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Finished: 06 PM Wed 13 May 20 UTC
レモンアメ
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1915, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by tsvi14 (163 D)
05 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
05 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: New Italy
05 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: Hi:)
07 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
07 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1904: new russia.
07 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1904: Hi Russia!
07 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1904: Привет!
08 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1904: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
10 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1904: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
10 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1904: Greetings from New France.
11 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: Bonjour!
11 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: I attacked marseille with Spain but it didn’t disrupt support. Am I missing something?
11 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: An attack by a country on one of its own units doesn’t cut
support. This rule is in the same spirit as the Self-Dislodgment rules.
A country can’t dislodge one of its own units, nor can it cut its
own support.
see page 16.
https://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/ah/diplomacy_rules.pdf
12 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: Italy was in marseille, not me.
12 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: sorry, wrong rule. let me see it again.
12 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: page 12: "In Diagram 16, the German support isn’t cut by the attack from
Warsaw because that is the province into which support is being
given. To cut support, the Army in Warsaw would have to dislodge
the Army in Silesia, not merely attack it."
17 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1906: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
19 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: My mission on this game is almost accomplished. I have recovered from the Russian attack and they are out of the game now...
I shall continue to the end but I've got other games to play, I VOTE FOR A DRAW
22 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: I will draw once Germany and Turkey are destroyed.
03 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1911: The moment has arrived, and I expect you to fulfill your promise and accept the draw NOW!
04 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1911: Ok. I'll vote for a draw once I see you and Italy have it down as well.
04 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1911: As we suspected :)
04 May 20 UTC Spring, 1912: I draw!
04 May 20 UTC Spring, 1912: me too
05 May 20 UTC Spring, 1912: May England be honourable and cast their vote.
Even those eliminated from the game are watching...
05 May 20 UTC Spring, 1912: indeed.
05 May 20 UTC Spring, 1912: Oh sorry I didn't see this till now I'll put it down
05 May 20 UTC Spring, 1912: England why no draw till now?
05 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Lol, What a Surprise
05 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: He aiming for a solo win so it seems Italy and Austria are going to team up.
05 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Really and truly what determines who wins at this point is Italy's decisions.
05 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: It does look like there was some conflict over Piedmont
05 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Thanks for watching and being so accurate about what's going on.
Some players seem to be so selfish only they believe their own perception of reality!
06 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Good game everyone; I'm sorry for being misleading earlier.
That's just the game though.
06 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Again, sorry for being misleading, but it IS diplomacy.

Anyway, everyone had a good game and you all were fun to play with.
07 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: It is precisely the game!
When I continued playing instead of unbalancing the game if I withdrew, you agreed a draw, that's not diplomacy, it's about setting the game rules beforehand.
If you break them, you're cheating and honour is something unknown to you!
07 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: No - diplomacy is meant to resemble real-world diplomacy.

If I told you I was going to draw, that doesn't mean I was actually going to. I never put down a draw, and lying is not a problem in the game of diplomacy.
07 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: I'm sorry, but lying is an integral part of the game.
07 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: The same could be applied to real life. If you're a compulsive lyer it's your problem.
Here in the game, if you cannot separate when you say something as the player or as the role you play...then you have an even bigger problem!
07 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: You are right. But when I said, I'll draw if you guys do, I was speaking as the role I play... you should know never to trust someone in this game; there was no indication I was speaking as the player rather than the role. But I won't continue arguing here.

You made it a good game, so thank you for that. But lying is part of the game, always.
07 May 20 UTC Spring, 1913: Come on Austria, This is the game. I told you how to force the draw.
12 May 20 UTC Good game, everyone!
12 May 20 UTC congratulations, tsv14.
diplodoco. given this is your first game, you have done very well.
13 May 20 UTC Yeah, I'd be interested to know, is it your first game of Diplomacy or just on this site?
13 May 20 UTC First on this site, only one previous on other site (play diplomacy)
Unfortunately, the last one of this kind of slow in any site...
I enjoyed it and thank you for what I've learnt
13 May 20 UTC Yeah, for only your second game you've lasted a really long time.
14 May 20 UTC Much better than me I have lost so many games and won only one. Not counting 1v1
14 May 20 UTC Yeah, this is the first game I've won (not counting one where everyone else stopped caring), and I've only really played three true games (again not counting that one).
14 May 20 UTC I only learnt to draw playing Germany, with Russia as true allies!
https://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=168232
18 May 20 UTC Sorry, I was Austria... Having killed Germany, we forced France to surrender...not sharing the draw as they were allies!

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

England
tsvi14 (163 D)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 35 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
Austria
diplodoco (130 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
15 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
GalahadIII (1939 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
1 supply-centers, 3 units
Russia
curupira (3491 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Germany
Inkfinger (167 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
LapatinszkiS (102 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
France
flyinmonky (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
tebasj (122 D)Italy (Autumn, 1903) with 4 centres.
Neagat (100 D)Italy (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
Yukichan11 (130 D)France (Spring, 1904) with 5 centres.
GAT (100 D)Russia (Autumn, 1903) with 3 centres.
Rusty1428 (0 D X)Russia (Spring, 1902) with 7 centres.
もなか (100 D)Austria (Spring, 1901) with 3 centres.
Shac (100 D)Turkey (Spring, 1903) with 5 centres.
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