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Finished: 12 AM Thu 04 Jun 20 UTC
Private The Masters 2020 R4G7
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1916, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
3 excused missed turn
Game won by TemplarsBane (1608 D)
06 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused
13 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: WAT

I do not remember not putting in orders!
13 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: I am like 90% sure I put in orders. waat
13 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Why didn't it default like it does in every other game when someone doesn't put in orders?
13 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: The only option is that, at some point, Austria clicked "Save" or "Ready" but had all Holds issued for orders. A ROUGH break, but not salvageable. No crippling damage done.

Not sure it's viable for us to reset and do that phase again since we have all the new information though.
13 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Oh, yeah, I wouldn't ask for a reset. Especially when the damage isn't catastrophic
15 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Didn't fully realize this had happened! Well, I'd support whatever you choose to do, though I assume just ordering holds while Russia is allowed into Warsaw, we wait for Autumn and then Russia builds another army in Moscow and we restart normal play next Spring would be a bit unusual.
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Man, my game fell apart. Didn't pay enough attention for a few moves in a row.

GG I guess, lol
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Yep - tough moves for you
Anything I can do to help?
03 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1911: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
10 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
11 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
11 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Looking into this delay
15 May 20 UTC Spring, 1913: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Received a pause request for a day
16 May 20 UTC Spring, 1913: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: One more year it seems!
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: Turkey's attack on Bulgaria could have caused a German solo, lol
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: Yeah that was a missed opportunity on my part. Oh well. The end is sort of a foregone conclusion at this point.

It's been well fought by everyone though! A very exciting, fun game!
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): I'm very confused as to why Austria wouldn't die on a sword to stop the solo. If he had kept Serbia, perhaps it could've been done.
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: I won't claim to understand it, but I'm certainly not going to protest it.
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: I was pretty pissed off, figured I was inevitably going to be eliminated
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: France sent me some press that made me really want to throw the game, lol
20 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): And here I thought tournament scoring prevented fear of elimination. Because there's no difference between that and a draw.
20 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: Game is ranked for GR tho
20 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: There's a discrepancy between the tournament's metric and the game system's, and I value my GR
20 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: Games should be unranked otherwise, or have some kind of custom scoring or something
21 May 20 UTC Spring, 1914: I'll say this, this game is VERY tense! Super fun.

Is the final center going to be Liverpool? Edi? Lon? Portugal? Spain? Brest? Bul? Greece? Venice?

Will I lose Sev? Munich? Bel? Something else?

SO INTENSE. I just want to know how it ends lol. I don't want to have to wait a week or two.
21 May 20 UTC Spring, 1914: Turkey withdrew his draw and is probably going to fail to support Bul again, so probably that.
22 May 20 UTC Spring, 1914: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Games are ranked to get people to try seriously in the tournament. Past tournaments have had people throw games because they were unranked and thus people didn't face any consequences. That was a greater danger when it comes to a tournament like the Masters, which places such emphasis on solos. I've had to deal with so many controversies coming from unranked tournament games in the past 8 or so years I've been running a tournament that I will never willingly have an unranked tournament game.

Because think of it this way - you stop the solo - you lose GR but don't lose standing in the tournament. You throw - you still lose your GR, and you also lose standing in the tournament. One is strictly better than the other
22 May 20 UTC Spring, 1914: I'm not sure I'm somewhat lost on the rules, but it seems you've messed things a bit in the last paragraph; shouldn't it be 'Because think of it this way - you stop the solo - you lose standing in the tournament but don't lose GR. You throw - you still lose your standing in the tournament, and you also lose GR. One is strictly better than the other'?

In any case, I'd love if my previous tournament games were ranked, it would have been great to my GR :)
22 May 20 UTC Spring, 1914: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Well, this presuming he dies on the sword to stop the solo. No way was he making a draw. And the kids in standing from not getting a board top is minimal compared to letting a solo happen
22 May 20 UTC Spring, 1914: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): *loss in standing
23 May 20 UTC Spring, 1914: Anyway, not that it matters much now, as we'll draw despite that Balkan crisis.
23 May 20 UTC Spring, 1914: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Shoot, I might have spoken too soon.
24 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1914: :)
28 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1915: Gg
28 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1915: Don't jinx it for me now. I've waited too long for that!

It's isn't over until it's over. France is incredibly cunning. He might just pull this one off, though I sure hope he can't find a way.
28 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1915: Austria is likely saying that because it not only seems over, but because I made it clear the guessing game around Edinburgh was crucial.

I’d have appreciated some insight! However, I made the wrong guesses, as much as it pains me. I may still get lucky, but this poor guess was a major blow...
28 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1915: To me it seems unwinnable, maybe I'm wrong.
28 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1915: In fact, you're right, but we don't want Germany to think it's over, relax and make a mistake
28 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1915: I wouldn't consider the game unwinnable. Quite the opposite in fact :P
30 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1915: Well, I did warn you not to relax!
30 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1915: Phew. This is easily the hardest game of Dip I've ever tried to win...
31 May 20 UTC Spring, 1916: You can end it all real easily!
02 Jun 20 UTC Oh wow. Finally. HUGE props to France. What a great, fun game.

Sorry it dragged out by a few years, everyone but the solo was so close I could taste it!
02 Jun 20 UTC Moderator: (goldfinger0303): So I can finally say the other thing that was bothering me.

Why didn't Turkey eliminate Bulgaria, but an army in there, and build another one to push to Greece?
02 Jun 20 UTC In the end here? It would have been 2 vs 2 in terms of support. Austria would have remained.
02 Jun 20 UTC Well done Germany. Good game.
03 Jun 20 UTC Good game all
03 Jun 20 UTC GG

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Germany
TemplarsBane (1608 D)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 35 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
France
Survived. Bet: 0 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Turkey
allanxo (1179 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 5 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Italy
Josafina (118 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Austria
Restitution (95 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
England
nguyenmt (5028 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
The Czech (42580 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
EvW (72 D)France (Autumn, 1906) with 7 centres.
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