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Finished: 03 AM Mon 13 Jan 20 UTC
Private The Masters 2020 R2G1
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1907, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
3 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): I'll get to this one this evening when I'm back at home and have access to my spreadsheet.
21 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Hi all. You're good to go! Best of luck
21 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck to all!
21 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Very happy that this starts : may the best player win!
21 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1901: By the way, since this game started quite late (radical timezone difference), I will be hittin the sack and not able to respond to messages til tomorrow, or when I wake up.
21 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1901: I just want to say that it's an absolute honor to be here, playing in the Masters Tournament with all of you. Win, lose, or...well lose, I look forward to having a great time with the very best of webDiplomacy! Cheers!
22 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Apologies to all, was out with a cold for most of yesterday, will be better about responding going forward
22 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Thanks Austria, well said and I second those comments
24 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1901: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): HI guys. Pausing for one day. The phase will be reset because I got to this pause request a little late.
25 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1901: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused and reset
01 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1902: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Paused for two days
03 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1902: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused.
06 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Hi everyone. Quick pause here. Should unpause it before I go to sleep tonight (~12 hours). Will not be resetting the phase given the short pause and length of time left.
07 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): I went to sleep later than expected.
08 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Hi everyone. A player has triggered their site emergency pause. This is a site feature, not a tournament feature, so this will be paused up to a week, as our player deals with their emergency.
09 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Hi all. This will be unpaused in ~12 hours.
11 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Oh shoot.
11 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1903: When you convince yourself you're good enough for the Masters, and then draw Germany in the first round: http://i.imgur.com/rT40Itl.gif
11 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Preach, brother.

https://imgur.com/gallery/TBaIoi5
11 Dec 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: Given this is Diplomacy, I'd be nervous about drawing any nation in any round :P
11 Dec 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: Given these are the professional tournaments, I'd be nervous just to play the game.
12 Dec 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Given that I put seeds 1,2,3,4,5,48 and 49 in the game, I wouldn't expect anything different.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12 Dec 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: So it comes to my hour to exit the stage. Though not my finest performance, I can say that I at least came to my end with my boots on. As I consider it a matter of professional courtesy, this will be my final comment until the game's conclusion. It has been an honor and pleasure to cross sabres with each and every one of you, and I genuinely hope to sit at a table with you all again. And I promise to bring renewed challenge with a wink and a grin.

Sláinte!
19 Dec 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Der krieg ist verloren. Good game all and best of luck in the tournament
22 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1905: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Pausing this for the week for Christmas. I hope everyone has a happy and stress-free holiday season.
22 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1905: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): I will be unpausing on the 29th. England, if you keep your vote on "ready", it will process to the next phase pretty much the second I unpause, just so you're aware.
30 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1905: Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused. Sorry I was a day late. Got stuck traveling yesterday. Hopefully everyone enjoyed their break. Round 3 games will be starting in about a week!
30 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1905: Gold was right, readying my lack of a retreat was a bad idea. Plenty to talk about this turn!

I'll kick off the festivities with a formal declaration of war against Russia.

I respect his talent and sportsmanship and would gladly ally with him in another game. He did suggest a bounce in the Baltic, but it was late in the phase when he should have known I was sleeping and he went through with it after I didn't reply. Combined with his defensively unnecessary advances to StP, Pru, Rum, I am convinced this is a solo attempt and cannot ignore the threat any longer. The support hold on Mun and withdrawal from Tri were merely political stunts to create plausible deniability.

France, I can't say I'm thrilled about your attack on Mun and move to Pic, but you are forgiven. I hope you can forgive my ill-advised, single-phase Spring 04 offensive. We now have a common foe.
30 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1905: Single year 1904 offensive, rather. Forgot some details after the pause.
30 Dec 19 UTC Spring, 1905: OK so now that we are both on the same team (again) let's plan for the defense of Mun and the establishment of a stalemate line.

BTW, I have tried to get Italy on board, but GoL is creating a headache. What does he say to you?

Pic will withdraw and MAO will as well. We need to work this out.
08 Jan 20 UTC Spring, 1906: Since our intentions are all now revealed by the actions we have done, I'm going to talk freely here. Right now the outcome of the game is either a draw, or a solo by Russia.

If Russia is defeated, it wouldn't look good as everyone then has a 25% of taking the solo right after if that was our plan, and chances are, the solo won't go to you.

As such, I say we all draw now. Drawing with 5 people, 6 people or even 7 people is no different than drawing with 2 in this matchup. Only thing is that the remainder gets bragging rights that they entered the draw.

Even so, a stalemate line is already form from Kiel to Ven. If everything goes well, we can do a forced draw and end this game that does not need to go for months and months.
08 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Works for me.
08 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: I am fine drawing as well, although I feel that Italy misses the point when he says drawing with 5, 6 or 7 makes no difference.

That entire logic could be applied to Spring 1901 as well : "Let's draw here, it doesn't make a difference if we draw with two or seven. And after one is out, we all have 16,66% of drawing, so no one wants that either". Why not stop playing from the start then?

The only thing where Italy is right in my opinion is that the game is stalemated in a minus 18 perspective, and that no one will solo from here. And that is what is most important. So I am fine drawing if you all are.
08 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: My draw vote is in. Just for the sake of completeness, I wanted to note though that if we draw, I prefer to draw with as few players as possible. 2 is better than 3, 3 is better than 4, 4 is better than 5. If other players feel the same way, I am ready to continue to play, also depending on what you find realistic.
08 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Ah, but would you consider 5 better than 7? :P It's up to France, now, I suppose
08 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Clever thinking and I fully agree considering that anything is better than drawing with 7 :-)
08 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: I disagree in this case :)
08 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: So how is this scored? I know a solo is good, but how is a 6 way vs a 7 way vs a 3 way scored?
09 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: I apologize for breaking silence, but according to the Masters Tournament rules, a player earns a singular point for a solo. All other conclusions to a game earn zero points. So, a 7 player draw earns all 7 players the same amount of points as a 2 player draw; zero. In the event of a tie for overall points at the end of the Tournament, the tie breaker will be determined by the number of board tops earned by those players.

For example, were all players to draw this game now, each player would earn zero points. Russia would earn a "Board Top" point for having the most SC's, which would only matter if the Russian player were to go on and be in a tie for most game points in the Tournament.

I hope this is helpful.
09 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: That is the tournament scorinf rule. And then you still have scoring in general on webdip where DSS applies, and where drawing with less is better than drawing with more.
10 Jan 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: My draw vote goes back up after the phase processes.
12 Jan 20 UTC Good game all. Strong set of players here!
12 Jan 20 UTC Good game to all! It is odd that I'm the only double digit points here.
12 Jan 20 UTC Nah, bro, I'm only at triple digits and that's done nothing for me :P You're in based on skill, so a low point count just means you play more games. Good game, all, I'm sorry I missed out on the final draw :P
14 Jan 20 UTC Tournament Director: (goldfinger0303): I'm surprised this drew. I thought Russia could do it. He had Munich whenever he wanted it, and wasn't going to lose position in the south anytime soon.
16 Jan 20 UTC Not sure I agree. France, Italy and England were lined up against me : 20 vs 14 and possibly 16 vs 14 on the stalemate line. If I would have moved for the solo, I would have blocked Den-Swe and Ven-Tri in Spring 1906.

Those moves were in, but I changed them because France said to move against Italy if I did.

And if I had kept those moves, I would have been at 16 and in a position to take Gre, but England's units would not have moved Den-Swe, Kie-Den and Ruh-Kie. Mun would have been guarded by armies in Kie, Den and Bur, and I would not have been able to take the last 18th center.

In 1907, I also did not see myself getting to 17 without one of the three others attacking the other. All there was left, was to try to pressure France to attack Italy, including by voting draw myself, but he eventually drew.

Perhaps I drew too early. Given that I failed to solo, I must have done something wrong in any instance :-)
16 Jan 20 UTC *I would have blocked ... in Autumn 1906

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Russia
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
England
90kicvesb (3761 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
France
The Czech (42278 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Italy
Flamebere (97 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Germany
MylesP14 (360 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
Yigg (2456 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
SirThursday (907 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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