Finished: 08 AM Mon 04 Apr 11 UTC
Featured Private TGM Champions' Trophy 2011
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 1750 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
16 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: Germany, I am certainly glad that in such a high caliber game, others would be writing to you to engage in diplomacy. Were you expecting otherwise? I'm glad you seem so pleasantly surprised to be talked to.

And seeing how this is a high caliber game, I am confident that the other players have all been at 8 centers themselves in the past and realize that getting 10 more is no mean feat. I'm also confident that they will all analyze the situation carefully to forestall a long-term threat, including propping you up for as long as possible... but I am sure they are happy to have been warned by you in the global tab just in case they had missed last turn's developments =P
16 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: And they are no doubt grateful for your sarcasm
16 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: I hope so. I'm sorry you had to be the target, but your initial post initiated it. Too bad I don't have a more biting wit, moments like these, i'd love to be able to come up with a Colbert quip.
16 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: to tell the truth, germany was also genuinely surprised that france would attack her...
maybe she truly didn't expect these replies?
16 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: Ok now I am laughing :)
16 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: Merriment all around. I'm glad.
16 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: Crosspost...I was laughing about France's Colbert reference
19 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1904: I will be asking for a pause starting March 4 (if I am still alive then). I'll be away for a week, however I should have wifi there, in which case I will unpause as early as the night of March 5. I'll send a reminder here the day before I leave. Thanks to everyone in advance.
19 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1904: no problem. I'm sure we will all try our best to make sure you wont have to both with such a pesky pause by mar 4 =P
22 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Good game England.
22 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: You think so???
22 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: pretty low standards.
23 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Not true
02 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1906: A friendly reminder-I will be asking for a pause on Friday morning. I will unpause as soon as I can.
06 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: just getting hooked up to internet now. we can unpause and thanks again. will respond to individual messages in next few hours.
07 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: guys- I'm very sorry, I have a busy couple of days, but will be able to unpause on Tuesday, i hope that is ok with you all. apologies all around.
08 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: fine with me
13 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: with apologies all around... I've had a crazy week.

I'm back on and ready to play if everyone else is as well.
14 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: I will unpause once I get back from work this evening - I've not checked for a few days, and there's a few messages I need to read properly when I unpause, say in about 6 hours from now.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: Well, that's it for me. Starting to really dislike TUR lately. Very limited options if the west implodes. Too many AIRs.

Good luck to the remaining powers.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sorry we didnt get a chance to play together , Turkey. I too have had problems with getting out of the box, literally, as Turkey. Once I get out, I'm good, but the start is difficult if everyone gangs up on you.
20 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I've no way to contact Austria, which is a bit rubbish, since the game is about to be ruined by a NMR...
20 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Rubbish indeed!! SInce this is the Champ Tournament, I respectfully request a do-over of that turn!
20 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: motherfuck! Goddamnit! I went on a one day getaway with the family and figured I could enter orders a few hours before the turn was up but could not get internet access until just now. My sincerest apologies to R-I-G...I just fucking ruined this game. Probably the worst mistake I've ever fucking made. Your fucking welcome France, and I mean that as begrudgingly as it fucking sounds. FUCK! What a fucking SHIT way to win.
20 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: No no lets officiallly request a do-over from a Mod--I will enter a Forum thread
20 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: In the meantime, I have entered Pause and Cancel and recommend you guys do the same. Even France-you want to win for real, not by accident, don't you?
20 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I think it's fair that France has a say here. He, after all, was the candidate most likely to win. I'll wait to hear what he says before I comment.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Why all the drama? France has no fault that AUS missed a turn, there was no pause request, you can stop him. Bad luck for Ger though.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Who is in charge of this tournaent-does anyone remember who set it up? was it Ghost? Abgemacht says we have to contact the Tournament Director
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: And yes I agree that everyone should have a say in what happens, especially France.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I accept the fact that NMR is part of the game. France, while benefited by the NMR, has played no part causing the NMR. I am open to options, but personally I don't think we need to do anything..
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I just noticed this whole broo ha-ha...

the fact is, if I'd seen the NMR I'd have moved to WMS instead of SPa or taken some other advantage of the situation. the only thing that happened was that I took mun.

but more importantly, this game is a draw... I can't get tun... even if Germany is eliminated, which was already the most likely scenario, I cant get the 18th.

this game will end with France at 17 with Swe/StP/Mun (and Ber as #17 if it gets there).

I dont really see how the Austrian NMR really ruined this game!

by the way - what is the scoring criterion for this tournament? I don't even remember.

as for cancel or draw, I don't think either of those are fair simply because AH NMR'd. but if AH needs a pause I'm fine with that, just like I was last time - which gave Italy and Austria all the time in the world to coordinate their southern strategy.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: The scoring mechanism, as I can remember, as nothing to do with number of centres. If this game ends as a draw, another game is played.

If the second game still cannot produce a winner, then the one with the best result on a WTA basis (i.e. the guy who get draws in both games) will be the champion.

If there is a tie, then the players involved in the tie will play some strange France-Austria 2-player games, which I still don't know how to operate.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I will accept whatever outcome we all agree on. No matter how you slice it, it was my fault. I take full blame here. My apologies once again to everyone.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I think we've got two options here which are fairly obvious:

1.) Play on and see where we go.
2.) Scratch and start a new game

We can continue this game, no problems. However, we do now know pretty much who we all are now after the forum thread. Also, as France himself has pointed out, this game will end in a draw.

A/I/R is now in a position to stop France at the traditional stalemate line. R/A/G in the north are simply holding the line, with the liklihood that G will be defeated, but the line held between Prussia and Tyr. Equally, I/A can't push past F in the south after France's gains in Denmark/Munich - new fleets will safely block up the western Med.

Could I suggest that we accept that this game is heading for an inevitable draw, and start again? This suggestion would need consent from all the remaining players, *including* France.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: (figlesquidge): I've been watching you here, but email me/mods when you've reached an agreement
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I shall vote to play on.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I like Italy's suggestion, however I will yield to the majority opinion, whatever it turns out to be.
22 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Hey guys... I'm back and now seeing this conversation...

I really don't care... in the end, this is a drawn game. I can't really hold munich or get a solo... so we'll have to play game two anyways... so we an just finish this off and go to game two no?
22 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: do we really need a pause?
22 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: I don't see a reason to pause
22 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: OK I guess we are playing on
22 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: I think finishing it off to the draw shouldn't take too long. I'm all ready to go...
22 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: you can get munich...
still no solo, but you can have munich.
02 Apr 11 UTC well at least can you guys draw now?
02 Apr 11 UTC Good game all. Sorry crazyter for the finish wo you.

Best of luck to all of you in your second game.
02 Apr 11 UTC When do we restart?
02 Apr 11 UTC RIght away I hope
03 Apr 11 UTC whomever starts it should probably PM the others...

I will be able to join on Mon evening...
05 Apr 11 UTC I've started the second game of the trophy.

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=55446

password is game2

I've also taken the liberty to set the pot as 5 points, as the original rule. Hope that's Ok for all.

Looking forward to play with all of you.

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France
Babak (26982 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 250 D, won: 438 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Austria
Darwyn (1601 D)
Drawn. Bet: 250 D, won: 438 D
8 supply-centers, 6 units
Russia
Laoban (1230 D)
Drawn. Bet: 250 D, won: 438 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
Drawn. Bet: 250 D, won: 438 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
England
TheWizard (5364 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 250 D
Germany
Crazyter (1335 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 250 D
Turkey
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
Defeated. Bet: 250 D
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