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Private ODC 2019 - R2 G6
2 days /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1910, Builds
Classic, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes, Wait for orders
1 excused missed turn
England, France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Turkey, Russia
19 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: I wouldn’t mind ;-)
19 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Count me in.
Wait, are we redistributing the powers?
19 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Yes, apparently that was the secret plan all along. Russia and I would work together to feed centers to Italy.

To Russia: You had one job ...
20 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: It's the new, global economy. France to Italy, via S:t Petersburg.
20 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Russia, the eternal chaos monkey
21 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: To get my center feeding via Russia over and done with, I have readied up. I would enjoy ending this game around this and not next Xmas...
22 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Let me enter my build order real quick. Oh wait, I don't get one since Russia cleverly took one of my centers. Well played, Russia. Go ahead and enter your build order so we can get moving.
22 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: I’ve readied up too.
22 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: :)
22 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Seriously, Italy?
22 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: I know, I know.
Breaking the habit of this game to let every phase go past deadline and even process before deadline might be shocking for many of you, but it's just how I happen to be.
22 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Orders have been entered:
UKR-SEV (S by MOS hopefully)

We need to cut S of AEG and one of the moves has to work.
23 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Oops!
23 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: LOL!
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Germany might be the most passive-aggressive player I've ever met. Tried to blame his stab on me, and now he has muted me while we were in talks about working together again. I didn't buy his sincerity in these talks, which he must have picked up on. What a snowflake ...
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Sorry- I have checked- I don’t and have never had you on mute. I would be happy for the mods to confirm who muted who - I have lots of messages to you that I get the automated message on saying you have muted me. How about you keep your lies for private press!
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Yep - confirmed again just now - England still has me on mute ;)
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Actually, I owe apologies here. I apparently did have Germany on mute, though it was totally accidental. I must have tapped it on my phone, but I was also getting messages that my messages could not be sent to him because he had me on mute. Perhaps that is a consequence of me having him on mute.
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Nevermind. Even with him off mute I'm still getting the message. I have to be on mute on his end.
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Ignore that. I needed to scroll down. Sheesh ...
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Okay everyone, I think I'm going insane here. I taken Germany off of mute and then suddenly Italy is on mute. I took him off of mute and Germany is back on it. And then Italy is back on it. I will take someone off of mute and check another country and then when I come back that person is on mute again.

I'm sorry for so many messages, but I really want people to know there is no intention on muting going on on my side. I feel like there's some sort of a glitch at work or something.
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Right now it is showing Italy is muted and I'm unable to change it and make it stick.
24 Nov 19 UTC Spring, 1908: I have sent a message to the moderators to look into it.
24 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Look. The CPA has been locked in for ages. They’re just being cute and annoying. This game is done and a colossal waste of everyone’s time. Has been for weeks
24 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: I agree, but it doesn't make the mute thing any less annoying.
Tue 26 Nov UTC Autumn, 1908: Thanks for playing France.
Thu 28 Nov UTC Autumn, 1908: @ France: gg

Too bad it didn't work out for us to connect earlier in the game. We could have been fierce.
Thu 28 Nov UTC Autumn, 1908: GG everyone. Well done Germany for turning on me right after my stab and then choosing the right moment to get England and the upper hand. Sorry England - I chose the wrong partner when following my initial game plan. Well done Italy in getting out in the Atlantic and having a good shot at dominating this game. I am sorry for being out of what feels like a very fluid and chaotic game, but I will not miss the many many many pauses which ruined a large part of my enjoyment. Good luck everyone!
Sat 30 Nov UTC Spring, 1909: Aaw, you're just too kind
Mon 02 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: My draw vote is in
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Ok, that was absurd. How is it that every time it’s Italy that gets the build?
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Because Austria is a docile little pet. And being outnumbered and surrounded by his partner doesn't seem to bother him. I've never seen anything like this turn into a solo before...
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Thanks for playing Russia!
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: @ Russia: GG!
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Did England just confess being the force behind driving the wedge between Austria and me?
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Hmm. Not sure how you parsed that conclusion out. My statement:

A) "Austria is a docile little pet" Translation: Austria seems fine with schemes that allow you to benefit while he stagnates.
B) "Being outnumbered and surrounded by his partner" Translation: Austria is outnumbered and surrounded by his partner.
C) "I've never seen anything like this turn into a solo before" Translation: I'm sarcastically pointing out that Italy is setting himself up for a late-game stab of Austria to pull a solo.

Where was the part about admitting to driving a wedge?
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: And ... what would be wrong with driving a wedge, anyway? Has snowflake culture infiltrated the world of Diplomacy?
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Thank you for your opinion, I understand that you need to exaggerate the threat I represent to be able to eliminate the competition.

I think we all can agree that the state of the game is not only the scoreboard but also the position of the pieces. My analysis is that your position is the strongest on the board, followed by Austria's. How come? You have an open highway into Russia, you don't have any enemies besides me and your ally have their back totally open. Austria's last spring moves proves that I am all dependent on their and my other neighbour's good will to survive or at least not go down three or four SC:s.

So I completely understand you need to get people to focus on my SC count rather than your successful position. I agree I help you with that quite a bit this last turn - believe me, I did never appreciate the outcome, it surprised me completely that I would end up with a build rather than lose four. And I'm sure I will be dead soon if you all decide to take me out, much sooner than you would be if we all teamed up to take you out. That's how delicate my "lead" is.

Besides that, I don't need a solo. I'm all good with a shared win or if that can't be arranged, that my ally will win.

As I have already said, my draw vote is set. If you are concerned with the risk of me running away with it, you can always join in and we'll get this over with, right away.
Wed 04 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Which part was an exaggeration? The part where you gain while Austria stagnates? I suppose I exaggerated when I wrote that you surrounded him, as you are technically only to his left, right, and underneath of him. Maybe it was an exaggeration to say that, often, when a player surrounds another and doesn't respect parity of growth, it is a solo reach ... except I've seen it many times.

That said - yes I do have a nice position. It came from your betrayal of Germany, which is fine. The game involves betrayals and deception, or else we should play Candy Land. But to say I don't have any enemies is to disregard Austria. After all, if he is your ally, and you are my enemy, then the official enemy count is two.

But as you point out, my ally's back is totally open, so I'm not sure how my nice position stacks up if Germany crumbles, which lessens the value of it.

The only question I have is this one:

You originally courted me, ready to betray Germany, because you said that it presented better opportunities for us both to grow, whereas Germany would get in your way as an ally.

Now you are saying you are perfectly fine with a draw and that your draw vote has been set for a couple of seasons now.

So which is it? Were you content with the number of centers you would have received at the time you claim to have submitted your draw vote (assuming we all submitted ours)? Or did you need Germany gone from your partnership so that you had further room to expand? Or is the whole "I submitted my draw vote already" just a way to placate Austria until you are in position to attack him from three sides?
Thu 05 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Ah, we're playing "who's gonna post the longest wall of text"?
Sure, I can play that game even if I don't really enjoy it. In my experience the player that need most text to present their point often proves to be the least reliable.
At least it will save me time when writing the EOG statement, as a lot of it will be published in advance.

I'll start with your question.

Answer: Things change.

When I asked you to join in the 3WD instead of G, I thought you would be the ideal partner, true. Promising to finish off Germany quickly and end this eternal game perhaps before the holidays. We had it all figured and agreed upon - who would get which centers and everything (AEI 12-11-11). You payed back my favor of giving you two builds, by turning against me.
Why would I clinge to the AEI deal after you betrayed me? Circumstances change and of course I adapt.

Over to your exaggerations.

How have Austria stagnated? In my book they had two builds last winter and Germany and Turkey would have provided them with at least two more this year. Are you talking history? I don't understand how anything else but the now and the future would matter. Well, we can talk about the "surrounded" instead if you want. I'm sure Austria tremble at the sight of the two Italian fleets in the South - they can really do extreme damage to their centers. And the two units in StP and Mos that is guarding three centers, they had as mission to protect StP from Russia and you eventually. Hardly any attack potential.
Ah, you didn't mean "surrounded by units that could be a threat to Austria", only that the color green is dominant in Russia because the size of the StP and Mos territories cover half the map!? Sorry for misunderstanding, it didn't sound that way the way you put it...

Actually I believe it was a quite balanced distribution, task wise - Austria had the units they needed to move on Turkey and Germany eventually, I had the units I needed to fight in the West. No units wasted for defense or threatening each other, I would say rather optimized in fact. Austria could probably have ended on Balkan+Turkey+Ber+Mun (12) while I perhaps could get Iberia+Mar+Russia (11). Perfectly fine with me, just like I said to you originally.

My question to you is how would you design a different AI alliance from the current situation?
Fri 06 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: Well, I might have let my ally build at least one fleet sometime in the last nine years ... If I had really wanted him to be able to defend all three sides of attack.
Fri 06 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: I was hoping for something more elaborated, but thanks for the advice.
Fri 06 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: I took this into consideration:

Ah, we're playing "who's gonna post the longest wall of text"?
Fri 06 Dec UTC Autumn, 1909: I like how you think
Sun 08 Dec UTC Spring, 1910: My draw vote is still in
Sun 08 Dec UTC Spring, 1910: If you're so willing to draw ... Then why won't you admit that you're not?
Mon 09 Dec UTC Spring, 1910: Translation please
Mon 09 Dec UTC Spring, 1910: I'm just messing with you.
Thu 03 PM UTC Last minutes for your chances to vote draw, for an outcome of the game that will reflect fairness and decency #ItalyToTheFinals #EverythingElseIsOutrageous #itWillSoonBeTooLate
Thu 06 PM UTC Disappointing

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Anon England
Votes: (any draw votes are hidden)
Bet: 5 D, worth: 10 D
8 supply-centers, 7 units
Anon Germany
Votes: (any draw votes are hidden)
Bet: 5 D, worth: 10 D
8 supply-centers, 7 units
Anon Austria
Votes: (any draw votes are hidden)
Bet: 5 D, worth: 10 D
8 supply-centers, 6 units
Anon Italy
Votes: (any draw votes are hidden)
Bet: 5 D, worth: 6 D
6 supply-centers, 9 units
Anon Turkey
Votes: (any draw votes are hidden)
Bet: 5 D, worth: 3 D
4 supply-centers, 3 units
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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