three-way draw between Germany, Austria, and me.

In terms of which option is better, note that the draw is better up until Germany has 12 or more supply centers. Let's be realistic here: is that going to happen? No, no it's not. Germany and Italy only have the option of going after Austria, while in the meantime I keep nicking supply centers on the north side. At that point Italy will wise up and see what the winning side is, and stab you down to nearly zero centers. This scenario is likely to end up with you being defeated or just barely surviving00 but with Italy likely to have pulled out the win.

Stick with us and we'll guarantee the three-way draw. It's a wrench for us, but we really don't want Italy to win.
28 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1907: Fleet The fleet at London move to English Channel .
Army The army at Liverpool move to Wales via land.
Fleet The fleet at Skagerrack support move to Sweden from Denmark.
Fleet The fleet at Irish Sea support move to English Channel from London.
Fleet The fleet at Brest support move to English Channel from London.
Army The army at Moscow move to St. Petersburg .
Fleet The fleet at North Sea move to Norway .

Sorry to keep asking you this, but can you see a better set of moves? I really want to pile on MAO, and if I lose Brest I should be able to retreat to Gascony...
28 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1907: Oh hi, this is global channel. Shouldn't matter, though, what else would I do at this point in the game? And besides, things might get shaken up, so don't rely too heavily on it. =)

Austria, if you would please respond privately that would be much appreciated.
28 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1907: Ah fuck, I gave the wrong support
28 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1907: Ah great, he gave the wrong support!
28 Aug 08 UTC Spring, 1907: lol
31 Aug 08 UTC Autumn, 1908: Hey England! Support hold kiel. Come on.. I know you want to...
03 Sep 08 UTC Autumn, 1909: Damn I meant to hit Bulgaria, not bounce in Rumania.
03 Sep 08 UTC Autumn, 1909: Do not worry about it. We dont mind :)
03 Sep 08 UTC Autumn, 1909: I'll be sure to stop inputting my moves at 4am, as it will probably reduce my mistakes.
04 Sep 08 UTC Autumn, 1909: Mwahaha, don't believe everything you read in the forum :)
04 Sep 08 UTC Autumn, 1909: Haha. I answered your question and I didn't even make the connection

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Italy
Won. Bet: 15 D, won: 499 D
19 supply-centers, 17 units
England
Katsarephat (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D, won: 210 D
8 supply-centers, 9 units
Germany
Cheleon (1153 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D, won: 131 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
Austria
StonedRaider (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D, won: 53 D
2 supply-centers, 4 units
Russia
Centurian (3257 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
France
Feckless Clod (777 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Turkey
Shisuren (587 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
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